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Juice is nothing but sugar and milk as healthy is debatable. everynametaken Send a noteboard - 05/11/2010 12:37:34 AM
Seriously, what's so bad about milk and juice? The sugar content in 100% juice is not a concern for a growing and active child. While I'm not a huge fan of milk, it's not really UNhealthy either. Certainly much less unhealthy than soda or sugared up psuedo-juices.

If you're defining healthy as "has no ill effects", then you're pretty much left with water (Which, btw, you can drink too much of.) So unless all you drink is water, stfu. I will include tea in that as well.

EDIT: btw, if you meant THE juice and milk are bad choices at McDonalds (i.e. not in general) then fair enough :P Their choice of milk/juice is not wise.


I don't take the question of milk as far as some anti-milkers but whether ti is even necessary in the human diet is very debatable. And juice is absolute bullshit if we're talking about the kind of say, apple juice found on grocery store shelves. It is nothing but sugar and many a parent has found their kid much better behaved and less hyper after cutting their kid(s) off of it. And whether I drink water alone (which I do drink mostly water) is irrelevant - we're talking abut kids, not adults.
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uhm, what? I said no such thing. LadyLorraine - 05/11/2010 12:33:22 PM 1036 Views
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saying something does not make it true random thoughts - 05/11/2010 12:17:00 PM 1037 Views
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You mean 3.048m (10 feet) *NM* BlackAdder - 04/11/2010 05:22:58 PM 572 Views
Yes...don't know where I got 1.038m from *NM* Colonel Logain - 05/11/2010 01:24:21 AM 599 Views
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make something idiot-proof and we'll just make better idiots... moondog - 05/11/2010 06:33:54 AM 891 Views
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it's not MUCH more healthy. LadyLorraine - 05/11/2010 12:00:31 PM 885 Views
I don't think the toy is that big of a draw for kids, really. BlackAdder - 04/11/2010 05:11:10 PM 933 Views
The toys were a definite draw for mine Helene - 05/11/2010 08:20:05 AM 978 Views
Perhaps BlackAdder - 05/11/2010 07:41:17 PM 1129 Views
You're using yourself as an example at an age when the effect will be less anyway Helene - 06/11/2010 07:11:11 AM 841 Views
Not a big fan of that decision, either. As for introducing the metric system: would be past time. Legolas - 04/11/2010 12:01:41 PM 998 Views
Here in Aus we have fruit bags, and water etc. options for Happy Meals Two Wongs - 04/11/2010 12:32:16 PM 949 Views
The healthier variety is starting to become more common in kids meals. TaskmasterJack - 04/11/2010 12:50:44 PM 1094 Views
milk or juice have ALWAYS been options, and every mcdonalds i've been to has offered the apples. *NM* LadyLorraine - 04/11/2010 01:36:34 PM 573 Views
Too bad milk and juice are horrible choices too. *NM* everynametaken - 04/11/2010 10:54:36 PM 606 Views
uhmm, bullshit. LadyLorraine - 04/11/2010 11:39:09 PM 1087 Views
Juice is nothing but sugar and milk as healthy is debatable. everynametaken - 05/11/2010 12:37:34 AM 1088 Views
juice is not just sugar. LadyLorraine - 05/11/2010 02:11:12 AM 1044 Views
Here. not the best source, but assuming the nutritionist's analyzer was correct... LadyLorraine - 05/11/2010 02:24:18 AM 1018 Views
I'm not talking about juicing vegetables and fresh fruit. everynametaken - 05/11/2010 03:06:54 AM 1004 Views
no it was not clear. You merely said "Juice" LadyLorraine - 05/11/2010 03:16:01 AM 1073 Views
Milk is delicious. And it (when low-fat/skim) isn't actively bad for you. Ghavrel - 05/11/2010 03:33:53 AM 857 Views
I know, but...just...EW. LadyLorraine - 05/11/2010 03:43:49 AM 1138 Views
