Really?
I'm happy they passed the health care reform, what I'm not happy about is how they treated the abortion issue. (Abortion isn't just abortion, it's also care for miscarriages. Or removing a dead fetus, which is actually where most of the pictures of "dead babies" come from. If it's got black spots or is wrinkled, it died in the womb.) As well as general family-friendly policies.
I'm happy they passed the health care reform, what I'm not happy about is how they treated the abortion issue. (Abortion isn't just abortion, it's also care for miscarriages. Or removing a dead fetus, which is actually where most of the pictures of "dead babies" come from. If it's got black spots or is wrinkled, it died in the womb.) As well as general family-friendly policies.
That one of the abortion procedures is to put a highly saline solution into the placenta. That kills the baby (turning it black spotted/wrinkled) and that is what you're seeing in those pictures. And contrary to your belief....abortion is abortion. Removing fetal tissue due to a misscariage isn't abortion. Its not considered one either per the law or medical practice. Why? Because there is no heartbeat. The presence of a heartbeat (typically denoting life, except in this case) puts the procedure into another catagory.
Something that you have absolutely no right to force me to pay for.
~Jeordam
Let's not bring emotions and beliefs into this. I know where you stand, I won't change your mind nor you mine. Just facts.
Why would saline solution turn the tissue black? That's decomposition.
You say: "Removing fetal tissue due to a misscariage isn't abortion. Its not considered one either per the law or medical practice." But it is considered one per health insurance regulations. Or Medicaid coverage. It's coded as D&C - it doesn't matter if there's a heartbeat or not.
John Boehner is the new Speaker of the House...
- 03/11/2010 03:55:56 AM
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How do you say his name?
- 03/11/2010 04:26:07 AM
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bay nurr *NM*
- 03/11/2010 04:26:45 AM
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borr ing! *NM*
- 03/11/2010 04:27:56 AM
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that's ok, he's a bit of a joke even without mispronouncing his name.... *NM*
- 03/11/2010 04:28:55 AM
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Böh! Ner!
- 03/11/2010 09:59:26 PM
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Apparently not. Few things are more awkward than mispronouncing your own name. 
- 03/11/2010 10:19:08 PM
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- 03/11/2010 10:19:08 PM
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My maiden name is pronounced "de roose" (to rhyme with goose)
- 03/11/2010 10:30:56 PM
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Makes sense, yeah.
- 04/11/2010 11:22:20 AM
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Re: Makes sense, yeah.
- 04/11/2010 12:01:48 PM
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Re: Makes sense, yeah.
- 04/11/2010 03:12:49 PM
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Not too far from the u in burst *NM*
- 04/11/2010 04:33:27 PM
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? Not really close unless you're mispronouncing 'burst'
- 04/11/2010 07:44:35 PM
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ö is a bit sharper, but that was the best English example I could think of
- 04/11/2010 08:22:14 PM
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Börst, yep. Or Börsday. I agree. *NM*
- 04/11/2010 09:52:07 PM
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That last one is only when you speak with a really bad French accent, though. *NM*
- 04/11/2010 10:34:18 PM
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*NM*
- 04/11/2010 10:34:18 PM
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Wtf are you people talking about?
- 05/11/2010 01:22:40 AM
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*NM*
Wikipedia to the rescue...
- 05/11/2010 10:05:53 AM
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screw that I am calling him boner *NM*
- 05/11/2010 12:31:30 PM
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Wait, you've actually called him Boner all along? That's hilarious. *NM*
- 05/11/2010 03:02:32 PM
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That sounds like his name is Boo - ner. No?
- 06/11/2010 12:46:53 AM
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If you say so.
- 06/11/2010 12:57:45 AM
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That is so weird.
- 06/11/2010 01:09:32 AM
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Where did I say anything about a y? I'm confused.
- 06/11/2010 02:12:46 AM
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You didn't. I was adding to the discussion.
- 06/11/2010 02:25:15 AM
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The way I was taught
- 06/11/2010 01:46:52 PM
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ahaha, you just wanted to see me sitting here making ridiculous faces. 
- 06/11/2010 07:43:17 PM
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- 06/11/2010 07:43:17 PM
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a portion of those pickups are tea party nut jobs though...
