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Well, honestly, I don't know, but I expect language filter subroutines are pretty standardized now. Joel Send a noteboard - 22/11/2010 08:01:07 PM
Believe it or not, most such software doesn't have a manual black- or whitelist (as creating and keeping these up to date would be a huge undertaking), but rely on at least semi-automated means. The upside to this is that new or small sites are also taken care or by such an approach, while manual listings might skip these.

Either one would be easier than scanning the whole site for certain words, however, and that was my point. That, and that circumventing the language filter is absurdly easy unless the site has additional safeguards to prevent it. wotmania could've but never did, because the objective was to increase accessibility, not censor content. I'm still not sure why that's so objectionable here, since the same people who object to it so strenuously can work around it almost unconsciously. How much effort does it take to type <html></html> if you just HAVE to swear at people?

The entire filter is implemented server-side, all a browser will see is possible error messages (which'll then have to be parsed to see that it's a filter rather than something else).

Both the submit and preview buttons are of the same type. Any filter will either a) not be logged in, in which case that'll give an error, or b) attempt to submit a post and then parse the result. The latter scenario should mean that at least now and then there should be an extra post submitted by such a filter not sure of which of the two buttons to use.

Such checking for routines could well be implemented for major BB systems such as phpBB and vBulletin, but remember that RAFO has completely custom code that probably behaves differently from these.

Also remember that RAFO has no such filter anyway, so there's nothing to find, however thorough the check; however basic or complex such a check is, RAFO fails it miserably.

Anyway, I admit this is an assumption, but I expect language filters have been around long enough to be fairly standardized; part of the point of having subroutines is to simplify the code not just for the people who wrote it, but for later troubleshooting by that person and others. In fact, IIRC, one of the complaints against wotmania was that Mike often patched old code rather than rewriting it, so that after a decade it was a confusing jumble even he had trouble navigating, and hopeless for anyone else. I doubt there are very many ways of filtering content in common use, or that it would be difficult for a webbrowser to recognize that among the data it receives when linked to a site.

I also still think it's kind of silly to put an exclamation point next to a dead link, as RAFO does with the nonexistent "Rules" section. It's important enough to command attention, but not to actually go anywhere.

Like I said, built for nostalgia, not longevity. It's not my call, but maybe it's time to stop kidding ourselves.
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Delicate? *NM* - 22/11/2010 05:06:19 AM 340 Views
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I never had that issue. - 22/11/2010 05:38:59 PM 596 Views
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The difference is webbrowsers can't be set to automatically exlude the former from web searches. - 22/11/2010 12:01:05 PM 624 Views
How many posts have there been with swear words in titles? - 22/11/2010 12:45:49 PM 504 Views
Are you telling me monitors are THAT horribly inefficient? - 22/11/2010 02:55:43 PM 656 Views
Scanning a CoC requires a human (or significantly improved parsing), whereas spidering can be dumb - 22/11/2010 03:06:19 PM 584 Views
I figured,but checking for filter subroutines seems like it would be pretty easy. - 22/11/2010 04:18:01 PM 694 Views
Subroutines such as what? - 22/11/2010 04:33:05 PM 894 Views
Well, honestly, I don't know, but I expect language filter subroutines are pretty standardized now. - 22/11/2010 08:01:07 PM 873 Views
The point is that there is nothing that a browser* will see of such a filter unless... - 23/11/2010 08:56:37 AM 569 Views
OK, but even then preventing such posts covers the contingencies while censoring none. - 23/11/2010 01:49:15 PM 611 Views
well... - 23/11/2010 04:14:51 PM 620 Views
Re: well... - 23/11/2010 05:26:14 PM 588 Views
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new people is not the same as children. *NM* - 23/11/2010 08:30:43 PM 306 Views
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I resent that. - 23/11/2010 10:09:36 PM 476 Views
Sadface. *NM* - 23/11/2010 10:12:31 PM 317 Views
... and later additions like Ghavrel? - 23/11/2010 10:24:28 PM 666 Views
188 f-bombs dropped in titles, $hit's used 142 times in titles - 22/11/2010 05:01:02 PM 590 Views
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Yea, you're helping exclude dozens, if not hundreds of potential RAFOlk. - 22/11/2010 07:42:58 PM 731 Views
Watch out. The CIA is watching you post that. And then they're going to arrest EVERYONE. - 22/11/2010 08:09:07 PM 615 Views
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A few honest answers. - 22/11/2010 10:54:30 PM 514 Views
Thanks - 22/11/2010 11:07:00 PM 526 Views
Perfectly alright. *NM* - 22/11/2010 11:12:43 PM 196 Views
A great deal of us were underage, though. - 23/11/2010 01:11:58 AM 655 Views
And look what a dirty mouth you got even without our help *NM* - 23/11/2010 08:04:06 AM 290 Views
All I can say to that is that people who think cursing on RAFO/WoTmania corrupts the youth - 23/11/2010 10:13:26 PM 553 Views
Who cares about the cursing. In other ways wotmania did probably corrupt me, though. - 23/11/2010 10:25:37 PM 602 Views
*sniggers* - 24/11/2010 02:27:22 PM 460 Views
Has anyone actually voiced that concern? - 24/11/2010 02:28:23 PM 571 Views
yes. - 22/11/2010 12:05:23 PM 508 Views
True. - 22/11/2010 06:45:58 PM 568 Views
I love how the original poster hasn't responded to any of this. - 23/11/2010 03:11:58 AM 585 Views
Probably still in shock. - 23/11/2010 01:52:01 PM 591 Views

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