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I am now confused Camilla Send a noteboard - 23/01/2011 05:34:31 PM
I should have kept up on Irish politics.

Norwegian politics is boring, the only point of interest at the moment being that the newspapers and people in general have recently discovered that illegal immigrants are sometimes people with actual lives and identities, not just scary masses of Otherness, and so they want the government to make exceptions for that one person (but god forbid we make the rules more humane to begin with).

Britain...
Don't get me started.
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So the Irish government has basically imploded. Stephen - 23/01/2011 04:47:10 PM 1611 Views
I am now confused Camilla - 23/01/2011 05:34:31 PM 985 Views
You won't be the only person Stephen - 23/01/2011 06:21:23 PM 888 Views
You do realize Britain is pretty much the envy of the Western world at the moment? Legolas - 23/01/2011 06:27:05 PM 1013 Views
Re: You do realize Britain is pretty much the envy of the Western world at the moment? Camilla - 23/01/2011 06:34:47 PM 951 Views
I did. There was more violence than in ours, that's true (ours have none so far, knock on wood). Legolas - 23/01/2011 06:41:34 PM 928 Views
Re: I did. There was more violence than in ours, that's true (ours have none so far, knock on wood). Camilla - 23/01/2011 06:43:41 PM 869 Views
Those protests were only violent by British standards. Tim - 23/01/2011 11:54:15 PM 938 Views
Really? Camilla - 24/01/2011 12:03:38 AM 841 Views
But... Wibble - 24/01/2011 07:28:17 PM 901 Views
Re: But... Camilla - 24/01/2011 07:30:39 PM 1154 Views
What protests? Wibble - 24/01/2011 07:26:49 PM 988 Views
Re: What protests? Camilla - 24/01/2011 07:28:40 PM 841 Views
Re: What protests? Nebhead - 25/01/2011 09:23:17 AM 973 Views
There's a new objection Camilla - 25/01/2011 11:38:25 AM 905 Views
I didn't object... Nebhead - 25/01/2011 11:47:11 AM 788 Views
Re: I didn't object... Camilla - 25/01/2011 11:49:36 AM 755 Views
If you look at the bottom of that list... Nebhead - 25/01/2011 11:58:24 AM 836 Views
And Britain had to live with the Conservative Wilderness for 15 years before it could get there *NM* Roland00 - 24/01/2011 02:43:16 AM 463 Views
Should I start chiming in on Norwegian politics now that I'm here...? Joel - 24/01/2011 12:42:03 AM 824 Views
Why not? Camilla - 24/01/2011 08:49:07 AM 936 Views
'Cos I doubt you'll like what I have to say, for one thing. Joel - 26/01/2011 01:55:13 AM 935 Views
Re: 'Cos I doubt you'll like what I have to say, for one thing. Camilla - 26/01/2011 08:42:04 AM 991 Views
I misconstrued your sarcasm, sorry. Joel - 26/01/2011 10:23:40 AM 1148 Views
That's been a while coming, hasn't it? Cowen seems to be losing it. Legolas - 23/01/2011 05:48:30 PM 915 Views
Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Stephen - 23/01/2011 06:27:27 PM 987 Views
Re: Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Legolas - 23/01/2011 06:33:26 PM 929 Views
Re: Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Stephen - 23/01/2011 07:19:03 PM 1028 Views
Re: Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Legolas - 23/01/2011 07:57:05 PM 882 Views
Re: Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Stephen - 23/01/2011 09:29:03 PM 986 Views
Re: Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Legolas - 23/01/2011 09:46:20 PM 940 Views
I think Adams is an Irish citizen, and not a British one. Tim - 23/01/2011 11:45:34 PM 901 Views
Re: I think Adams is an Irish citizen, and not a British one. Stephen - 23/01/2011 11:53:12 PM 904 Views
The part that I find strange is... Tim - 23/01/2011 11:58:27 PM 859 Views
Re: Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Stephen - 23/01/2011 11:45:39 PM 781 Views
I found out something else today which makes it even better. Tim - 24/01/2011 10:37:45 PM 1059 Views
I was reading your post and going "what about the Chiltern Hundreds"? Legolas - 24/01/2011 10:44:32 PM 902 Views
Today's news: it got better again! Tim - 26/01/2011 07:51:51 PM 951 Views
Oh, alternatively we could elevate him to the House of Lords. Tim - 26/01/2011 11:08:44 PM 918 Views
Awesome idea. Something like "Baron Adams of Londonderry", I'm thinking. *NM* Legolas - 27/01/2011 07:54:26 PM 448 Views
We made his arch-rival a Lord, after all, so it would only be fair. Tim - 28/01/2011 08:26:15 AM 850 Views