but it is yummy and you make yummy things out of it random thoughts - 05/11/2010 02:47:37 PM 873 Views
I like the yummy foods made, I admit. LadyLorraine - 05/11/2010 03:35:28 PM 906 Views
Agreed, as long as it's treated the right way (i.e. not the American way). *NM* Legolas - 05/11/2010 09:56:16 AM 582 Views
Please elaborate. Avendesora - 05/11/2010 01:27:45 PM 1028 Views
I remember the first time I came to Northern America (Canada, then) and tried drinking milk... Legolas - 05/11/2010 04:44:01 PM 1082 Views
You can get UHT milk random thoughts - 05/11/2010 04:47:53 PM 920 Views
Yeah, no doubt - you can get most anything in the US, but not necessarily easily. Legolas - 05/11/2010 05:46:59 PM 1070 Views
I live in a big enough city you can get pretty much anything you want random thoughts - 05/11/2010 07:02:44 PM 846 Views
I think what you describe... Avendesora - 05/11/2010 05:21:35 PM 1058 Views
Indeed it is. Legolas - 05/11/2010 05:49:48 PM 951 Views
How about the water? everynametaken - 05/11/2010 06:24:09 PM 885 Views
No idea... didn't really notice anything there. Legolas - 05/11/2010 06:40:16 PM 1016 Views
Tap water in Philly tasted sooo much like chlorine ironclad - 08/11/2010 11:43:36 AM 1003 Views
No UHT in Scandinavia, though Lordling - 05/11/2010 06:34:17 PM 1040 Views
I remember when I lived in Germany, I found warm, boxed milk to be one of the stranger oddities. TaskmasterJack - 05/11/2010 08:57:42 PM 918 Views
Oh yeah, that UHT milk is evil. *NM* jh - 05/11/2010 09:30:35 PM 579 Views
OK. My bad. everynametaken - 05/11/2010 04:11:53 AM 1141 Views
Re: juice is not just sugar. Avendesora - 05/11/2010 01:11:06 PM 974 Views
so what do you think kids should drink? random thoughts - 05/11/2010 04:28:36 AM 1005 Views
Do this little experiment. Please. Avendesora - 05/11/2010 12:53:49 PM 885 Views
that is why my kids drinks milk or water and not juice 99% of time random thoughts - 05/11/2010 02:03:08 PM 962 Views
Of course! Avendesora - 05/11/2010 02:11:35 PM 1077 Views
I am fighting my wife right now over the yogurt in a tube crap random thoughts - 05/11/2010 02:35:41 PM 866 Views
Ha! You should do the sugar measuring with her. It'll show her how much is in that 1 little tube. *NM* Avendesora - 05/11/2010 04:00:55 PM 435 Views
Ok did some math. Avendesora - 05/11/2010 04:35:48 PM 1120 Views
she buys Horizon which is 57 grams 10 of which are sugar random thoughts - 05/11/2010 05:16:22 PM 967 Views
I'm with you on this one. *NM* Avendesora - 05/11/2010 12:37:59 PM 573 Views
it is random thoughts - 04/11/2010 02:11:44 PM 1186 Views
they have the option but i'm sure that fruit has 1200mg of sodium in it somehow *NM* moondog - 05/11/2010 06:35:36 AM 611 Views
I'm going to go set up the black market for happy meals in San Francisco. Tigr - 04/11/2010 01:21:34 PM 1027 Views
so in otherwords...Happy Meals in San Francisco don't come with toys anymore? LadyLorraine - 04/11/2010 01:38:03 PM 860 Views
This is pretty stupid. rebelaessedai - 04/11/2010 02:13:17 PM 1054 Views
That part was a bit of hyperbole, I'm afraid. *NM* Legolas - 04/11/2010 03:01:52 PM 593 Views
Not very much! Rebekah - 04/11/2010 03:04:58 PM 946 Views
And snoopcester - 04/11/2010 03:17:34 PM 1131 Views
Re: And Rebekah - 04/11/2010 03:27:12 PM 1056 Views
You know what? snoopcester - 04/11/2010 03:35:54 PM 824 Views
I feel so exploited now ironclad - 04/11/2010 03:31:26 PM 1253 Views
*dons detective hat* Very interesting... snoopcester - 04/11/2010 03:35:08 PM 859 Views
Re: *dons detective hat* Very interesting... TaskmasterJack - 04/11/2010 03:57:04 PM 1100 Views
Another hint ironclad - 04/11/2010 04:02:54 PM 1003 Views
Re: Another hint TaskmasterJack - 04/11/2010 04:23:28 PM 1045 Views
Ah, Republicans and sex scandals. They go together like beer and kebabs, snoopcester - 04/11/2010 04:29:19 PM 895 Views
