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Yes, this was disgusting, but since when does dirty lyrics = porn? Aeryn Send a noteboard - 22/02/2011 04:18:05 PM
The shock value of the video (I didn't watch, just read Tash's transcription) is in what it implies. There's no actual explicit sexual material.

We judge sexually explicit words vs. images in very different ways.

Have we ever seen children sing dirty filthy songs? Or in that movie Kick-Ass (I didn't see it), people seemed delighted at the little girl who cursed badly. The reaction was quite different from what would be if the little girl was portrayed in any sexual acts that she might describe.
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musician jailed over youtube prank -- faces 20+years plus child porn charges moondog - 20/02/2011 07:55:33 AM 1026 Views
Yay for home! MrFarstrider - 20/02/2011 12:20:14 PM 601 Views
Re: Yay for home! everynametaken - 22/02/2011 05:05:49 AM 574 Views
Mmmm, there is more to it . At first I was thinking it was much ado about nothing. Tashmere - 20/02/2011 03:31:51 PM 802 Views
This explains what happened better and lets me feel a little mercy for the guy. Tashmere - 20/02/2011 03:59:41 PM 839 Views
as stated, the children were never exposed to the "adult only" performance moondog - 20/02/2011 04:35:32 PM 603 Views
So I guess the moral of this story is think before you put things on the internet. *NM* Darth_Katie - 20/02/2011 06:10:32 PM 228 Views
He should get the pants sued off him. Ghavrel - 20/02/2011 07:08:56 PM 495 Views
His only mistake was not getting them to sign something, allowing to be posted on youtube A Deathwatch Guard - 21/02/2011 01:51:30 AM 579 Views
kids don't have that right. The parents would have needed to sign. *NM* random thoughts - 21/02/2011 07:24:04 PM 249 Views
The lyrics were hilarious? The sample I read and posted had nothing funny in them...maybe you can Tashmere - 22/02/2011 12:35:05 AM 480 Views
Well ... from this parents perspective dart_board - 21/02/2011 12:33:25 PM 568 Views
Lol and people say human beings aren't civilized *NM* Dark Knight - 21/02/2011 05:32:32 PM 230 Views
Re: Lol and people say human beings aren't civilized dart_board - 22/02/2011 02:19:48 PM 502 Views
Stupid and in bad taste, but certainly not worth jail time *NM* ironclad - 21/02/2011 12:41:28 PM 243 Views
For using the childrens' faces without permission he could be sued for monetary damages. Tom - 21/02/2011 01:50:19 PM 606 Views
Re: For using the childrens' faces without permission he could be sued for monetary damages. moondog - 21/02/2011 03:46:48 PM 595 Views
Tashmere's first reply above has a sample of the lyrics and how they were cut with the video. *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 21/02/2011 03:58:35 PM 216 Views
Agreed, that's really the only thing I can see that he can be sued for here. *NM* Legolas - 25/02/2011 10:36:53 PM 202 Views
"Oh, I didn't actually abuse any of those kids." Sareitha Sedai - 21/02/2011 02:37:00 PM 519 Views
Agreed. But being an asshat is not a crime. *NM* Ghavrel - 21/02/2011 05:02:59 PM 210 Views
No, it's not. Sareitha Sedai - 21/02/2011 05:22:05 PM 593 Views
no but using children to create sexually explicit material is random thoughts - 21/02/2011 07:36:32 PM 603 Views
"sexually explicit material" is different than "obscene" moondog - 22/02/2011 02:43:49 AM 545 Views
That is debatable. Tashmere - 22/02/2011 05:25:46 AM 508 Views
you don't believe both can describe language? random thoughts - 22/02/2011 02:30:16 PM 478 Views
Yes, this was disgusting, but since when does dirty lyrics = porn? Aeryn - 22/02/2011 04:18:05 PM 579 Views
The written word can be considered porn so why not song lyrics? random thoughts - 22/02/2011 05:04:37 PM 518 Views
It can? Aeryn - 23/02/2011 04:34:40 AM 610 Views
Yep Isaac - 23/02/2011 05:04:49 AM 568 Views
Actually, obscenity is one of the most poorly defined concepts in US law. Ghavrel - 26/02/2011 09:57:21 PM 654 Views
Yes, I've posted on the Miller Test Isaac - 26/02/2011 10:54:11 PM 710 Views
Penthouse letters is porn random thoughts - 24/02/2011 12:52:31 AM 498 Views
Am I the only one thinking of The Exorcist here? Legolas - 25/02/2011 10:40:58 PM 662 Views
yes you are the only one thinking that *NM* random thoughts - 25/02/2011 11:33:53 PM 202 Views
You gotta admit it doesn't get much worse than that in terms of exposing children to obscenity. Legolas - 26/02/2011 12:13:46 AM 507 Views
I need say I don't think he should go to prison for twenty years random thoughts - 26/02/2011 07:30:17 PM 545 Views
Yes that is a name Bramhodoulos - 21/02/2011 09:04:19 PM 669 Views
Inappropriate of course but child porn? Give me a break! *NM* everynametaken - 22/02/2011 05:06:20 AM 272 Views
defamation maybe Aeryn - 22/02/2011 04:21:03 PM 463 Views
Not sure if anyone else has asked this... Antigone - 25/02/2011 01:19:08 PM 768 Views
kids are video taped all the time at schools random thoughts - 25/02/2011 02:05:38 PM 463 Views
School staff is one thing, outside sources are another. Avendesora - 25/02/2011 02:56:20 PM 540 Views
most states run background checks and this guy may have had one run on him random thoughts - 25/02/2011 03:19:58 PM 552 Views
he got permission from the teacher and the kids' parents before the original filming session moondog - 25/02/2011 03:20:30 PM 568 Views
they probably didn't think he would it to make a "funny" video random thoughts - 26/02/2011 07:43:59 PM 653 Views
show one example the song was about sex with children and I might agree *NM* moondog - 26/02/2011 09:23:44 PM 235 Views
If you try hard enough you can believe whatever you want random thoughts - 26/02/2011 10:09:45 PM 562 Views
and if you're determined to railroad someone none of the facts matter moondog - 26/02/2011 11:36:42 PM 700 Views
If I put out a video that had you giggling as I sung about cumming on your face you would be fine? random thoughts - 27/02/2011 09:09:25 PM 487 Views
of course not, but the 1st amendment says you have the right moondog - 27/02/2011 11:02:42 PM 453 Views
the courts ruled a long time ago that the 1st amendment does not cover all speech random thoughts - 28/02/2011 10:58:38 PM 677 Views
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