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you said you are pissed that they recieve scholarships random thoughts Send a noteboard - 09/04/2011 07:45:02 PM
I would argue that collegiate sports is as well pretty well enmeshed in "academia" since they have been there from the beginning. Why do you think performing arts is different then football or basketball? If anything the athletes are the ones being screwed since they are not allowed to receive degree in sports even though it takes as much skill time and knowledge as any performing art.

My point is you can't expect to just be able to select one group and say that group is not worthy of being part of our education process without other people saying that other groups may not be worthy either, and it could be groups you support. It is hard to come with a logical argument of why performing arts is more worthy of being part of academia then sports are. Do you have better than your simple and unsupported claim that they are more enmeshed?

I am personally in favor of limiting scholarships, and grants and student loans for that matter to students who are studying things that are worthy. As long as I get to decide what is worthy.
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Hey college sports guys.. @my - 06/04/2011 06:17:34 PM 1074 Views
speaking as a former student athlete... LadyLorraine - 06/04/2011 06:43:13 PM 664 Views
I agree with this. *NM* Darth_Katie - 06/04/2011 09:16:43 PM 243 Views
Not a college sports guy, but I agree with LadyLorraine. Joel - 06/04/2011 07:17:07 PM 640 Views
I don't think that exact scenario would come up... LadyLorraine - 06/04/2011 07:33:03 PM 601 Views
Generally, I don't think they should get paid. Fox and Ravens - 06/04/2011 07:29:29 PM 552 Views
If they're in college, fuck no. But should they be in college in the first place? Legolas - 06/04/2011 07:57:03 PM 713 Views
I believe it's because sports like basketball and football want to see your college career LadyLorraine - 06/04/2011 08:47:24 PM 728 Views
Why not have young players prove themselves in the pro leagues immediately? *NM* Legolas - 06/04/2011 09:40:24 PM 230 Views
*shrug* ask them. less risk this way? *NM* LadyLorraine - 06/04/2011 10:09:39 PM 245 Views
Football players don't mature until their early 20s at the earliest Larry - 06/04/2011 10:52:50 PM 695 Views
I assume you mean why don't the NFL and NBA teams develop their own young players? snoopcester - 07/04/2011 11:32:49 AM 599 Views
I say keep the sports and get wrid of all the worthless arts and lit programs random thoughts - 07/04/2011 02:07:36 PM 618 Views
Except that "football" is not a major. LadyLorraine - 07/04/2011 07:35:37 PM 682 Views
I do believe they recieve college credit for playing random thoughts - 08/04/2011 02:14:31 PM 562 Views
Yah, in the same manner I got PE credit for doing Marching Band... LadyLorraine - 08/04/2011 09:05:55 PM 496 Views
RIt would be no harder to make football a degree program random thoughts - 09/04/2011 05:11:13 PM 542 Views
2/10; would not recommend this trolling. Ghavrel - 09/04/2011 09:35:28 PM 548 Views
pointing out the unpopular is not trolling *NM* random thoughts - 10/04/2011 03:38:35 AM 226 Views
Posting purposefully incorrect statements to get a rise out of people is. *NM* Ghavrel - 10/04/2011 08:48:02 AM 291 Views
what was the incorrect statement? *NM* random thoughts - 11/04/2011 07:18:52 PM 237 Views
Playing ignorant doesn't really suit you. Ghavrel - 11/04/2011 11:48:15 PM 566 Views
that may be, but the fact of the matter is that it isn't. *NM* LadyLorraine - 10/04/2011 12:19:14 AM 266 Views
Do you speak from experience or is it simply a matter of faith? *NM* random thoughts - 10/04/2011 03:37:31 AM 251 Views
so you do know of a school with a football major? LadyLorraine - 10/04/2011 04:50:17 PM 562 Views
Havn't we been playing them under the table all this time? *NM* grogg0316 - 06/04/2011 08:52:09 PM 364 Views
I'm already pissed they get scholarships for being able to play football. They can join the NFL beetnemesis - 07/04/2011 12:50:15 AM 672 Views