So, that would make him mexican? *NM* jh - 04/11/2010 06:54:03 PM 567 Views
Hmm snoopcester - 04/11/2010 04:27:00 PM 936 Views
40 hours? Really? nossy - 06/11/2010 06:59:57 PM 1022 Views
Wow. *NM* Chas - 04/11/2010 11:56:45 PM 575 Views
No kidding. *NM* everynametaken - 05/11/2010 03:08:20 AM 558 Views
All we need is for someone else to pay for our national defense and we can do it *NM* random thoughts - 04/11/2010 04:16:28 PM 587 Views
That makes me even less likely to enjoy those last 8 hours. rebelaessedai - 09/11/2010 03:12:53 PM 885 Views
They should ban something which may have effect instead. jh - 04/11/2010 02:27:05 PM 1123 Views
The toys do have effect. It's a positive reinforcer to eating the meal. everynametaken - 04/11/2010 10:57:49 PM 831 Views
So it's back to being a small cheeseburger meal then? *NM* Balwer - 04/11/2010 02:30:34 PM 602 Views
What a bunch of morons. Wulf`gar - 04/11/2010 06:45:31 PM 1112 Views
these are the same people who keep sending Pelosi back year after year *NM* random thoughts - 04/11/2010 06:49:16 PM 441 Views
I accidentally posted this in the wrong spot. I reposted below to the original thread. everynametaken - 04/11/2010 11:22:32 PM 1054 Views
Re: Chas - 05/11/2010 12:02:41 AM 895 Views
I'm not sure what your point is. everynametaken - 05/11/2010 12:42:14 AM 857 Views
That fast food is not inherently bad/unhealthy. Chas - 05/11/2010 01:16:51 AM 1052 Views
Re: That fast food is not inherently bad/unhealthy. everynametaken - 05/11/2010 04:17:27 AM 1085 Views
In that case: Yes, there's always a new meat sack/flesh puppet around the next corner. *NM* Chas - 05/11/2010 09:38:57 PM 596 Views
Many here don't seem to understand the purpose of the toy. everynametaken - 05/11/2010 12:43:27 AM 1106 Views
I think you should assume we're not idiots Isaac - 05/11/2010 02:05:51 AM 920 Views
I never said anybody was an idiot. everynametaken - 05/11/2010 04:09:51 AM 1225 Views
kids of the happy meal age should not be deciding what they get to eat random thoughts - 05/11/2010 04:37:43 AM 1143 Views
This. Wulf`gar - 05/11/2010 02:00:32 PM 866 Views
Re: kids of the happy meal age should not be deciding what they get to eat everynametaken - 05/11/2010 06:27:21 PM 1008 Views
without a doubt parents need to be aware of marketing used to influence their kids random thoughts - 05/11/2010 07:29:06 PM 952 Views
Your overly-simplified psychology is wrong Wulf`gar - 05/11/2010 01:58:55 PM 1064 Views
raw milk is banned because of the potential of illness. LadyLorraine - 05/11/2010 06:20:01 PM 1008 Views
You miss my point (or helped me make it) Wulf`gar - 05/11/2010 07:58:59 PM 893 Views
because raw milk SALE AND DISTRIBUTION does not only affect the individual. LadyLorraine - 05/11/2010 08:37:10 PM 1191 Views
Excuse me, I have a degree in psychology and I have oversimplified nothing. everynametaken - 05/11/2010 06:42:24 PM 1165 Views
Like others have said... Wulf`gar - 05/11/2010 08:03:09 PM 1094 Views
Jesus Christ. Are you daft or what? everynametaken - 05/11/2010 11:04:41 PM 880 Views
silly rabbit, science is for suckers!! LadyLorraine - 06/11/2010 12:28:31 AM 958 Views
psychology is a pseudoscience random thoughts - 10/11/2010 07:13:52 PM 1661 Views
Well nossy - 06/11/2010 07:27:51 PM 1175 Views
As a mother of a Wongy Junior all of 9 years... Two Wongs - 08/11/2010 03:07:00 AM 1186 Views
if they wanted to have a real impact they would ban drive throughs *NM* random thoughts - 05/11/2010 04:39:52 AM 559 Views
My opinion: This is bad form. Avendesora - 05/11/2010 01:18:25 PM 1009 Views
oO but that's what's so AMAZINGLY DELICIOUS about soda.. LadyLorraine - 06/11/2010 02:02:45 AM 1015 Views
Yet again government not letting people make their own decisions dacole - 10/11/2010 03:01:15 AM 1089 Views
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