- 03/11/2010 04:28:19 AM
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being a nutjob hasn't hurt people like Pelosi and Franks
- 03/11/2010 06:22:01 AM
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if they are nutjobs then you really aren't as moderate as you want us to believe... *NM*
- 03/11/2010 06:40:13 AM
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sorry but they are the ones with the views outside the mainstream
- 03/11/2010 01:38:38 PM
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"the only things in the middle of the road are yellow lines and dead armadillos"
- 03/11/2010 03:09:56 PM
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You know, he does have a point - now that Angle and O'Donnell lost, how 'bout we ignore 'em? *NM*
- 03/11/2010 09:39:00 PM
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That goes both ways though, as it does with Palin but some chose to ignore
- 03/11/2010 11:42:37 PM
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True, but moondog's bringing O'Donnell up was a particularly bad non sequitur. *NM*
- 03/11/2010 11:48:31 PM
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Oh? I would have said it was a bit early to call it that - it wasn't even 24 hours since she lost
- 03/11/2010 11:59:31 PM
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The problem is she doesn't fit his argument
- 04/11/2010 02:19:26 PM
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O'Donnell seems to fit when talking about Tea Party candidates in the election. *NM*
- 04/11/2010 02:30:25 PM
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ken buck also said he did not believe in the separation of church and state
- 04/11/2010 06:14:02 AM
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it is only her distracters we see posting about her around here
- 04/11/2010 02:17:36 PM
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yes, people often post things here they find funny. This site hasn't got that much influence though
- 04/11/2010 02:25:48 PM
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I read conserative websites
- 04/11/2010 02:50:29 PM
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And yet there is clearly a market for her
- 04/11/2010 03:12:34 PM
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there is a small chunck who support her but that is all
- 04/11/2010 05:09:08 PM
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Mainstream of America, maybe. Certainly not the mainstream of the civilized world in general. *NM*
- 03/11/2010 10:58:20 PM
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why because it isn't the way Europe does it?
- 04/11/2010 02:15:21 PM
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I think your progress-meter is pointing backwards. *NM*
- 04/11/2010 09:15:10 PM
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I think yours points to far to left
- 05/11/2010 04:23:17 AM
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There's a reason liberals are also known as progressives. Modern-day conservatism is regressive. *NM*
- 05/11/2010 08:01:14 PM
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the reason liberals want to be called progressive is they have tainted to word liberal
- 06/11/2010 09:52:35 PM
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I'm glad that as a straight white Christian male, nothing will change for me. *NM*
- 03/11/2010 07:03:07 AM
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*NM*
Reid Stays, Fiorrina Loses, O Donnell Loses, Feingold Loses
- 03/11/2010 10:47:23 AM
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CNN is calling Colorado and Washington to close to call
- 03/11/2010 01:42:07 PM
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Colorado is over, and it was over when I stated this hours ago
- 03/11/2010 10:35:04 PM
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when I posted it the analyst didn't think it was over yet
- 04/11/2010 02:26:27 PM
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Even if they're behind, maybe they can pull a Franken or a Gregoire. *NM*
- 04/11/2010 12:18:15 AM
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215 votes is not the same as 13,000
- 04/11/2010 12:24:55 AM
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Oh, I know. But who knows how many cars can be found with "missing" ballots? 
*NM*
- 04/11/2010 12:30:15 AM
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*NM*
- 04/11/2010 12:30:15 AM
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I see some interesting and hopeful results in the ballot initiatives, too.
- 03/11/2010 01:52:46 PM
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And several states passing a "Constitutional right to hunt and fish" - what's up with that? *NM*
- 03/11/2010 02:06:55 PM
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Re: And several states passing a "Constitutional right to hunt and fish" - what's up with that?
- 03/11/2010 02:32:56 PM
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It was to get rid of the "double taxation" on alcohol since there was already a sizable excise tax. *NM*
- 03/11/2010 02:20:30 PM
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Ah. That makes more sense. Basically amounts to a lowering of the excise tax, then. *NM*
- 03/11/2010 02:23:42 PM
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the dog breeding one is actually fairly awful in reality, though.
- 03/11/2010 03:10:23 PM
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My sympathies, America. *NM*
- 03/11/2010 01:58:42 PM
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The only thing that I'm sad about right now is that I'm still stuck with Boxer. I *loath* that woman *NM*
- 03/11/2010 02:45:17 PM
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tell the republicans to put up a candidate who can win
- 03/11/2010 03:13:13 PM
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The tough part is finding one...
