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Don't even know what that means. Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 28/01/2011 12:31:23 AM
Your post really only makes sense if you treat our time on earth as utter dross before the total end goal of creation, which is heaven. That's one of the obvious (and damaging) end results of damnation-based thinking, to my mind.

Might not be post-mortem. Maybe there will be reincarnation. I kind of like that idea (I also am enjoying imagining you twitch/squirm/roll your eyes as you read that :P).

In any case, the reason I preach and live the Gospel is because I think it enhances the value of human existence. If you think the Gospel's only virtue is that it contains all things necessary for salvation, well, that's sad. And surprising, to be honest. I don't think that's what you believe, though.
"We feel safe when we read what we recognise, what does not challenge our way of thinking.... a steady acceptance of pre-arranged patterns leads to the inability to question what we are told."
~Camilla

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Ted Haggard Would Be Bisexual If He Was a Hot 21-Year-Old beetnemesis - 27/01/2011 05:01:12 PM 1259 Views
OK *NM* random thoughts - 27/01/2011 06:10:10 PM 502 Views
Not sure what the point of this post was *NM* Shannow - 27/01/2011 06:50:59 PM 464 Views
It was something that made me laugh? beetnemesis - 27/01/2011 06:53:09 PM 778 Views
yeah you were only insulting people's religion, no reason to get worked up. *NM* random thoughts - 27/01/2011 09:24:55 PM 466 Views
Er, pretty sure just laughing at what one guy said, plus a pun on the word "hard" beetnemesis - 27/01/2011 09:40:29 PM 699 Views
I am an athiest so I don't care random thoughts - 27/01/2011 10:10:26 PM 763 Views
Re: I am an athiest so I don't care beetnemesis - 27/01/2011 11:10:21 PM 742 Views
bullshit random thoughts - 28/01/2011 03:54:41 PM 939 Views
Moron. *NM* Dan - 29/01/2011 03:48:35 PM 428 Views
Well put. Camilla - 29/01/2011 04:48:00 PM 1055 Views
Or he'd still be closeted because of twisted, hateful strains of Christianity. *NM* Ghavrel - 27/01/2011 06:56:04 PM 374 Views
If your religion states homosexuality is wrong, then it is a position of principle... Shannow - 27/01/2011 06:59:04 PM 844 Views
Wow, you really don't understand what it is to be human Roland00 - 27/01/2011 08:51:17 PM 702 Views
I'm sure you'll agree that a religious debate is not really called for here... Shannow - 27/01/2011 09:10:38 PM 792 Views
Homosexuality =/= homosexual sex. Legolas - 27/01/2011 09:16:50 PM 729 Views
Err...no. Shannow - 27/01/2011 09:23:54 PM 962 Views
Re: Err...no. Legolas - 27/01/2011 09:42:00 PM 913 Views
You seem to want to argue about what is allowed and what is not allowed... Shannow - 27/01/2011 10:08:10 PM 783 Views
Nah, I know better than to argue with you. I just thought your phrasing was rather silly. Legolas - 27/01/2011 10:14:50 PM 664 Views
So I am curious on your thoughts of Matthew 5:28 *NM* Roland00 - 27/01/2011 10:30:50 PM 402 Views
What about it? Shannow - 28/01/2011 03:26:19 PM 808 Views
not really random thoughts - 27/01/2011 10:15:32 PM 981 Views
I completely and utterly disagree Roland00 - 27/01/2011 10:39:10 PM 719 Views
The carnal nature of the flesh just happens to be the way we're all innately broken. Joel - 27/01/2011 11:30:09 PM 875 Views
Replace "Christian Faith" with "hardcore Calvinism" and I'll go away. Ghavrel - 28/01/2011 12:35:36 AM 682 Views
Brush up on your Romans and Corinthians Roland00 - 28/01/2011 03:30:24 PM 1107 Views
I think that covered it pretty well. Joel - 27/01/2011 11:23:13 PM 846 Views
Is it possible to have faith, but not agree with your church's stance on subjects?. *NM* Beqi - 27/01/2011 09:15:14 PM 426 Views
Of course. Faith is a broad concept. But... Shannow - 27/01/2011 09:20:54 PM 864 Views
I was thinking along the lines of Christans who are gay or or believe in gay rights. Beqi - 27/01/2011 09:29:50 PM 740 Views
Absolutely. Darth_Katie - 27/01/2011 11:17:19 PM 652 Views
Nicely said *NM* Isaac - 27/01/2011 11:19:54 PM 428 Views
Agreed. Ghavrel - 28/01/2011 12:26:38 AM 694 Views
Re: Agreed. Darth_Katie - 28/01/2011 01:48:22 AM 843 Views
Well, at least you're not disputing the nature of my claim. Ghavrel - 27/01/2011 10:23:24 PM 725 Views
I thought acceptance meant rejecting anything with which you're uncomfortable? Joel - 27/01/2011 11:39:48 PM 868 Views
Don't even know what that means. Ghavrel - 28/01/2011 12:31:23 AM 643 Views
Actually, that first line is my problem with Universalism Joel - 28/01/2011 01:54:00 AM 835 Views
"Carnal flesh" is redundant, you know. Ghavrel - 28/01/2011 04:27:30 AM 717 Views
Point of emphasis. Joel - 28/01/2011 05:52:28 AM 826 Views
Agreed. *NM* Ghavrel - 28/01/2011 06:33:55 AM 405 Views
Then I'm confused, either about what you believe or how you reconcile it with my second paragraph. Joel - 28/01/2011 10:54:13 PM 907 Views
At the risk of simplifying: All roads don't lead to Cleveland, nor do they lead to God. Zalis - 01/02/2011 03:47:57 PM 907 Views
...I can't believe of the three posts, this is the only one with replies beetnemesis - 27/01/2011 09:48:14 PM 640 Views
I read it, if that's any consolation. *NM* Legolas - 27/01/2011 10:00:31 PM 432 Views
It is nothing new, there are always people "who protest too much" Roland00 - 27/01/2011 10:26:49 PM 681 Views
TAHT'S BECAUSE IT'S GAAAAAAAAAAAAY. *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 27/01/2011 11:01:15 PM 442 Views
I thought that was quite humorous The_Muted_Grimaud - 27/01/2011 11:38:31 PM 771 Views
This guy needs serious mental help, in my humble laymans opinion. Joel - 27/01/2011 11:42:00 PM 737 Views
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