"This is the voice of a life peer" Michael - 28/01/2011 02:18:04 PM 986 Views
Here you go Elaine - 25/01/2011 12:55:33 PM 1003 Views
That's the site I found too. Tim - 25/01/2011 01:25:56 PM 847 Views
Right. Elaine - 25/01/2011 01:42:49 PM 1080 Views
well, the only interesting thing in swedish politics is a wikileaks document and the reactions... jh - 23/01/2011 06:21:00 PM 972 Views
That's interesting Stephen - 23/01/2011 06:32:05 PM 921 Views
What is inappropriate about trying to keep out barbaric unskilled people? Tom - 23/01/2011 10:59:53 PM 932 Views
The inappropriateness is the generalisation in the claim Camilla - 23/01/2011 11:16:52 PM 905 Views
Generalizations are inappropriate when they are disproven by statistics, and appropriate when proven Tom - 24/01/2011 07:33:14 PM 866 Views
I've looked into the statistics a bit more. Tom - 24/01/2011 09:11:52 PM 882 Views
I take it you're talking about the Middle East in its most narrow sense here. Legolas - 24/01/2011 09:56:22 PM 919 Views
... the fact that they are asylum seekers, and their skill certainly shouldn't matter in that case. jh - 24/01/2011 07:08:14 PM 803 Views
Schweden schafft sich ab, eh? Tom - 24/01/2011 07:31:33 PM 1073 Views
Not to mention... ßelals Girl - 26/01/2011 07:55:26 PM 799 Views
ßelals Girl - 26/01/2011 07:46:19 PM 916 Views
Hopefully they'll stop using Irish officially as a way to cut down on unnecessary costs. Tom - 23/01/2011 10:57:08 PM 861 Views
I'd support that Stephen - 23/01/2011 11:26:20 PM 930 Views
Ironically, if you de-officialised Irish you could get EU money to help preserve it. Tim - 23/01/2011 11:48:14 PM 838 Views
I never realised that Stephen - 23/01/2011 11:54:43 PM 863 Views
But why, why? Tom - 24/01/2011 08:35:43 PM 825 Views
Because it's the only thing justifying their insistence they're not British? Legolas - 24/01/2011 10:03:54 PM 879 Views
But all language learning should be purely voluntary (after what parents teach their children). Tom - 25/01/2011 03:05:28 AM 853 Views
What, so you don't think students in high school should be taught foreign languages? Legolas - 25/01/2011 06:34:21 PM 822 Views
Irish is the mother tongue of about 7,000-15,000 people at most. Tom - 26/01/2011 05:04:00 AM 894 Views
Wikipedia says it's more like 40k-80k. Legolas - 26/01/2011 06:41:41 PM 1271 Views
And Elaine, Stephen, or any other Irish people here: do feel free to comment. *NM* Legolas - 26/01/2011 06:42:36 PM 451 Views
Inflated statistics from what I've read. Tom - 26/01/2011 09:45:51 PM 828 Views
They might be, indeed. Elaine - 27/01/2011 01:08:09 PM 1056 Views
More to the point, are YOU interested in learning Irish? Tom - 26/01/2011 05:15:18 AM 803 Views
Calling Ireland the new Sodom and Gomorrah, are you? Legolas - 26/01/2011 06:02:05 PM 964 Views
I don't think it's as fun as Sodom and Gomorrah, at least not post-crisis. Tom - 26/01/2011 09:48:54 PM 929 Views
Re: I don't think it's as fun as Sodom and Gomorrah, at least not post-crisis. Legolas - 27/01/2011 08:42:21 PM 795 Views
Presumably because they agree with J.R.R. Tolkien and Tómas Sæmundsson about language's importance. Tim - 24/01/2011 10:16:05 PM 970 Views
So Australians and New Zealanders are really English then? Austrians are just Germans? Tom - 25/01/2011 03:01:14 AM 918 Views
I never said I agreed . Tim - 25/01/2011 08:19:11 AM 891 Views
I would suggest that a distinct dialect does the job just as well majander - 25/01/2011 02:23:59 PM 915 Views
That's a very good point. Tom - 26/01/2011 05:06:32 AM 888 Views
Indeed. Legolas - 26/01/2011 06:06:00 PM 960 Views
The thing is, people who feel really strongly about that usually insist it's a separate language. Tim - 28/01/2011 04:20:57 PM 776 Views
It's really more about having a unique silly costume to wear at Miss Universe pageants. Tom - 26/01/2011 05:09:10 AM 763 Views
You're confusing what we sell to gullible American tourists with what we actually value . *NM* Tim - 28/01/2011 04:15:01 PM 397 Views
What the hell happened to the Celtic Tiger Country? *NM* Blaine - 24/01/2011 05:47:12 AM 497 Views
Thrown away on bling and tat, unfortunately. Elaine - 24/01/2011 01:01:27 PM 787 Views
The Celtic Tiger is dead, Ireland had a GDP contraction of 14% in the last two years. Roland00 - 24/01/2011 01:47:06 PM 875 Views
It's still there, but it aimed a bit too high and got a bit scorched. Legolas - 24/01/2011 10:07:36 PM 751 Views
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