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Potentially either, or a combination of the two. Joel Send a noteboard - 30/04/2011 02:36:50 PM
IS it that you think the mass estimates are actually off or that they are right and we just can't see the otherwise normal matter? Because they're kinda separate for the purpose of producing supporting evidence.

What bothers me is that there seem to be several possible but largely unexplored alternatives to "well, that's dark matter irrefutably proven then". I'm reminded of that Laplace line paraphrased as extraordinary claims requiring extraordinary evidence; positing not just neutrinos but an entire new class of matter strikes me as something requiring a bit more evidence than one anomaly can provide. Particularly given many members of the group pressing that claim reject far older and less controversial claims possessing far more evidence.... :P
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Exciting video about the universe - 28/04/2011 10:14:55 AM 1175 Views
Cool, and true *NM* - 28/04/2011 11:46:29 AM 359 Views
I still think dark matter's just non-luminous matter without a convenient light source to reflect. - 28/04/2011 10:34:21 PM 887 Views
We've just about ruled out the idea that dark matter is just non-luminous "ordinary" matter. - 28/04/2011 11:44:34 PM 826 Views
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Re: I'm aware of the Bullet Cluster, though admittedly not much more than that. - 30/04/2011 08:56:35 PM 697 Views
Re: I'm aware of the Bullet Cluster, though admittedly not much more than that. - 02/05/2011 01:28:30 AM 731 Views
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Re: There's such a thing as knowing when you're licked, and I believe I am. - 24/05/2011 09:32:27 PM 778 Views
The Pati-Salam model was the one I had in mind. - 24/05/2011 10:34:04 PM 720 Views
Re: The Pati-Salam model was the one I had in mind. - 24/05/2011 11:08:01 PM 939 Views
Re: The Pati-Salam model was the one I had in mind. - 25/05/2011 01:27:10 AM 748 Views
Re: The Pati-Salam model was the one I had in mind. - 31/05/2011 09:16:18 AM 814 Views
Also, re: lensing from ordinary matter: - 29/04/2011 05:18:47 AM 766 Views
This seems like another example of what confuses the issue. - 30/04/2011 05:25:04 PM 886 Views
Re: This seems like another example of what confuses the issue. - 30/04/2011 08:56:40 PM 851 Views
That discussion seems to reduce to "as little new and exotic physics as possible". - 02/05/2011 01:29:03 AM 846 Views
Re: I still think... (apparently, there is a 100 character limit on subjects, and yours was 99) - 28/04/2011 11:57:15 PM 1068 Views
Seems to happen to me a lot; sorry. - 29/04/2011 12:56:14 AM 747 Views
None of this reflects on the actual facts of dark matter. - 29/04/2011 01:32:52 AM 743 Views
I concede my grasp (or grope) is a somewhat superficial laymans, yes. - 30/04/2011 04:30:28 PM 870 Views
Re: I concede my grasp (or grope) is a somewhat superficial laymans, yes. - 30/04/2011 08:56:44 PM 696 Views
Re: I concede my grasp (or grope) is a somewhat superficial laymans, yes. - 02/05/2011 01:28:58 AM 1221 Views
Re: I concede my grasp (or grope) is a somewhat superficial laymans, yes. - 04/05/2011 04:18:27 AM 732 Views
I don't object to changing my mind, but can take more convincing than I really should. - 07/05/2011 02:05:09 AM 944 Views
Re: I don't object to changing my mind, but can take more convincing than I really should. - 09/05/2011 11:32:17 PM 857 Views
Might help if you clarified where your skepticism is at - 29/04/2011 02:32:07 AM 708 Views
Potentially either, or a combination of the two. - 30/04/2011 02:36:50 PM 779 Views

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