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The whole thing was rather surreal. Joel Send a noteboard - 24/04/2011 05:04:32 AM
*notified the PolitBuro of the reactionary traitor to the revolution*

You'd have thought Chrysler going bankrupt AGAIN despite dumping billions in taxpayer money on to get them out of bankruptcy in each of the last two decades would have told us doing it one more time for the AND GM wouldn't work. I wish I could bankrupt myself secure in the knowledge that the government would just hand me a bunch of free money to teach me a lesson (instead of rewriting personal bankruptcy laws to largely eliminate debt relief and make people with no money spend more of it if they file for bankruptcy). As I said of the private healthcare mandate, what we HAD was closer to socialism than this pig in a poke is.


Well, I supported watching it crash and burn mostly because comments like "Too big to Fail" strike me more as a challenge, same as "The world's be around for 4 billion years, do you really think mankind can destroy it?" or "Man was not meant to fly"

For the moment anyway the big hit to GM is coming at least in part because of the hit in consumer confidence deriving from the Volt apparently being more flammable than the vehicles its designed to replace that operate on the principle of burning highly flammable fuels. Which depending on how the investigation goes is either going to be ironic the way the unsinkable Titanic was ironic or ironic the way Asbestos, which saved many people from burning to death and cut heating bills, killed so many people with cancer. Anyway, I would say our tactic of trying to fix the car industry problem by throwing money at it was a really bad idea, but throwing money at problems has been something of a proud American tradition and I am a big believer in preserving our cultural traditions and heritage.

The supposedly far left (for America) President offers billions of taxpayer dollars to a symbol of American industrial power. Despite bankruptcy, they make counter with an offer of the terms on which they'll accept a free money that is their only hope. Those who insist government doesn't give business enough taxpayer money call the whole thing socialism. Most bizarre moment? Right wing Senator and laissez-faire acolyte Senator Lamar Alexander drafting legislation to give every US taxpayer some of the GM and Chrysler stock, which is the closest thing I can imagine to nationalizing the companies. Corporate welfare is only socialism in this sense, which is a dream for those who see government as a servant of business alone, but anathema to supporters of legitimate socialism.

As for "too big to fail", that's part of the same philosophy, the one that said, "what was good for the country was good for General Motors and vice versa". I'm conflicted about letting it fail. The part of me concerned about the increasing degree to which America produces nothing but debt and little Americans is alarmed at the prospect of a non-existent US auto industry, particularly when the demise is, like the general demise of American manufacturing, laid solely on the shoulders of unemployed union workers who fought tooth and nail to stop US businesses exporting their jobs to countries with no human rights. The part of me who watched the nation respond to melting ice caps and dependence on oil from countries who sponsor terrorism against us by buying SUVs thinks the culture of consumption, luxury and planned obsolescence is embedded nowhere as deeply as Detroit and only drastic need will force production changes that became standard decades ago in Japan and Germany. The Big Three can keep telling us we want huge powerful gas guzzlers, but we no longer have the economic means to believe it, so it's time they had management that produced saleable cars instead of marketing fantasies.

Either way, however, throwing money into a money pit doesn't produce anything but more debt.
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