you believe it because a blogger said so or is it simply a matter of faith?
random thoughts Send a noteboard - 03/05/2011 05:26:53 PM
Because your link it really just random speculation. I think it would make more sense that they first learned his nick name then had to use fieldwork to find other sources for his real name. But of course that doesn't fit into the neat reality liberals have built for themselves so they just create a new one.
I don't know that they got this information form water boarding KSM but it is more likely than they fairytale your blogger through together where he held out until the questioners starting being nice and then he gave up the name. Wishing something was true doesn't make it true, sorry. I do understand how this issue hurts the delicate liberal mindset though. Since liberals tend to accept their believe systems as fact things that challenge those belief systems are often hard to accept and here we have two giant liberal truths being challenged. It is probably to much to ask a liberal to open his mind to the twin possibilities that harsh interrogation and Bush both played key roles in what they are heralding as proof that Obama will does posses leadership skills despite all the evidence to the contrary.
I don't know that they got this information form water boarding KSM but it is more likely than they fairytale your blogger through together where he held out until the questioners starting being nice and then he gave up the name. Wishing something was true doesn't make it true, sorry. I do understand how this issue hurts the delicate liberal mindset though. Since liberals tend to accept their believe systems as fact things that challenge those belief systems are often hard to accept and here we have two giant liberal truths being challenged. It is probably to much to ask a liberal to open his mind to the twin possibilities that harsh interrogation and Bush both played key roles in what they are heralding as proof that Obama will does posses leadership skills despite all the evidence to the contrary.
As per ABC News - waterboarding worked in the locating/killing OBL.....
02/05/2011 07:06:12 PM
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Many other violent methods would have worked as well, I'm sure.
02/05/2011 07:41:58 PM
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I have always been 100% okay with "torturing" the 4 terrorists via waterboarding.....
02/05/2011 08:07:56 PM
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Yeah... but you think those 4 were the only ones? *NM*
02/05/2011 08:11:48 PM
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I have no evidence/reason to think the government is lying about waterboarding.
02/05/2011 08:18:34 PM
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Nah, they probably got that tidbit withholding their daily Doritos ration.
02/05/2011 08:28:49 PM
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Unless you can provide an actual link, this is just speculation by commentators. *NM*
02/05/2011 09:48:55 PM
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I beleive if they hadn't torture them, we would've got the info much earlier
02/05/2011 10:39:02 PM
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You have ifs and maybes, I have the facts and what happened. Waterboarding won this round.
03/05/2011 04:07:24 AM
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post your facts if you have them. so far you have offered nothing.... *NM*
03/05/2011 04:16:03 PM
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you believe it because a blogger said so or is it simply a matter of faith?
03/05/2011 05:26:53 PM
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Re: you believe it because a blogger said so or is it simply a matter of faith?
03/05/2011 08:12:37 PM
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Well, according to Rumsfeld, waterboarding connection is bullshit.
03/05/2011 01:07:58 AM
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Having a Pakistani government not in complicity with AQ would be better than waterboarding. *NM*
03/05/2011 02:13:56 PM
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it's as much of a link as the breakfast you had 6 years ago making you crash your car today
03/05/2011 04:18:29 PM
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Re: it's as much of a link as the breakfast you had 6 years ago making you crash your car today
06/05/2011 12:43:26 PM
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torture was against our beliefs the first 225 years of our existence....
06/05/2011 04:16:19 PM
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