Clarify: Democracy fans should favor the protesters because they have more violent thugs,right?
Joel Send a noteboard - 28/01/2011 11:37:48 PM
This link has been updated near-continuously for a while now.
Yikes.
Yikes.
I mean, I'm no fan of one party authoritarian states sustained by the military and corrupt businessmen, but if Mubarak is opposing people who torch buildings and storm hotels while guests huddle in hiding wondering where the police are it's hard for me to question his response. This isn't the people peaceably assembling to petition for a redress of grievances, it's a national riot. Virtually any Western democracy faced with indiscrimate violence, possibly even killing, though it's hard to be sure from the little chaotic info I've seen, would declare martial law, and with that in mind Mubaraks response so far doesn't seem too unreasonable. I have no illusions about his nobility, but let's keep things in perspective and recall that neither the Reign of Terror nor the Bolshevik Revolution significantly improved things for the oppressed; it just meant they were oppressed at least as much and more violently. The relevance I see to those terms, even in an advanced modern nation like Egypt, is precisely the sort of thing I have in mind when I suggest the Mid-East isn't capable of full participation in 21st Century international relations.
So, who wants to clue me in on what I'm missing here...?
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This message last edited by Joel on 28/01/2011 at 11:39:07 PM
If anyone's looking for up-to-date info on what's going on in Egypt
28/01/2011 08:08:31 PM
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Clarify: Democracy fans should favor the protesters because they have more violent thugs,right?
28/01/2011 11:37:48 PM
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and socialism fans should favor the violent dicator since he can bring order and subsidies
29/01/2011 12:16:37 AM
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He mainly seems to bring close diplomatic ties to the US and alternatives to the Muslim Brotherhood
29/01/2011 12:59:48 AM
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You might want to do a quick check on the political situation in Egypt at this time.
29/01/2011 11:37:02 AM
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I've done a quick one; it makes me question whether government by the protesters would be better.
29/01/2011 11:44:10 PM
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It's a fairly simple matter, really.
29/01/2011 11:52:41 AM
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The trouble with free elections is: They're free.
29/01/2011 11:53:22 PM
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A vote for dictatorship and against democracy it is. Just checking.
30/01/2011 12:08:41 AM
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I haven't cast a vote.
30/01/2011 02:02:11 AM
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Not one that counts no, but still.
30/01/2011 01:11:59 PM
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None of any kind.
31/01/2011 12:10:07 AM
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so you support tyranny of others if it makes things more comfortable for you?
30/01/2011 05:15:01 AM
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I oppose brutal oppression; I'm unconvinced either side in this will end it, thus I withhold support
30/01/2011 05:21:37 AM
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some times it is black and white
31/01/2011 12:37:36 AM
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I fully support their right to demand democracy; I don't expect they'll get it, whatever happens.
31/01/2011 01:45:23 AM
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You're not seriously expecting them to do their revolution American Revolution-style, are you?
29/01/2011 11:28:31 AM
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I think terrorizing innocents and torching buildings is a poor way to claim the moral highground.
29/01/2011 11:32:19 PM
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British Colonialism wasn't a walk in the park
30/01/2011 03:53:58 AM
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Comparatively speaking, yes, it really was. Or at least in the US - not always so much in Asia.
30/01/2011 10:42:53 AM
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Re: Comparatively speaking, yes, it really was. Or at least in the US - not always so much in Asia.
30/01/2011 02:32:52 PM
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You can't be serious.
30/01/2011 03:07:18 PM
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Pretty serious
30/01/2011 04:52:24 PM
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Re: Pretty serious
30/01/2011 05:11:50 PM
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This is ridicolous
30/01/2011 05:31:31 PM
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I wouldn't normally think this necessary with you, but okay: let's go back and see what I said.
30/01/2011 06:34:09 PM
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you forget that it was supposdely thier own citizens the British were abusing.
31/01/2011 12:39:33 AM
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Sure, but organized into hostile armies. A rather different matter, that. *NM*
31/01/2011 09:46:25 PM
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I dont know if this will help you understand what is going on there
30/01/2011 02:45:41 AM
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Yikes indeed
29/01/2011 03:57:25 AM
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Apparently Egypt blocked access to Facebook, Twitter and some other websites.
29/01/2011 11:38:46 AM
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Heh, her update was basically "Thanks for turning facebook back on, Egypt."
29/01/2011 06:36:49 PM
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There seems to be some big misconceptions about the Egyption crisis
31/01/2011 11:52:37 PM
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