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I know a few words here and there, but not really. Do you? Zalis Send a noteboard - 14/10/2010 10:46:36 PM
If so I think you are being dismissive of something you can't speak about on an textural level; you are only basing your decisions on faith; that is no better or worse than the Gay Christians basing their decisions on faith.

Edit: Forgot to put the negation word in my sentence.


If you do not, at the risk of sounding snide, are you searching to accept something you can't speak about on a textural level?

I know a few folks who do, though, and have no problem asking for their input on the claims. Like I said, however - there's good reason that this is a pretty minimal claim in comparison to the totality of scripture and Christianity as a whole. The theology associated with it is largely of a liberal bent, which has a habit of downplaying scriptural truth and justifying misbehavior.
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Love the Sinner Roland00 - 13/10/2010 04:07:28 PM 1182 Views
I have to think about that for a while. nossy - 13/10/2010 04:30:56 PM 715 Views
Suicide is significantly higher in young gay populations Roland00 - 13/10/2010 05:36:01 PM 654 Views
That is not what I think requires thought nossy - 13/10/2010 05:56:06 PM 658 Views
Nossy I ain't a mind reader, no matter how I try or how much I would do Jean Grey Roland00 - 13/10/2010 06:06:42 PM 789 Views
for ze record nossy - 14/10/2010 02:54:07 AM 679 Views
ok now show that it caused by what Christian beliefs *NM* random thoughts - 13/10/2010 06:50:32 PM 341 Views
I don't think it's the belief's themselves LadyLorraine - 14/10/2010 12:20:01 AM 699 Views
The churches who encourage people to bully gays should be condemned random thoughts - 14/10/2010 06:43:06 PM 688 Views
Re: I have to think about that for a while. Rebekah - 13/10/2010 06:29:09 PM 683 Views
He was very frank but completely founded Fox and Ravens - 13/10/2010 04:34:46 PM 751 Views
Ah, that Ghandi quote sure does get around. (which is funny, since he wasn't a Christian) Zalis - 13/10/2010 05:07:42 PM 776 Views
I'm not sure that is true snoopcester - 13/10/2010 05:16:30 PM 661 Views
When's the last time you heard the quote attributed to anyone else? Zalis - 13/10/2010 08:34:10 PM 636 Views
That many people don't know the correct origin doesn't change it though snoopcester - 13/10/2010 09:31:13 PM 787 Views
I think you are missing his point Roland00 - 13/10/2010 05:45:45 PM 742 Views
Question (and this one actually is asking for information )... Legolas - 13/10/2010 06:42:17 PM 574 Views
Yes and no Roland00 - 13/10/2010 06:53:26 PM 835 Views
Okay, fair enough. *NM* Legolas - 13/10/2010 07:48:21 PM 303 Views
I would think... damookster - 14/10/2010 04:35:31 AM 732 Views
I have seen gays be bullied before random thoughts - 13/10/2010 07:02:35 PM 768 Views
You just didn't listen to a thing I said *NM* Roland00 - 13/10/2010 07:09:29 PM 302 Views
why do you believe that? Because I don't agree with what you said? random thoughts - 13/10/2010 07:30:27 PM 687 Views
I said you aren't listening to a thing I said, for you didn't respond to anything that I wrote Roland00 - 13/10/2010 07:52:50 PM 668 Views
you are not interested in talking to anyone who doesn't agree with you random thoughts - 13/10/2010 09:01:03 PM 658 Views
I think there's truth in this as well. Legolas - 13/10/2010 07:55:00 PM 711 Views
churches tend to refelect society as much if not more then they influence it random thoughts - 14/10/2010 07:15:35 PM 682 Views
Re: I think you are missing his point Zalis - 13/10/2010 08:30:42 PM 742 Views
Re: I think you are missing his point Roland00 - 13/10/2010 09:55:52 PM 750 Views
Re: I think you are missing his point Zalis - 14/10/2010 03:49:14 PM 736 Views
Actually you can very much debate whether homosexuality is a sin on a textual level Roland00 - 14/10/2010 05:49:22 PM 767 Views
