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Er, yes? beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 03/05/2011 01:10:37 AM
I'm not saying I have proof, but you're saying that you'd be surprised if it turned out that Bush-era prisoners were secretly waterboarded?

After all, that administration went to GREAT pains trying to justify- both morally and legally- the practice.

My point was that if you go "Oh, it's ok to torture THESE guys, but no one else," it's pretty easy to make that decision again, for others.
I amuse myself.
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As per ABC News - waterboarding worked in the locating/killing OBL..... trzaska2000 - 02/05/2011 07:06:12 PM 796 Views
Many other violent methods would have worked as well, I'm sure. nossy - 02/05/2011 07:41:58 PM 522 Views
That's actually the big issue, in my view beetnemesis - 02/05/2011 07:48:06 PM 460 Views
I have always been 100% okay with "torturing" the 4 terrorists via waterboarding..... trzaska2000 - 02/05/2011 08:07:56 PM 488 Views
Yeah... but you think those 4 were the only ones? *NM* beetnemesis - 02/05/2011 08:11:48 PM 212 Views
I have no evidence/reason to think the government is lying about waterboarding. trzaska2000 - 02/05/2011 08:18:34 PM 454 Views
Are you able to ask that w/o any sarcasm? nossy - 02/05/2011 09:29:41 PM 465 Views
Er, yes? beetnemesis - 03/05/2011 01:10:37 AM 474 Views
Of course torture sometimes works. beetnemesis - 02/05/2011 07:45:01 PM 471 Views
Ends, means, yadda, yadda, yadda. *NM* Dannymac - 02/05/2011 08:09:13 PM 199 Views
Nah, they probably got that tidbit withholding their daily Doritos ration. TaskmasterJack - 02/05/2011 08:28:49 PM 496 Views
Unless you can provide an actual link, this is just speculation by commentators. *NM* Variant - 02/05/2011 09:48:55 PM 226 Views
I beleive if they hadn't torture them, we would've got the info much earlier Skeeve the Great - 02/05/2011 10:39:02 PM 756 Views
You have ifs and maybes, I have the facts and what happened. Waterboarding won this round. trzaska2000 - 03/05/2011 04:07:24 AM 489 Views
You can wish. Waterboarding did nothing to help. *NM* Skeeve the Great - 03/05/2011 07:36:40 AM 222 Views
Quotes about so-called "waterboarding help" Skeeve the Great - 03/05/2011 04:00:13 PM 488 Views
post your facts if you have them. so far you have offered nothing.... *NM* moondog - 03/05/2011 04:16:03 PM 222 Views
you believe it because a blogger said so or is it simply a matter of faith? random thoughts - 03/05/2011 05:26:53 PM 551 Views
Re: you believe it because a blogger said so or is it simply a matter of faith? Skeeve the Great - 03/05/2011 08:12:37 PM 634 Views
Leon Panette disagrees with you random thoughts - 06/05/2011 04:12:24 PM 566 Views
Epic. Dragonsoul - 02/05/2011 10:46:39 PM 510 Views
Well, according to Rumsfeld, waterboarding connection is bullshit. Skeeve the Great - 03/05/2011 01:07:58 AM 734 Views
Having a Pakistani government not in complicity with AQ would be better than waterboarding. *NM* Macharius - 03/05/2011 02:13:56 PM 199 Views
Any actual facts on this yet? snoopcester - 03/05/2011 04:04:38 PM 455 Views
it's as much of a link as the breakfast you had 6 years ago making you crash your car today moondog - 03/05/2011 04:18:29 PM 444 Views
Re: it's as much of a link as the breakfast you had 6 years ago making you crash your car today dart_board - 06/05/2011 12:43:26 PM 552 Views
torture was against our beliefs the first 225 years of our existence.... moondog - 06/05/2011 04:16:19 PM 436 Views
horseshit random thoughts - 06/05/2011 04:14:57 PM 436 Views
come on you know torture doesn't work. The experts said so *NM* random thoughts - 03/05/2011 05:13:12 PM 214 Views
Water boarding is not torture dart_board - 06/05/2011 12:41:06 PM 414 Views
Re: Water boarding is not torture Skeeve the Great - 06/05/2011 06:25:33 PM 484 Views
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