Much as you may try to make it seem similar for the purposes of your argument, the two really have very little in common. One is abuse of imprisoned enemy soldiers during a war fought on the other side of the ocean, with all the logistic and organizational problems that will inevitably entail, while the other is abuse of the country's own citizens in an effort to keep dissenters quiet. Yeah, they're similar in that both are bad, but if you're going to start equating all the bad things that ever happened without looking at context...
The US was not a foreign country, they were considered rebels. The comparison would be that in Egypt people suffer a lack of basic rights we take for granted in the west these days and prisoners were treated horribly... considering those rights now taken for granted were not particularly common place during the American Reovlution and the prisoners suffered, and that many of the colonists came over to escape the various religious and political persecutions that take place in lots of these modern dictatorships still, I think the analogy is appropriate.
Though while we're on the topic of your argument, it isn't exactly clear to me what your argument even is. Are you really trying to support Joel's claim that they should've gone the "redress of grievances" way? Or are you merely quibbling over my comparative assessment of the Revolution?
I don't consider it 'quibbling' when someone implies the US rebelled over trifles.
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If anyone's looking for up-to-date info on what's going on in Egypt
- 28/01/2011 08:08:31 PM
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Clarify: Democracy fans should favor the protesters because they have more violent thugs,right?
- 28/01/2011 11:37:48 PM
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and socialism fans should favor the violent dicator since he can bring order and subsidies
- 29/01/2011 12:16:37 AM
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He mainly seems to bring close diplomatic ties to the US and alternatives to the Muslim Brotherhood
- 29/01/2011 12:59:48 AM
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You might want to do a quick check on the political situation in Egypt at this time.
- 29/01/2011 11:37:02 AM
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I've done a quick one; it makes me question whether government by the protesters would be better.
- 29/01/2011 11:44:10 PM
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It's a fairly simple matter, really.
- 29/01/2011 11:52:41 AM
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The trouble with free elections is: They're free.
- 29/01/2011 11:53:22 PM
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A vote for dictatorship and against democracy it is. Just checking.
- 30/01/2011 12:08:41 AM
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I haven't cast a vote.
- 30/01/2011 02:02:11 AM
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Not one that counts no, but still.
- 30/01/2011 01:11:59 PM
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None of any kind.
- 31/01/2011 12:10:07 AM
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so you support tyranny of others if it makes things more comfortable for you?
- 30/01/2011 05:15:01 AM
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I oppose brutal oppression; I'm unconvinced either side in this will end it, thus I withhold support
- 30/01/2011 05:21:37 AM
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some times it is black and white
- 31/01/2011 12:37:36 AM
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I fully support their right to demand democracy; I don't expect they'll get it, whatever happens.
- 31/01/2011 01:45:23 AM
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You're not seriously expecting them to do their revolution American Revolution-style, are you?
- 29/01/2011 11:28:31 AM
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I think terrorizing innocents and torching buildings is a poor way to claim the moral highground.
- 29/01/2011 11:32:19 PM
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British Colonialism wasn't a walk in the park
- 30/01/2011 03:53:58 AM
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Comparatively speaking, yes, it really was. Or at least in the US - not always so much in Asia.
- 30/01/2011 10:42:53 AM
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Re: Comparatively speaking, yes, it really was. Or at least in the US - not always so much in Asia.
- 30/01/2011 02:32:52 PM
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You can't be serious.
- 30/01/2011 03:07:18 PM
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Pretty serious
- 30/01/2011 04:52:24 PM
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Re: Pretty serious
- 30/01/2011 05:11:50 PM
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This is ridicolous
- 30/01/2011 05:31:31 PM
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I wouldn't normally think this necessary with you, but okay: let's go back and see what I said.
- 30/01/2011 06:34:09 PM
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you forget that it was supposdely thier own citizens the British were abusing.
- 31/01/2011 12:39:33 AM
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Sure, but organized into hostile armies. A rather different matter, that. *NM*
- 31/01/2011 09:46:25 PM
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I dont know if this will help you understand what is going on there
- 30/01/2011 02:45:41 AM
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Yikes indeed
- 29/01/2011 03:57:25 AM
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Apparently Egypt blocked access to Facebook, Twitter and some other websites.
- 29/01/2011 11:38:46 AM
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Heh, her update was basically "Thanks for turning facebook back on, Egypt."
- 29/01/2011 06:36:49 PM
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There seems to be some big misconceptions about the Egyption crisis
- 31/01/2011 11:52:37 PM
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