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I think it is for some people. snoopcester Send a noteboard - 19/04/2011 03:55:45 PM
And I don't think it is exactly rocket science to work out what type of information is on the long form and not on the short form and hence work out pretty much what it is he's hiding. That no one seems to be asking to see specific details but is dealing in general "there must/ might be something" shows they've not done that... and in my opinion don't deserve to be taken seriously.

People can't even show that it is something political, which for me shows just how stupid the whole fuss is. They might as well demand the right to see him naked and perform a full cavity search on the grounds you never know what he's hiding...

People don't have a RIGHT to see our presidential candidates' tax returns, but they show them anyway to alleviate any suspicion of foul play.


And what foul play might his birth certificate show?

I think only an ardent Obama supporter could disagree.


Or those who believe in the individuals right to privacy.
Or various other options.
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WTF arizona? moondog - 15/04/2011 04:28:19 PM 2020 Views
I think it's more payback than anything else, what exactly are you objecting to anyway? Isaac - 15/04/2011 04:46:17 PM 930 Views
Yeah, I'm going "wait, they didn't have to do that yet?" here as well. Legolas - 15/04/2011 08:40:44 PM 838 Views
It is a bit of an oversight not to have that Isaac - 15/04/2011 09:41:40 PM 1034 Views
that's because they're morons. LadyLorraine - 16/04/2011 03:36:54 AM 950 Views
Re: that's because they're morons. Isaac - 16/04/2011 04:27:04 AM 814 Views
I wouldn't ACTUALLY hunt boars with a boar spear, but that's because I'm too little LadyLorraine - 16/04/2011 04:44:14 AM 989 Views
I think everyone's too little Isaac - 16/04/2011 02:20:29 PM 983 Views
it's the spirit, not the letter, of the law that i have a problem with moondog - 15/04/2011 10:19:27 PM 900 Views
Surprisingly, many politicians are mean-spirited Isaac - 16/04/2011 02:31:37 AM 893 Views
if any of those examples were legislated by a state house, you'd have a stronger argument.... moondog - 16/04/2011 07:23:49 AM 842 Views
I believe I gave you state examples already Isaac - 16/04/2011 01:55:37 PM 774 Views
it's moot at this point, but.... moondog - 19/04/2011 05:31:29 AM 854 Views
I can't believe this thread is still going... Isaac - 20/04/2011 12:58:52 AM 945 Views
I call shenanigans on Seel Stephen - 15/04/2011 04:48:48 PM 882 Views
really becasue Obama has already produced enough documents to clear this bar random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:04:39 AM 881 Views
The article is wrong on one key point. Obama has not produced a birth certificate random thoughts - 15/04/2011 04:50:21 PM 969 Views
Yes he has. Don't act like a fool. Tom - 15/04/2011 05:02:58 PM 1044 Views
sorry but it is not the same so don't act like a fool random thoughts - 15/04/2011 06:04:19 PM 990 Views
It's clear that he was born in the US. Tom - 15/04/2011 06:54:28 PM 957 Views
Care to point out where you believe I was defending them? random thoughts - 15/04/2011 07:37:39 PM 909 Views
You say that Obama hasn't produced a birth certificate, when he has. Tom - 15/04/2011 07:47:54 PM 849 Views
Re: sorry but it is not the same so don't act like a fool Skeeve the Great - 15/04/2011 10:45:03 PM 817 Views
Why is it racist? random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:49:02 AM 835 Views
What exactly is the difference between certificates? LadyLorraine - 16/04/2011 12:13:04 AM 925 Views
One is the origianl document and one is a certificate created when it is requested. random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:44:27 AM 913 Views
Then you need be be more clear because that is not what you said. LadyLorraine - 17/04/2011 03:14:03 AM 922 Views
OK I will try to be clearer random thoughts - 18/04/2011 03:03:56 AM 864 Views
Why should he show it? everynametaken - 16/04/2011 11:38:53 PM 855 Views
I personally have no problem with him not showing it random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:38:42 AM 970 Views
Presumably you want his certificate of stillbirth as well? Tim - 16/04/2011 12:59:22 PM 875 Views
thanks for your contribution. They are all important no matter how small *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:50:55 AM 468 Views
thanks for your contribution. They are all important no matter how small *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:50:56 AM 427 Views
I wish the birthers would stop waste everyone's time and focus on actual policies of Obama's. Tom - 15/04/2011 04:59:01 PM 995 Views
Actually nossy - 15/04/2011 06:12:41 PM 948 Views
This LadyLorraine - 15/04/2011 11:59:47 PM 800 Views
He already has Roland00 - 16/04/2011 07:41:43 AM 928 Views
I'm not referring to Obama. Just anyone who wants to be anyone in the future. *NM* nossy - 16/04/2011 02:01:25 PM 407 Views
Don't we already do this? The_Muted_Grimaud - 15/04/2011 06:24:29 PM 891 Views