- 03/11/2010 03:22:38 PM
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Cap and Trade and Health Care are her big things due to her committees she is on
- 03/11/2010 10:54:10 PM
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Republicans aren't that kinky, most Republicans don't like machoism *NM*
- 03/11/2010 10:38:10 PM
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*NM*
- 03/11/2010 10:38:10 PM
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She saved HP
- 04/11/2010 07:11:31 PM
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saved?? the woman shipped american jobs to h1-b visas and global outsourcing
- 05/11/2010 06:26:22 AM
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Yep. I am getting considerably worried about a future president Palin now
- 03/11/2010 10:01:33 PM
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Re: Yep. I am getting considerably worried about a future president Palin now
- 03/11/2010 10:03:12 PM
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Give me a break. *NM*
- 03/11/2010 11:33:37 PM
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I am serious.
- 03/11/2010 11:35:51 PM
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And that's is why it's offensive. It's condescending. *NM*
- 05/11/2010 04:52:48 PM
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Yes
- 05/11/2010 08:20:43 PM
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I voted Republican (my candidate won) to tell the Democrats to stop taking us for granted.
- 03/11/2010 02:20:08 PM
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It doesn't really sound like your tactic would be very effective to achieve your stated goal.
- 03/11/2010 02:26:30 PM
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- 03/11/2010 02:26:30 PM
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Not ignoring women = giving you and your sister "free" stuff? 
*NM*
- 03/11/2010 02:27:59 PM
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*NM*
- 03/11/2010 02:27:59 PM
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access to health care = free stuff?
- 03/11/2010 02:38:49 PM
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You do realize....
- 03/11/2010 02:49:16 PM
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Bureacracy vs. ideology
- 03/11/2010 07:00:04 PM
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Edit (ignore this please)
- 03/11/2010 11:06:21 PM
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You have access to health care right now.
- 03/11/2010 02:52:30 PM
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I was curious about that too
- 03/11/2010 03:11:29 PM
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Yeah, I didn't want to get all personal with it. It just didn't make sense to me is all. *shrugs*
- 03/11/2010 03:12:43 PM
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Women are the Democrats core constituency? I've always wondered who they represent.
- 03/11/2010 05:03:18 PM
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Just about every political poll will show you women vote more Democratic than men do.
- 03/11/2010 05:13:17 PM
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That's my point. A lot of categories of people vote Democrat more often than not.
- 03/11/2010 05:24:33 PM
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Which is my thoughts as well
- 03/11/2010 08:20:32 PM
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"Core constituencies", or constituencies in general, is about averages - can't predict any one voter
- 03/11/2010 08:59:40 PM
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Yeah, it's true they don't really focus on them more than on men - how would one do that, anyway?
- 03/11/2010 09:00:31 PM
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Still registered in SI?
- 03/11/2010 05:26:02 PM
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I am sorry but this logic is stupid even when Amy Gardner (Mary Louise Parker) explained it *NM*
- 03/11/2010 11:01:29 PM
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Oh, and since nobody has commented on it yet: hurray for Chafee being back!
- 03/11/2010 09:40:30 PM
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I was pretty unhappy that our senator became our governor.
- 04/11/2010 12:06:57 AM
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Yes, well, Lincoln Chafee is rather different from Sam Brownback.
- 04/11/2010 11:24:28 AM
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- 04/11/2010 11:24:28 AM
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you're not familiar with Holland because he hasn't been in politics THAT much
- 04/11/2010 02:13:46 PM
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Does that mean you're not going to vote for him when he runs for president again? *NM*
- 04/11/2010 04:44:11 PM
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*NM*
- 04/11/2010 04:44:11 PM
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I don't think I'll still be in the US, come next election
- 04/11/2010 06:02:28 PM
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Erm, how about 2012? *NM*
- 04/11/2010 06:13:56 PM
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*NM*
- 04/11/2010 06:13:56 PM
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lol yah. math fail everyone keeps saying "two more years", so I suppose I added two to 12
- 04/11/2010 11:47:45 PM
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everyone keeps saying "two more years", so I suppose I added two to 12
- 04/11/2010 11:47:45 PM
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and boo that Reid kept his job
- 04/11/2010 06:48:14 PM
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he should at least no longer be majority leader after his bungling the last 6 years... *NM*
- 05/11/2010 06:21:13 AM
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if Feingold had been majority leader he would probably still have seat
- 05/11/2010 02:57:54 PM
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Re: if Feingold had been majority leader he would probably still have seat
- 05/11/2010 03:34:05 PM
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