Yes, that is the correct transcript, and I see you definitely got that point about how it should be included with the original post or people's view points are skewed going into it.
I see nothing in the broader context that changes how I first read the quote as a stand alone quote, it just confirms my reading of it.
No, that's the point, you wouldn't. Look, do you hear me about the EESC guy, I still think his comments were bad because of the soundbite, I really have no idea if I would have read that in context and complete and just waived it outside or been more outraged then I am now, and it doesn't matter, because my view it tainted by the soundbite.
which also makes me think my reading of your first post is right - you could have posted a link to the transcript to start with but opted not to and instead posted in a misleading fashion about an "environmentalist"
You seem to be of the opinion that I was trying for a hit piece on the EESC president, and that for some strange reason I went ahead and posted the whole thing and talked about how it wasn't so bad in context, then suggested people dig up Rush's and see if it was similar.
MWAHAHAHA!!! You've seen through my sinister plan, er, or something! My whole goal was to prove that hyper-partisan blogs and sites and pundits are totally objective sources of information who never take things out of context, by pointing out one from my side of the aisle that took something rather out of context. Drat! Foiled again!
Seriously, it does not behoove us to do these endless "X said this!" posts, all you get is people singing with the choir and even if what X said is shown to be wrong, or even right, nobody wants to change their mind. The point is that posters need to have those context with the original post, and if they can't find them, they shouldn't post it, because they don't even know if it is or isn't in context. At best they'll end up right for all the wrong reasons.
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- Albert Einstein
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So, how many drugs is Rush Limbaugh actually on?
16/03/2011 08:30:25 AM
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Possibly different ones then the EESC president
16/03/2011 03:58:41 PM
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No one's blaming the earthquake or tsunami on global warming.
16/03/2011 04:22:52 PM
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Tsunami and climate change
17/03/2011 11:59:36 PM
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"Speakers were careful to point out that many findings still amounted only to hypotheses"
18/03/2011 01:31:44 PM
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Re: No one's blaming the earthquake or tsunami on global warming.
18/03/2011 12:25:01 PM
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Republican spin doctor Frank Luntz popularized "climate change" to make global warming appealing.
18/03/2011 01:56:01 PM
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A slightly misleading post
16/03/2011 07:41:46 PM
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Kind of missed the point there
16/03/2011 09:54:35 PM
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If you link the transcript I'll look at it.
16/03/2011 10:16:21 PM
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Re: If you link the transcript I'll look at it.
16/03/2011 10:44:56 PM
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" I can't help attaching, you know, political reaction to this". Yeah, we noticed....
16/03/2011 11:10:11 PM
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Re: " I can't help attaching, you know, political reaction to this". Yeah, we noticed....
16/03/2011 11:42:29 PM
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I've read the transcript
16/03/2011 10:34:41 PM
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Re: I've read the transcript
16/03/2011 10:46:42 PM
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You need to reread what I said
16/03/2011 10:49:45 PM
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No, I think you're still missing my point
16/03/2011 11:09:04 PM
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No. You don't get to say, "what he said doesn't matter because of how we learned of it".
16/03/2011 11:54:46 PM
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I think Republicans should stop using "legitimate". I do not think it means what they think it means
16/03/2011 04:11:14 PM
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there are enough carzies on the left to make things like this easy for Rush
16/03/2011 04:20:47 PM
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So it doesn't matter that no one said it as long as he can plausibly claim they did.
16/03/2011 06:58:17 PM
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well since it is taken out of context it is hard to say where Rush was going with it
16/03/2011 07:19:46 PM
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Um... he stated where he was going with it.
16/03/2011 07:30:02 PM
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At least you are not ashamed to use a double standard
16/03/2011 08:17:39 PM
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It's the same standard, whatever you choose to believe.
16/03/2011 09:08:01 PM
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I don't thinkit is as clear as you make it out to be
16/03/2011 09:31:53 PM
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It is not just "possible" he's talking about islands affected by global warming; he says it outright
16/03/2011 10:09:16 PM
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Sorry but I still fail to see how the islands he mention are a sign of what needs to be done
16/03/2011 10:27:20 PM
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Then you don't understand context and this whole discussion is pointless.
16/03/2011 11:28:47 PM
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lets throw a little context at asnd see if it matters
17/03/2011 12:12:03 AM
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Yes: It makes it worse.
17/03/2011 12:45:12 AM
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no it shows that the one statements was not meant to be taken literally
17/03/2011 02:47:55 AM
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At best, it shows he was joking about something he believes to be fact despite lacking evidence.
18/03/2011 02:24:45 PM
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so you finally agre that the context changes the meaning, took you long enough
18/03/2011 02:33:41 PM
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