Re: Actually you can very much debate whether homosexuality is a sin on a textual level Zalis - 14/10/2010 08:52:24 PM 777 Views
Do you know greek or hebrew? Roland00 - 14/10/2010 08:57:32 PM 636 Views
I know a few words here and there, but not really. Do you? Zalis - 14/10/2010 10:46:36 PM 762 Views
There's a good case on both sides (try Strong's Concordance, if you haven't, btw. ) Joel - 15/10/2010 05:09:21 AM 1181 Views
I don't look to Christianity for my answers Roland00 - 15/10/2010 03:02:16 PM 742 Views
Re: I don't look to Christianity for my answers Zalis - 15/10/2010 04:27:25 PM 780 Views
You're kind of sidestepping a large part of his point Rowland - 13/10/2010 05:51:53 PM 786 Views
so should Christians abandon other religious conviction to stop bullying? random thoughts - 13/10/2010 07:39:54 PM 685 Views
Re: You're kind of sidestepping a large part of his point Zalis - 13/10/2010 08:23:07 PM 706 Views
That seems a little myopic to me. Joel - 14/10/2010 09:16:27 AM 697 Views
Many good points there; I think I'll let you play Defender of the Faith for a bit. Joel - 14/10/2010 08:50:23 AM 780 Views
I think he is jackass that does not believe other's can have apoint of view random thoughts - 13/10/2010 06:48:12 PM 679 Views
That's right, bullying would go away if we didn't have Christians to make moral judgements on things ßelals Girl - 13/10/2010 08:11:27 PM 769 Views
I mostly agree ironclad - 13/10/2010 08:19:00 PM 836 Views
most of the bullies I remember from school were not known for their regular church attendance random thoughts - 14/10/2010 07:24:06 PM 647 Views
I thought I pretty much agreed with you on that point ironclad - 14/10/2010 07:44:07 PM 709 Views
Let me see if I can understand where we agree, it is hard to do with all the Sarcasm Roland00 - 13/10/2010 08:48:38 PM 719 Views
Meh. He's not entirely incorrect. But not all Christians are anti-gay. Ghavrel - 13/10/2010 08:43:04 PM 742 Views
It is better to be a Tolkein than a Token Roland00 - 13/10/2010 08:52:09 PM 713 Views
If I were a Tolkien liberal Christian, wouldn't that make me an American Roman Catholic? *NM* Ghavrel - 13/10/2010 09:18:57 PM 280 Views
Interesting scalius - 13/10/2010 08:56:46 PM 1001 Views
Sometime rants do work and change people's mind Roland00 - 13/10/2010 09:23:39 PM 596 Views
and sometoimes they are just rants *NM* random thoughts - 13/10/2010 10:01:55 PM 282 Views
Okay my response now Roland00 - 14/10/2010 06:04:02 PM 735 Views
His first three sentences were totally unecessary. The rest is conspiracy-laden nonsense. everynametaken - 14/10/2010 12:37:06 AM 765 Views
He becomes what he hates. eucatastrophe - 14/10/2010 02:40:19 AM 861 Views
Good stuff. *NM* Aeryn - 14/10/2010 02:56:44 AM 304 Views
Re: Gaps - 14/10/2010 03:06:36 AM 753 Views
I think Chora has dibs on that bumper sticker. Joel - 14/10/2010 09:35:02 AM 818 Views
Re: Gaps - 14/10/2010 11:50:04 PM 761 Views
It's nothing at all like cultural relativism. Joel - 15/10/2010 01:16:10 AM 663 Views
Re: It's nothing at all like cultural relativism. Gaps - 16/10/2010 05:20:56 AM 778 Views
Re: It's nothing at all like cultural relativism. Joel - 16/10/2010 07:16:21 AM 693 Views
I don't think there is any question... damookster - 14/10/2010 04:42:45 AM 714 Views
If I may quibble: Ghavrel - 14/10/2010 05:22:22 AM 541 Views
A lot of Christian doctrine states that people cannot know who is worthy of God and it's not up to Helene - 14/10/2010 05:41:19 AM 711 Views
And a lot of Christians who should know better forget this. Joel - 14/10/2010 10:16:51 AM 761 Views
He's bullying Christians Helene - 14/10/2010 04:47:13 AM 694 Views
I agree BlackAdder - 14/10/2010 04:09:23 PM 791 Views
I think he's reading a lot of things into that letter that aren't there. Joel - 14/10/2010 08:22:13 AM 663 Views
Two seperate things are mingled here Bramhodoulos - 14/10/2010 09:50:42 AM 896 Views
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