Re: You basically just said what I said. How am I not right?
MalkierKnight Send a noteboard - 15/04/2011 02:48:07 AM
The only thing that you seem to have any issue with is my definition of "the rich". I can't imagine how people can say someone making $150,000 in a metropolitan area is rich. Perhaps someone making $150,000 in a rural area is "well off".
Furthermore, even if one were to assume that $150,000 IS rich, there is only so much more that can be marginally taken from those brackets. The middle class will have to get hit as well, so the conclusion remains the same regardless of the methodology one uses to arrive at the conclusion.
With respect to everything else you said, we agree.
Furthermore, even if one were to assume that $150,000 IS rich, there is only so much more that can be marginally taken from those brackets. The middle class will have to get hit as well, so the conclusion remains the same regardless of the methodology one uses to arrive at the conclusion.
With respect to everything else you said, we agree.
I think my post came off as more contrary than I intended. I do think the issues we're facing are heavier than simple spending cuts. Though that is far and away the main problem.
We are in definite agreement that tossing taxes at the rich is a poor way to solve this problem.
Ultimately, and what too many ignore, Obama has failed on all levels to lead and follow through with the bipartisan platform on which he campaigned. The man never presents a proposal as his own and instead acts as a mediator, sifting through washington politics, then declaring himself the political victor whenever he gets a deal done.
Fortunately, he no longer has a majority so he's going to have to actually give some ground here. I just hope the republicans dont come out of this looking like assholes as they did in the 90s.
The shocking thing, though, is that most americans dont want to make cuts to medicare and social security. I didn't see you mention that explicitly so I think thats where I found my disagreement.
And I believe the statistic for wealthy you're looking for is 250k+ per household. Not 150k per person. Not sure if that clarifies anything, but I'd always heard that the top 5-10% of the population pays for something like 90% of all the governments revenue. Of course, thats probably not an accurate stat, but that does seem to be what most people think. If you have evidence against that you should link it to prove your point.
You must unlearn what you have learned.
How can anyone seriously support Obama's budget proposals?
- 14/04/2011 02:49:30 PM
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I agree with your overall point but I do question one of your facts
- 14/04/2011 03:25:25 PM
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Using IRS data for 2008: (most recent year for which data is available)
- 14/04/2011 03:45:20 PM
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You didn't interpret the spreadsheet correctly. I'm positive of that.
- 14/04/2011 06:08:39 PM
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I'm gonna have to jump on board the wagon with that being a bad figure, got some others
- 14/04/2011 07:33:14 PM
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Data: http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-soi/08in31mt.xls *NM*
- 14/04/2011 08:32:42 PM
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That's a breakdown of who modifies their returns and how it affects revenue.
- 14/04/2011 09:15:21 PM
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I believe you are questioning one of my definitions, not one of my facts.
- 14/04/2011 04:36:35 PM
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No matter how you define it I think it would be hard to call the top 5% middle class
- 14/04/2011 05:03:33 PM
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What a load of crap!
- 14/04/2011 03:49:29 PM
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Yes, your response is a load of crap.
- 14/04/2011 04:55:20 PM
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Re: Yes, your response is a load of crap.
- 14/04/2011 05:13:14 PM
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This is our first war without a tax increase.
- 14/04/2011 06:05:43 PM
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Er, check facts
- 14/04/2011 05:04:02 PM
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Yeah, lets fact check
- 14/04/2011 05:43:34 PM
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You understand you're actually supposed to cite data for a fact check right?
- 14/04/2011 06:38:22 PM
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I'm not sure thats entirely right
- 14/04/2011 05:51:18 PM
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You basically just said what I said. How am I not right?
- 14/04/2011 05:56:08 PM
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Re: You basically just said what I said. How am I not right?
- 15/04/2011 02:48:07 AM
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What about the farm subsidies and the military?
- 15/04/2011 04:54:54 PM
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Cutting the military isn't enough
- 16/04/2011 04:27:11 AM
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Defense is 60% of the discretionary budget as well, so it's more like 26% overall. Just sayin'. *NM*
- 16/04/2011 04:53:30 AM
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