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*nods* Jeordam Send a noteboard - 14/12/2010 06:09:42 PM
Both when you use it directly (which I have yet to do with a stealth bomber, unless Civ II counts) and when you indirectly benefit from a larger and healthier (thus cheaper and more productive) labor and technical pool.

Larger and healthier labor/technical pool? Last time I checked, those people were the ones who were more capable to buy their own health insurance...not be forced to buy it. I understand and acknowledge that there are a great many exceptions (those that work for small business for instance).

As for taxes: You tax people with money; taxing people with no money tends to build deficits (not that it stopped Reagan, of course). If I can pay taxes for an Iraq invasion illegal under international law simply because a majority of our elected representatives voted for it, you can pay taxes for a perfectly constitutional healthcare bill a majority of those same representatives voted for as well.

How does taxing people with no money build deficits? Everyone has money....even if its just a little. As we already stated, not everyone is taxed. But you actually made my day with this paragraph. I had to smile.

"Iraq invasion illegal under international law"...that makes me laugh for several reasons. The first of all was that Saddam violated the treaty from the 1st Iraq war by even firing on an airplane. Secondly, international law means exactly nothing. It has absolutely no juris-my-diction over the US. *laughs* (I just watched the original Matrix yesterday)

And the Health Care Legislation is not Constitutional (hence the court debate and its eventual overturning). The Government has no such authority to *force* anyone to buy something that they don't want to buy. Period and full stop.

Meh. A lot of folks would like to pick and choose what taxes they do and don't pay and each thing on which those taxes are spent. Of course, if every government expenditure without unanimous popular approval were unconstitutional I'd have gone to the SCOTUS when I was "forced" to subsidize SUVs for people who didn't need my help buying expensive, global warming, foreign oil dependent and unsafe road hogs. As the Republicans will remind us all when they have another legislative majority, if you don't like the law you change it, not get a judge to illegally annul it.

This paragraph is so much blah blah blah. I didn't like the US car industry bail out either, but I deal with it, because it didn't *force* me to buy an American made car. It forced me to support an industry which was loosing money hand over fist (for whatever reason).

~Jeordam
ex-Admin at wotmania (all things wot & art galleries)
Saving the Princess, Humanity, or the World-Entire since 1985
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