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Yes I have Skeeve the Great Send a noteboard - 16/04/2011 10:44:50 PM
I dont understand how it remains a problem if you have enough revenue to cover it. So called "entitlement problem" is the problem only if you don't have money to pay for it. Otherwise, it's not a problem.

Even if you suppose you can raise tax revenue by cutting loopholes and forcing large companies to pay more taxes - whether that'll work or have the desired effect is another question, and one I don't feel particularly qualified to answer - it would only give you a little bit of respite. Social Security and Medicare are set on a growth path that will rapidly make them take up such huge parts of the budget that adjustments in other parts of the budget will make little difference. One way or another, the growth of those two programs has to be radically slowed down - or else the government will rapidly find itself unable to fund other important services. And frankly, I'm not sure merely cutting back waste and fraud will be enough.


http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/87xx/doc8758/MainText.3.1.shtml
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/102xx/doc10297/Chapter2.5.1.shtml

As you can see, the projected grows in Medicaid and Medicare spending are in line with total health care spending. No jumps, no rapid changes. Will we see increase? Yes. Will we see increase in revenue? Yes. Will percentage of participants of both programs grow? Unsure. Remember that under these programs we are covering children, retired, poor and less fortunate as well. If we cut the programs, they poor will remain poor and less fortunate will remain less fortunate. The children won't be covered so that means more sick adults will eventually join the ranks of working force. Since we are cutting (under GOP proposals) environmental regulations, working conditions regulations, etc, it's likely that we'll get more sick and injured people as well. So yes, if we do this, the percentage of both programs participants may grow substantially and we will face the crisis.
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Several basics facts about US Debt and Spending..... trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 04:41:55 AM 1208 Views
Well ... at least we've been here before ... ? The_Muted_Grimaud - 16/04/2011 06:41:00 AM 731 Views
Guess we should have okay'd those death panels for old people then. Big money saver. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 16/04/2011 03:38:00 PM 367 Views
Yeah, those old people are draining the system..... trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 06:57:59 PM 713 Views
You're already worse off than much of Europe, honestly. Legolas - 16/04/2011 04:08:37 PM 855 Views
Re: You're already worse off than much of Europe, honestly. Tihs Tnuc - 17/04/2011 01:33:31 AM 834 Views
Balancing our budget would be easy. ranagrande - 16/04/2011 06:46:32 PM 674 Views
Several of those aren't as easy as you make it sound, but the import tax is a big no-no. Legolas - 16/04/2011 07:34:30 PM 894 Views
Also on the buying drugs from Canada idea Isaac - 16/04/2011 08:17:26 PM 780 Views
Re: Also on the buying drugs from Canada idea Macharius - 18/04/2011 01:59:44 PM 819 Views
Re: Also on the buying drugs from Canada idea Isaac - 18/04/2011 05:16:14 PM 992 Views
Funny you mentioned WWII and 1968. Can you put tax rates at these times as well? Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 07:50:09 PM 1157 Views
Not really. Even if you can substantially raise tax revenue, the entitlement problem remains. *NM* Legolas - 16/04/2011 08:25:26 PM 328 Views
Re: Not really. Even if you can substantially raise tax revenue, the entitlement problem remains. Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 09:19:40 PM 822 Views
Have you ever looked at those projections for a decade or two hence? Legolas - 16/04/2011 10:13:12 PM 771 Views
Yes I have Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 10:44:50 PM 894 Views
Erm, and you think total health care spending is not getting out of control? I'm a little confused. Legolas - 16/04/2011 11:02:52 PM 824 Views
Yes it's going out of control Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 11:17:59 PM 761 Views
Good, we agree on that much then. Legolas - 17/04/2011 09:59:17 AM 750 Views
Exactly. Cutting back on fraud and waste doesn't really put much of a dent in those projections. *NM* Tom - 17/04/2011 02:31:13 AM 305 Views
Sorry, but that is a stupid opinion..... trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 08:38:35 PM 709 Views
Sounds like another bull. Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 09:31:05 PM 997 Views
Dude, the data is the data.....tax revenue increased all three times. trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 09:47:37 PM 942 Views
As I suspected, it's a bull. Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 10:02:05 PM 867 Views
Stop being a fool - read and react to the data provided, posting something..... trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 10:14:11 PM 634 Views
Response is Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 10:19:00 PM 853 Views
Good lord.....it's like talking to a brick. I really hope you are 12 or 13. trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 10:28:44 PM 842 Views
Re: Good lord.....it's like talking to a brick. I really hope you are 12 or 13. Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 10:47:24 PM 811 Views
I take it you mean "rate of revenue growth decreases". Legolas - 16/04/2011 11:11:19 PM 701 Views
Re: I take it you mean "rate of revenue growth decreases". Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 11:26:02 PM 855 Views
Additional point Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 11:37:17 PM 862 Views
It's not remarkable that revenue increased after the Reagan cuts. Tom - 17/04/2011 07:21:47 PM 1034 Views
I've just noticed that you've provided charts from Heritage Foundation! Are you f.. kidding me? Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 10:13:46 PM 724 Views
All the data is via CBO - do you know that the CBO is? trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 10:16:08 PM 737 Views
Re: All the data is via CBO - do you know that the CBO is? Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 10:27:01 PM 853 Views
Nice try.....care to explain why the same exact thing happened..... trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 10:35:44 PM 668 Views
Re: Nice try.....care to explain why the same exact thing happened..... Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 10:49:33 PM 800 Views
Krugman is a shill for the Obama administration. Tom - 17/04/2011 02:34:50 AM 676 Views
Re: Krugman is a shill for the Obama administration. Skeeve the Great - 17/04/2011 03:50:24 AM 907 Views
Some obesrvations by Republican economists Skeeve the Great - 18/04/2011 12:27:04 AM 1044 Views
You mean the Keynesian economist who wrote The Failure of Reaganomics random thoughts - 18/04/2011 04:00:52 PM 679 Views
Re: You mean the Keynesian economist who wrote The Failure of Reaganomics Skeeve the Great - 18/04/2011 05:36:44 PM 668 Views
You use Krugman and then complain about the Heritage Foundation! Are you f.. kidding me? *NM* random thoughts - 18/04/2011 02:46:47 AM 344 Views
Useless fact about our presidents since 1945. heartbreak - 17/04/2011 09:20:16 PM 930 Views
Re: Several basics facts about US Debt and Spending..... Skeeve the Great - 20/04/2011 03:51:19 PM 1102 Views
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