actually there isn't random thoughts - 15/04/2011 07:43:47 PM 961 Views
He did produce his Certificate of Live Birth and was approved to run for President. Case closed. everynametaken - 16/04/2011 11:42:05 PM 930 Views
do you have link for that? *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:17:51 AM 447 Views
In all fairness to the discussion I do not. everynametaken - 19/04/2011 04:24:30 AM 893 Views
It was a certificaTION of live birth and not a certificate MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 03:51:29 PM 1039 Views
Which is a form of birth certificate Floffe - 20/04/2011 08:45:41 AM 958 Views
Meh, who cares? ßelals Girl - 15/04/2011 07:31:22 PM 942 Views
we're the 14 year old boy of the U.S. *NM* Jessie - 16/04/2011 03:37:51 AM 422 Views
Re: I actually find the whole thing hilarious, and I hope it continues. Gaps - 16/04/2011 01:33:34 AM 943 Views
What's the problem? Show your birth certficate, problem solved. *NM* trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 03:32:37 AM 449 Views
problem was solved awhile ago when he produced his birth certificate. what are you holding onto? *NM* moondog - 16/04/2011 07:29:39 AM 456 Views
Perhaps he's responding to the actual post, and not talking about Obama this time? *NM* Tim - 16/04/2011 12:56:50 PM 422 Views
As per the Constitution, Congress already verifies eligibility. Of each President. TaskmasterJack - 16/04/2011 03:36:06 PM 873 Views
Did you mean to reply to me or to the main post? *NM* Tim - 16/04/2011 03:44:38 PM 438 Views
You. Well, the trzaska subthread in general. Although it applies to the overall topic equally. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 16/04/2011 03:53:38 PM 414 Views
Which is why I would think even if this law passes it will be tossed as it should. everynametaken - 16/04/2011 11:44:50 PM 867 Views
staes control who can be on their ballot *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:18:24 AM 411 Views
staes control who can be on their ballot *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:18:24 AM 449 Views
Supposedly the FEC only has jurisdiction over matters of campaign finance. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 17/04/2011 03:24:39 AM 508 Views
as per you pulled that out of your ass random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:16:15 AM 855 Views
Actually it wasn't my ass, it was an anti-Obama political blogging site's ass. TaskmasterJack - 17/04/2011 03:56:35 AM 925 Views
not only is no one in charge of making sure the president meets all the qualifications random thoughts - 18/04/2011 02:51:16 AM 906 Views
To make things even more fun in this thread... Larry - 18/04/2011 03:50:43 AM 909 Views
Re: To make things even more fun in this thread... moondog - 19/04/2011 04:24:05 AM 813 Views
That wasn't the point Larry - 21/04/2011 05:48:04 AM 874 Views
I am not a birther, but WTF makes you a nutjob for this? MalkierKnight - 18/04/2011 08:40:15 AM 1075 Views
read above, he has. *NM* LadyLorraine - 18/04/2011 02:47:25 PM 429 Views
Provided a birth certificate? MalkierKnight - 18/04/2011 02:51:56 PM 1285 Views
Why is a Certification of Live Birth insufficient? Aeryn - 18/04/2011 08:43:34 PM 945 Views
because it's easier to push a non-issue than it is to work on something constructive i guess.... moondog - 19/04/2011 04:27:31 AM 802 Views
No, actually MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 05:18:52 AM 992 Views
Re: No, actually MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 05:19:51 AM 980 Views
Since when is religion hereditary? Aeryn - 19/04/2011 02:57:30 PM 988 Views
Re: Since when is religion hereditary? MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 03:10:27 PM 935 Views
Re: Since when is religion hereditary? snoopcester - 19/04/2011 03:32:10 PM 1041 Views
I don't think it's as strong a claim as you make it out to be MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 03:39:01 PM 1131 Views
I think it is for some people. snoopcester - 19/04/2011 03:55:45 PM 817 Views
how many previous presidents have had to prove their place of birth? moondog - 19/04/2011 04:34:42 PM 874 Views
with how many has it been in doubt? *NM* random thoughts - 19/04/2011 05:08:18 PM 459 Views
why doubt this one beyond all others? *NM* moondog - 19/04/2011 06:45:24 PM 406 Views
people always find some reason to doubt the legitimacy of a president they don't like random thoughts - 19/04/2011 09:01:33 PM 1018 Views
Brewer vetoes the bill! Skeeve the Great - 19/04/2011 02:31:50 AM 1083 Views
yay, she's not as much of a nutjob as i once thought she was! moondog - 19/04/2011 04:28:05 AM 961 Views
yes she is, don't let her fool you *NM* LadyLorraine - 19/04/2011 04:31:10 PM 376 Views
i didn't say she's not, just not as much as i thought before *NM* moondog - 19/04/2011 04:37:34 PM 418 Views
good. maybe they will move on to more important things *NM* random thoughts - 19/04/2011 02:41:34 PM 381 Views
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