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It is not just "possible" he's talking about islands affected by global warming; he says it outright Joel Send a noteboard - 16/03/2011 10:09:16 PM
he says we have been given a sign from Mother Natures. Now it is possible he is talking about islands affect by global warming but it isn't clear that is what is talking about. I think the statement is ambiguous enough to warrant a request for clarification.

In those very words: "The earthquake and tsunami will clearly have a severe impact on the economic and social activities of the region. Some islands affected by climate change have been hit". Again, the only way we can pretend he MIGHT mean something else is to ignore those words and reduce his comments to "Mother Nature has given us a sign that is what we should do", a statement that means nothing, because it doesn't state what the sign is nor what action it should prompt. Limbaughs words don't suffer from that uncertainty: He says very clearly and unambiguously, "This has to be a tough call for the environmentalists around the world. They're scrambling now to blame this on global warming". What needs clarification there? Saying that environmentalists are scrambling to blame the earthquake, tsunami and potential nuclear disaster on global warming needs RETRACTION, and desperately, but no one should need additional commentary to understand it. You want to talk about double standards? You're pretending the President of the EESC didn't say something he unequivocally said, just so you can pretend Rush said something he unequivocally DIDN'T.
As for Rush do we even know if this is the case he is referring to or is just and example Isaac gave? So no it isn't crystal clear what Rush was saying because we don't even know which environmentalist or statement he was referring to, mostly because the statement was taken out of context.

It's the only thing that's even been SUGGESTED as the case to which Limbaugh was referring; that Isaac couldn't find a better example speaks volumes, as does the fact that Limbaugh apparently made the statement without providing any example proving his accusation, forcing his defenders to seek one. If he had provided such an example we'd be criticizing the idiot who made the comment instead of THIS idiot for making the accusation. Your defense boils down to "someone, somewhere, who's an enviromentalist, MAY have said global warming caused the tsunami, so we should take Rushs word on that, without evidence, and accept on faith his statement that 'they're scrambling now to blame this on global warming'". Sorry, Rush Limbaugh doesn't have that kind of credibility with me; very few people do, and you wouldn't take it on faith if I said, "Republicans are scrambling to blame cancer on liberalism".
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So, how many drugs is Rush Limbaugh actually on? - 16/03/2011 08:30:25 AM 838 Views
Possibly different ones then the EESC president - 16/03/2011 03:58:41 PM 731 Views
No one's blaming the earthquake or tsunami on global warming. - 16/03/2011 04:22:52 PM 532 Views
Actually people have - 16/03/2011 04:31:37 PM 679 Views
Which people? Where? Example? - 16/03/2011 06:48:10 PM 699 Views
Tsunami and climate change - 17/03/2011 11:59:36 PM 681 Views
A slightly misleading post - 16/03/2011 07:41:46 PM 616 Views
Surprised? *NM* - 16/03/2011 08:59:35 PM 259 Views
Not completely. *NM* - 16/03/2011 09:13:48 PM 233 Views
Kind of missed the point there - 16/03/2011 09:54:35 PM 619 Views
If you link the transcript I'll look at it. - 16/03/2011 10:16:21 PM 491 Views
Re: If you link the transcript I'll look at it. - 16/03/2011 10:44:56 PM 631 Views
" I can't help attaching, you know, political reaction to this". Yeah, we noticed.... - 16/03/2011 11:10:11 PM 652 Views
Re: " I can't help attaching, you know, political reaction to this". Yeah, we noticed.... - 16/03/2011 11:42:29 PM 481 Views
Fair enough. - 17/03/2011 12:08:13 AM 586 Views
Re: Fair enough. - 17/03/2011 12:37:12 AM 560 Views
No worries. - 17/03/2011 12:48:44 AM 821 Views
I've read the transcript - 16/03/2011 10:34:41 PM 642 Views
Re: I've read the transcript - 16/03/2011 10:46:42 PM 557 Views
You need to reread what I said - 16/03/2011 10:49:45 PM 519 Views
No, I think you're still missing my point - 16/03/2011 11:09:04 PM 597 Views
Perhaps - 16/03/2011 11:26:37 PM 658 Views
Okay, I'm done - 16/03/2011 11:37:58 PM 555 Views
Seriously, you need to pick a better example to make your point - 18/03/2011 05:00:10 PM 537 Views
No. You don't get to say, "what he said doesn't matter because of how we learned of it". - 16/03/2011 11:54:46 PM 545 Views
I told you, I'm done in this thread - 16/03/2011 11:59:08 PM 525 Views
Acknowledged (though I'd not seen that response yet, sorry). - 17/03/2011 12:11:58 AM 565 Views
I think Republicans should stop using "legitimate". I do not think it means what they think it means - 16/03/2011 04:11:14 PM 638 Views
there are enough carzies on the left to make things like this easy for Rush - 16/03/2011 04:20:47 PM 583 Views
So it doesn't matter that no one said it as long as he can plausibly claim they did. - 16/03/2011 06:58:17 PM 513 Views
well since it is taken out of context it is hard to say where Rush was going with it - 16/03/2011 07:19:46 PM 618 Views
Um... he stated where he was going with it. - 16/03/2011 07:30:02 PM 579 Views
At least you are not ashamed to use a double standard - 16/03/2011 08:17:39 PM 525 Views
It's the same standard, whatever you choose to believe. - 16/03/2011 09:08:01 PM 645 Views
I don't thinkit is as clear as you make it out to be - 16/03/2011 09:31:53 PM 538 Views
It is not just "possible" he's talking about islands affected by global warming; he says it outright - 16/03/2011 10:09:16 PM 696 Views
Sorry but I still fail to see how the islands he mention are a sign of what needs to be done - 16/03/2011 10:27:20 PM 582 Views
Hey, guys! - 16/03/2011 10:55:07 PM 505 Views
and how its that different than what I said? *NM* - 16/03/2011 11:14:46 PM 222 Views
Then you don't understand context and this whole discussion is pointless. - 16/03/2011 11:28:47 PM 661 Views
lets throw a little context at asnd see if it matters - 17/03/2011 12:12:03 AM 544 Views
Yes: It makes it worse. - 17/03/2011 12:45:12 AM 552 Views
Re: At least you are not ashamed to use a double standard - 16/03/2011 09:22:37 PM 669 Views
maybe he heard that they were blaming it on Pearl Harbor *NM* - 16/03/2011 10:14:59 PM 225 Views

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