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I sure hope you're right. Joel Send a noteboard - 14/10/2010 05:04:26 AM
Or something.


what your standing was on wotmania doesn't matter any more.


I disagree. I consider each person's perception as a RAFOnaut to be a continuation of their wotmania history. If you spent 8 to 10 years at wotmania and you've now been visiting RAFO for over a year, people will judge you for the 9 to 11 years of content you've contributed and relationships you've been a part of. Not just the previous one year. You can add onto your history from the previous site, but not erase it. RAFO didn't give everyone a fresh slate in which all preconceived notions about them were abandoned. Not to say people can't be forgiven for who they were, have their levels or respect rise or fall, but that could be true of a person's 8th year at wotmania compared to their 5th as much as it would their first year at RAFO compared to their last at wotmania.

So to say that who you were at wotmania doesn't matter or is invalidated by RAFO's existence is false. If someone who was a recognized veteran of wotmania were to post on RAFO for the first time tomorrow, we would all embrace them as who we knew them to be.

'Cos, well, I'm kind of a :censored: a lot of the time now. I'm not sure why, but I know I choose my words less carefully and am less inclined to give people the benefit. Maybe too much of the happy warrior, been in enough online arguments they've become an end in themselves. Maybe the stuff that went down the last year of wotmania pissed me off more than I'm willing to admit even to myself.

I know if it were as simple as just creating a chat I wouldn't be worried about it. ;) There's a big part of me that wouldn't mind going back to '05; my uncle and four more of my dogs were still alive. That ain't how life works though, and it may be time we all came to terms with the fact that while we may have left the problems unique to wotmania, we brought those of our own making with us to RAFO.

For the record and what it's worth, I agree with both of you to some extent. RAFO allowed the opportunity to shake up the hierarchy a bit; old Admins left or became users, and new Admins took their place, so there was more give and take and a lot more chances to try new things since we were writing a new playbook. On the other hand, like you say, people aren't just going to forget years of personal interaction at wotmania, hence there were a few minor instances of people comparing length (of membership, geez! :P)
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I've already had several days like that. Yet people keep insisting RAFO is better without chat. *NM* - 10/10/2010 05:29:46 PM 347 Views
it depends which chat we get. - 10/10/2010 05:44:58 PM 546 Views
You're in the Skype Chat now, btw. - 10/10/2010 10:59:24 PM 473 Views
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Which they could easily do with Skype and get voice, yet no one does. - 10/10/2010 10:56:55 PM 643 Views
The idea of voice chat creeps me out on so many levels *NM* - 11/10/2010 12:34:22 AM 601 Views
So don't do voice; we rarely do. - 11/10/2010 07:35:33 AM 599 Views
Same *NM* - 11/10/2010 09:40:29 AM 248 Views
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Come and find out *NM* - 11/10/2010 10:48:56 PM 220 Views
The group that is popularized as being a part of that is not enticing to long standing wotmaniacs. *NM* - 11/10/2010 03:29:57 AM 358 Views
This. *NM* - 11/10/2010 04:43:52 AM 212 Views
Then that, again, seems a problem that coding can't solve. - 11/10/2010 07:33:32 AM 636 Views
I don't think most want to download another program when they had it so easy before. - 11/10/2010 10:39:55 PM 655 Views
Honestly, I think the "one time event" is the biggest problem. - 12/10/2010 04:20:04 AM 653 Views
I disagree. I don't think enough people think it worth the effort to deal with Skype. - 12/10/2010 04:28:21 AM 563 Views
What effort? - 12/10/2010 04:38:42 AM 542 Views
The effort beyond clicking two buttons. - 13/10/2010 04:25:57 AM 424 Views
Install, make a SN and search for people you email. - 13/10/2010 04:43:09 AM 600 Views
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Then where are they? - 13/10/2010 04:00:46 AM 510 Views
You have a faulty memory. Chat was incredibly active as late as 2007. - 13/10/2010 04:24:25 AM 572 Views
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Incorrect - 13/10/2010 04:58:30 AM 587 Views
Initially only the person who started it can boot. - 13/10/2010 05:12:27 AM 652 Views
Re: Initially only the person who started it can boot. - 13/10/2010 02:45:50 PM 533 Views
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oops, sorry about that. *NM* - 13/10/2010 03:42:33 PM 476 Views
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So? - 14/10/2010 04:52:37 AM 591 Views
Are you deliberately trying to not understand? - 14/10/2010 05:54:16 AM 707 Views
Not deliberately. - 14/10/2010 06:21:09 AM 602 Views
I doubt that as well, frankly. *NM* - 13/10/2010 03:32:33 PM 263 Views
Things aren't what they used to be... - 13/10/2010 10:46:04 PM 523 Views
No - 13/10/2010 04:45:29 AM 496 Views
"Unmoderated" would be going too far. - 13/10/2010 04:53:19 AM 637 Views
Most of the group consists of long-standing Wotmaniacs, so. *NM* - 12/10/2010 05:25:39 AM 322 Views
I probably didn't phrase that right. Maybe an -er after long and an "in good" before standing. - 12/10/2010 11:02:30 PM 607 Views
Also, what qualifies as "good standing"? Who's the judge? *NM* - 13/10/2010 05:36:23 AM 367 Views
The one who wants to chat, of course? *NM* - 13/10/2010 07:23:15 AM 322 Views
Jonte is right. The judges are numerous. Each with their own motivations and interests. *NM* - 13/10/2010 11:10:04 PM 298 Views
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Colorful. You big, gay elitist. *NM* - 14/10/2010 12:06:14 AM 329 Views
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we are Rafonauts now. - 13/10/2010 03:16:32 PM 467 Views
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I sure hope you're right. - 14/10/2010 05:04:26 AM 646 Views
I am RAFOlk. - 14/10/2010 06:22:25 AM 488 Views
When I got facebook I stopped logging in to aim. - 11/10/2010 01:24:26 AM 510 Views
There's a Chat if you want one. - 10/10/2010 11:01:57 PM 627 Views
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Ditto. - 10/10/2010 11:53:32 PM 534 Views
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do you know how hard it is stopping sports fanatics talking about sports? - 11/10/2010 09:59:56 AM 614 Views
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I'd deign to chat with you, m'friend. *NM* - 13/10/2010 11:43:13 PM 293 Views
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While I'm passing through, "Hi wooly and Kit. Long time." *NM* - 14/10/2010 10:14:49 PM 332 Views

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