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No, I think you're still missing my point Isaac Send a noteboard - 16/03/2011 11:09:04 PM
Yes, that is the correct transcript, and I see you definitely got that point about how it should be included with the original post or people's view points are skewed going into it.

I see nothing in the broader context that changes how I first read the quote as a stand alone quote, it just confirms my reading of it.


No, that's the point, you wouldn't. Look, do you hear me about the EESC guy, I still think his comments were bad because of the soundbite, I really have no idea if I would have read that in context and complete and just waived it outside or been more outraged then I am now, and it doesn't matter, because my view it tainted by the soundbite.

which also makes me think my reading of your first post is right - you could have posted a link to the transcript to start with but opted not to and instead posted in a misleading fashion about an "environmentalist"


You seem to be of the opinion that I was trying for a hit piece on the EESC president, and that for some strange reason I went ahead and posted the whole thing and talked about how it wasn't so bad in context, then suggested people dig up Rush's and see if it was similar.

MWAHAHAHA!!! You've seen through my sinister plan, er, or something! My whole goal was to prove that hyper-partisan blogs and sites and pundits are totally objective sources of information who never take things out of context, by pointing out one from my side of the aisle that took something rather out of context. Drat! Foiled again!

Seriously, it does not behoove us to do these endless "X said this!" posts, all you get is people singing with the choir and even if what X said is shown to be wrong, or even right, nobody wants to change their mind. The point is that posters need to have those context with the original post, and if they can't find them, they shouldn't post it, because they don't even know if it is or isn't in context. At best they'll end up right for all the wrong reasons.
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So, how many drugs is Rush Limbaugh actually on? - 16/03/2011 08:30:25 AM 838 Views
Possibly different ones then the EESC president - 16/03/2011 03:58:41 PM 730 Views
No one's blaming the earthquake or tsunami on global warming. - 16/03/2011 04:22:52 PM 532 Views
Actually people have - 16/03/2011 04:31:37 PM 679 Views
Which people? Where? Example? - 16/03/2011 06:48:10 PM 699 Views
Tsunami and climate change - 17/03/2011 11:59:36 PM 681 Views
A slightly misleading post - 16/03/2011 07:41:46 PM 616 Views
Surprised? *NM* - 16/03/2011 08:59:35 PM 259 Views
Not completely. *NM* - 16/03/2011 09:13:48 PM 233 Views
Kind of missed the point there - 16/03/2011 09:54:35 PM 619 Views
If you link the transcript I'll look at it. - 16/03/2011 10:16:21 PM 491 Views
Re: If you link the transcript I'll look at it. - 16/03/2011 10:44:56 PM 631 Views
" I can't help attaching, you know, political reaction to this". Yeah, we noticed.... - 16/03/2011 11:10:11 PM 652 Views
Re: " I can't help attaching, you know, political reaction to this". Yeah, we noticed.... - 16/03/2011 11:42:29 PM 481 Views
Fair enough. - 17/03/2011 12:08:13 AM 586 Views
Re: Fair enough. - 17/03/2011 12:37:12 AM 559 Views
No worries. - 17/03/2011 12:48:44 AM 821 Views
I've read the transcript - 16/03/2011 10:34:41 PM 642 Views
Re: I've read the transcript - 16/03/2011 10:46:42 PM 557 Views
You need to reread what I said - 16/03/2011 10:49:45 PM 519 Views
No, I think you're still missing my point - 16/03/2011 11:09:04 PM 597 Views
Perhaps - 16/03/2011 11:26:37 PM 658 Views
Okay, I'm done - 16/03/2011 11:37:58 PM 555 Views
Seriously, you need to pick a better example to make your point - 18/03/2011 05:00:10 PM 537 Views
No. You don't get to say, "what he said doesn't matter because of how we learned of it". - 16/03/2011 11:54:46 PM 545 Views
I told you, I'm done in this thread - 16/03/2011 11:59:08 PM 525 Views
Acknowledged (though I'd not seen that response yet, sorry). - 17/03/2011 12:11:58 AM 565 Views
I think Republicans should stop using "legitimate". I do not think it means what they think it means - 16/03/2011 04:11:14 PM 637 Views
there are enough carzies on the left to make things like this easy for Rush - 16/03/2011 04:20:47 PM 583 Views
So it doesn't matter that no one said it as long as he can plausibly claim they did. - 16/03/2011 06:58:17 PM 513 Views
well since it is taken out of context it is hard to say where Rush was going with it - 16/03/2011 07:19:46 PM 618 Views
Um... he stated where he was going with it. - 16/03/2011 07:30:02 PM 579 Views
At least you are not ashamed to use a double standard - 16/03/2011 08:17:39 PM 524 Views
It's the same standard, whatever you choose to believe. - 16/03/2011 09:08:01 PM 645 Views
I don't thinkit is as clear as you make it out to be - 16/03/2011 09:31:53 PM 538 Views
It is not just "possible" he's talking about islands affected by global warming; he says it outright - 16/03/2011 10:09:16 PM 695 Views
Sorry but I still fail to see how the islands he mention are a sign of what needs to be done - 16/03/2011 10:27:20 PM 582 Views
Hey, guys! - 16/03/2011 10:55:07 PM 505 Views
and how its that different than what I said? *NM* - 16/03/2011 11:14:46 PM 222 Views
Then you don't understand context and this whole discussion is pointless. - 16/03/2011 11:28:47 PM 661 Views
lets throw a little context at asnd see if it matters - 17/03/2011 12:12:03 AM 544 Views
Yes: It makes it worse. - 17/03/2011 12:45:12 AM 552 Views
Re: At least you are not ashamed to use a double standard - 16/03/2011 09:22:37 PM 669 Views
maybe he heard that they were blaming it on Pearl Harbor *NM* - 16/03/2011 10:14:59 PM 225 Views

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