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I never said I agreed . Tim Send a noteboard - 25/01/2011 08:19:11 AM
But you've got to admit, a separate language is a very important part of what distinguishes one ethnic group from another.
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So the Irish government has basically imploded. Stephen - 23/01/2011 04:47:10 PM 1532 Views
I am now confused Camilla - 23/01/2011 05:34:31 PM 898 Views
You won't be the only person Stephen - 23/01/2011 06:21:23 PM 824 Views
You do realize Britain is pretty much the envy of the Western world at the moment? Legolas - 23/01/2011 06:27:05 PM 953 Views
Re: You do realize Britain is pretty much the envy of the Western world at the moment? Camilla - 23/01/2011 06:34:47 PM 874 Views
I did. There was more violence than in ours, that's true (ours have none so far, knock on wood). Legolas - 23/01/2011 06:41:34 PM 857 Views
Re: I did. There was more violence than in ours, that's true (ours have none so far, knock on wood). Camilla - 23/01/2011 06:43:41 PM 791 Views
Those protests were only violent by British standards. Tim - 23/01/2011 11:54:15 PM 862 Views
Really? Camilla - 24/01/2011 12:03:38 AM 753 Views
But... Wibble - 24/01/2011 07:28:17 PM 831 Views
Re: But... Camilla - 24/01/2011 07:30:39 PM 1085 Views
What protests? Wibble - 24/01/2011 07:26:49 PM 895 Views
Re: What protests? Camilla - 24/01/2011 07:28:40 PM 770 Views
Re: What protests? Nebhead - 25/01/2011 09:23:17 AM 896 Views
There's a new objection Camilla - 25/01/2011 11:38:25 AM 833 Views
I didn't object... Nebhead - 25/01/2011 11:47:11 AM 722 Views
Re: I didn't object... Camilla - 25/01/2011 11:49:36 AM 678 Views
If you look at the bottom of that list... Nebhead - 25/01/2011 11:58:24 AM 759 Views
And Britain had to live with the Conservative Wilderness for 15 years before it could get there *NM* Roland00 - 24/01/2011 02:43:16 AM 430 Views
Should I start chiming in on Norwegian politics now that I'm here...? Joel - 24/01/2011 12:42:03 AM 722 Views
Why not? Camilla - 24/01/2011 08:49:07 AM 861 Views
'Cos I doubt you'll like what I have to say, for one thing. Joel - 26/01/2011 01:55:13 AM 859 Views
Re: 'Cos I doubt you'll like what I have to say, for one thing. Camilla - 26/01/2011 08:42:04 AM 916 Views
I misconstrued your sarcasm, sorry. Joel - 26/01/2011 10:23:40 AM 1059 Views
That's been a while coming, hasn't it? Cowen seems to be losing it. Legolas - 23/01/2011 05:48:30 PM 840 Views
Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Stephen - 23/01/2011 06:27:27 PM 905 Views
Re: Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Legolas - 23/01/2011 06:33:26 PM 856 Views
Re: Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Stephen - 23/01/2011 07:19:03 PM 949 Views
Re: Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Legolas - 23/01/2011 07:57:05 PM 810 Views
Re: Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Stephen - 23/01/2011 09:29:03 PM 909 Views
Re: Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Legolas - 23/01/2011 09:46:20 PM 867 Views
I think Adams is an Irish citizen, and not a British one. Tim - 23/01/2011 11:45:34 PM 825 Views
Re: I think Adams is an Irish citizen, and not a British one. Stephen - 23/01/2011 11:53:12 PM 831 Views
The part that I find strange is... Tim - 23/01/2011 11:58:27 PM 782 Views
Re: Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Stephen - 23/01/2011 11:45:39 PM 710 Views
I found out something else today which makes it even better. Tim - 24/01/2011 10:37:45 PM 981 Views
I was reading your post and going "what about the Chiltern Hundreds"? Legolas - 24/01/2011 10:44:32 PM 831 Views
Today's news: it got better again! Tim - 26/01/2011 07:51:51 PM 868 Views
Oh, alternatively we could elevate him to the House of Lords. Tim - 26/01/2011 11:08:44 PM 843 Views
Awesome idea. Something like "Baron Adams of Londonderry", I'm thinking. *NM* Legolas - 27/01/2011 07:54:26 PM 416 Views
We made his arch-rival a Lord, after all, so it would only be fair. Tim - 28/01/2011 08:26:15 AM 779 Views
"This is the voice of a life peer" Michael - 28/01/2011 02:18:04 PM 910 Views
Here you go Elaine - 25/01/2011 12:55:33 PM 922 Views
That's the site I found too. Tim - 25/01/2011 01:25:56 PM 782 Views