Sports bring in such a huge amount of money to schools though. Darth_Katie - 07/04/2011 04:32:37 AM 553 Views
It does help schools raise money, AND it does help the players LadyLorraine - 07/04/2011 07:38:31 PM 622 Views
That's why there are need and merit-based scholarships beetnemesis - 09/04/2011 03:22:09 PM 570 Views
I get the rationale, it just annoys me. *NM* beetnemesis - 09/04/2011 03:20:05 PM 239 Views
No. Sports brings in huge amounts of money to popular schools. *NM* Ghavrel - 09/04/2011 03:27:33 PM 228 Views
So no one should profit if everyone can't? Darth_Katie - 10/04/2011 06:25:44 PM 549 Views
Uh, no they can't just join the NFL. They have to have 2.5 years out of high school. *NM* everynametaken - 07/04/2011 04:49:07 AM 276 Views
Really? random thoughts - 07/04/2011 02:03:32 PM 592 Views
well...if anything that just means there should be MORE emphasis on academics... LadyLorraine - 07/04/2011 07:26:49 PM 700 Views
That is a personal decsion they made random thoughts - 08/04/2011 02:16:17 PM 581 Views
I'm...not really sure what that means. LadyLorraine - 08/04/2011 09:10:17 PM 529 Views
The graduation rate for athletes overall is higher than the general undergrad student body, it seems Larry - 09/04/2011 02:57:43 PM 678 Views
How is that statistic presented? LadyLorraine - 09/04/2011 03:13:54 PM 522 Views
schools are full of fluff classes and it isn't just because of sports random thoughts - 09/04/2011 05:21:57 PM 494 Views
I did not say it was. LadyLorraine - 10/04/2011 12:20:54 AM 577 Views
so we should just rely on your unbiased judgment and ignore facts? *NM* random thoughts - 10/04/2011 03:39:40 AM 246 Views
Yes that is precisely what I am asking. YOU CAUGHT ME *NM* LadyLorraine - 10/04/2011 05:25:52 PM 244 Views
well since you seem unable to support your arguments that must be the case *NM* random thoughts - 11/04/2011 07:22:33 PM 235 Views
If that is what helps you sleep at night *NM* LadyLorraine - 11/04/2011 07:51:50 PM 221 Views
You seem to be the one who needs to think football are less intelligent *NM* random thoughts - 13/04/2011 12:06:29 AM 219 Views
I said nothing about intelligence at any point LadyLorraine - 13/04/2011 03:58:18 AM 529 Views
That's because you risk your tenure if you fail the sports darlings. Ghavrel - 09/04/2011 03:24:19 PM 516 Views
your facts counter your argument not support it random thoughts - 09/04/2011 05:18:02 PM 653 Views
I'm repeating what professors have told me firsthand. Ghavrel - 09/04/2011 09:33:10 PM 837 Views
Most profeesors are weak kneed liberals who are still mad that they were shoved in lockers random thoughts - 10/04/2011 03:45:36 AM 749 Views
I laughed out loud. That was grand. Ghavrel - 10/04/2011 08:46:29 AM 505 Views
Sorry dude but "somone told me" really isn't a fact random thoughts - 11/04/2011 07:21:48 PM 531 Views
All right, man. Whatever makes you happy. *NM* Ghavrel - 11/04/2011 11:49:12 PM 217 Views
That funny coming from you *NM* random thoughts - 13/04/2011 12:05:30 AM 204 Views
Err... I don't care? My point was that colleges shouldn't give a damn about athletics beetnemesis - 09/04/2011 03:25:24 PM 629 Views
Because college is only about what YOU think it should be about? random thoughts - 09/04/2011 04:14:03 PM 530 Views
And yet we seem to agree that college is about education beetnemesis - 09/04/2011 07:29:31 PM 654 Views
you said you are pissed that they recieve scholarships random thoughts - 09/04/2011 07:45:02 PM 564 Views
Or girls? nossy - 08/04/2011 03:03:55 PM 523 Views
I can agree with this LadyLorraine - 08/04/2011 09:12:54 PM 513 Views
How about yes salary, no scholarship? They're getting paid with a full college scholarship. beetnemesis - 09/04/2011 03:30:06 PM 619 Views
you would have the issues brought up by the article LadyLorraine - 10/04/2011 05:15:12 PM 463 Views
Oh, I agree. Terrible idea. beetnemesis - 11/04/2011 02:57:37 AM 491 Views
Re: Oh, I agree. Terrible idea. nossy - 11/04/2011 03:18:47 AM 498 Views
if you have a full-ride... LadyLorraine - 11/04/2011 03:29:42 AM 619 Views
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