Right. Elaine - 25/01/2011 01:42:49 PM 987 Views
well, the only interesting thing in swedish politics is a wikileaks document and the reactions... jh - 23/01/2011 06:21:00 PM 899 Views
That's interesting Stephen - 23/01/2011 06:32:05 PM 876 Views
What is inappropriate about trying to keep out barbaric unskilled people? Tom - 23/01/2011 10:59:53 PM 854 Views
The inappropriateness is the generalisation in the claim Camilla - 23/01/2011 11:16:52 PM 832 Views
Generalizations are inappropriate when they are disproven by statistics, and appropriate when proven Tom - 24/01/2011 07:33:14 PM 788 Views
I've looked into the statistics a bit more. Tom - 24/01/2011 09:11:52 PM 806 Views
I take it you're talking about the Middle East in its most narrow sense here. Legolas - 24/01/2011 09:56:22 PM 849 Views
... the fact that they are asylum seekers, and their skill certainly shouldn't matter in that case. jh - 24/01/2011 07:08:14 PM 735 Views
Schweden schafft sich ab, eh? Tom - 24/01/2011 07:31:33 PM 996 Views
Not to mention... ßelals Girl - 26/01/2011 07:55:26 PM 717 Views
ßelals Girl - 26/01/2011 07:46:19 PM 826 Views
Hopefully they'll stop using Irish officially as a way to cut down on unnecessary costs. Tom - 23/01/2011 10:57:08 PM 776 Views
I'd support that Stephen - 23/01/2011 11:26:20 PM 849 Views
Ironically, if you de-officialised Irish you could get EU money to help preserve it. Tim - 23/01/2011 11:48:14 PM 759 Views
I never realised that Stephen - 23/01/2011 11:54:43 PM 787 Views
But why, why? Tom - 24/01/2011 08:35:43 PM 745 Views
Because it's the only thing justifying their insistence they're not British? Legolas - 24/01/2011 10:03:54 PM 796 Views
But all language learning should be purely voluntary (after what parents teach their children). Tom - 25/01/2011 03:05:28 AM 779 Views
What, so you don't think students in high school should be taught foreign languages? Legolas - 25/01/2011 06:34:21 PM 751 Views
Irish is the mother tongue of about 7,000-15,000 people at most. Tom - 26/01/2011 05:04:00 AM 822 Views
Wikipedia says it's more like 40k-80k. Legolas - 26/01/2011 06:41:41 PM 1194 Views
And Elaine, Stephen, or any other Irish people here: do feel free to comment. *NM* Legolas - 26/01/2011 06:42:36 PM 433 Views
Inflated statistics from what I've read. Tom - 26/01/2011 09:45:51 PM 757 Views
They might be, indeed. Elaine - 27/01/2011 01:08:09 PM 977 Views
More to the point, are YOU interested in learning Irish? Tom - 26/01/2011 05:15:18 AM 731 Views
Calling Ireland the new Sodom and Gomorrah, are you? Legolas - 26/01/2011 06:02:05 PM 891 Views
I don't think it's as fun as Sodom and Gomorrah, at least not post-crisis. Tom - 26/01/2011 09:48:54 PM 852 Views
Re: I don't think it's as fun as Sodom and Gomorrah, at least not post-crisis. Legolas - 27/01/2011 08:42:21 PM 709 Views
Presumably because they agree with J.R.R. Tolkien and Tómas Sæmundsson about language's importance. Tim - 24/01/2011 10:16:05 PM 891 Views
So Australians and New Zealanders are really English then? Austrians are just Germans? Tom - 25/01/2011 03:01:14 AM 852 Views
I never said I agreed . Tim - 25/01/2011 08:19:11 AM 823 Views
I would suggest that a distinct dialect does the job just as well majander - 25/01/2011 02:23:59 PM 836 Views
That's a very good point. Tom - 26/01/2011 05:06:32 AM 812 Views
Indeed. Legolas - 26/01/2011 06:06:00 PM 887 Views
The thing is, people who feel really strongly about that usually insist it's a separate language. Tim - 28/01/2011 04:20:57 PM 701 Views
It's really more about having a unique silly costume to wear at Miss Universe pageants. Tom - 26/01/2011 05:09:10 AM 689 Views
You're confusing what we sell to gullible American tourists with what we actually value . *NM* Tim - 28/01/2011 04:15:01 PM 368 Views
What the hell happened to the Celtic Tiger Country? *NM* Blaine - 24/01/2011 05:47:12 AM 466 Views
Thrown away on bling and tat, unfortunately. Elaine - 24/01/2011 01:01:27 PM 710 Views
The Celtic Tiger is dead, Ireland had a GDP contraction of 14% in the last two years. Roland00 - 24/01/2011 01:47:06 PM 804 Views
It's still there, but it aimed a bit too high and got a bit scorched. Legolas - 24/01/2011 10:07:36 PM 680 Views
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