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Yes and no Roland00 Send a noteboard - 13/10/2010 06:53:26 PM
While their is data on people that attempted suicide and the connection with bullying, to my knowledge their is no rigorous scientific study that asked a person before they committed suicide if they are gay/bi/queer/questioning/whatever and whether they were bullied. I bet you can understand why the later is hard to prove ;)

As for studies right in front of me, do I have the studies and links in front of me that I can add to the discussion, no I do not. I ain't going to waste my time looking for them, for while they do exist, I don't believe they really add to the discussion. There are multiple problems with these social science studies, for example on the wikipedia link different studies had the gay male suicide rates with different results by a factor six. Furthermore as the wikipedia link I posted in response to nossy showed what is applicable to the general population is not applicable to specific groups for black gay men have a suicide rate that increases when they get older instead of decreases (in other words culture matters.) Finally there is no definite answer on how much the population is gay, bi, trans, etc.

Thus in sum these social science studies prove nothing. They may introduce what is possible a casual link, but they prove nothing. That said I think it is safe to say both sides of the discussion probably assume bullying of gay people or people perceived as different leads to a greater risk of suicide.

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Another thing most young teenagers aren't a 100% sure of their sexuality and how to define it, even if they are 100% sure about all the details doesn't mean they want to communicate it to the survey taker (or even know how to translate the thoughts into words) and most social science studies address this.
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Love the Sinner - 13/10/2010 04:07:28 PM 1183 Views
I have to think about that for a while. - 13/10/2010 04:30:56 PM 715 Views
Suicide is significantly higher in young gay populations - 13/10/2010 05:36:01 PM 655 Views
That is not what I think requires thought - 13/10/2010 05:56:06 PM 658 Views
Nossy I ain't a mind reader, no matter how I try or how much I would do Jean Grey - 13/10/2010 06:06:42 PM 789 Views
for ze record - 14/10/2010 02:54:07 AM 679 Views
ok now show that it caused by what Christian beliefs *NM* - 13/10/2010 06:50:32 PM 341 Views
I don't think it's the belief's themselves - 14/10/2010 12:20:01 AM 699 Views
The churches who encourage people to bully gays should be condemned - 14/10/2010 06:43:06 PM 690 Views
Re: I have to think about that for a while. - 13/10/2010 06:29:09 PM 683 Views
He was very frank but completely founded - 13/10/2010 04:34:46 PM 751 Views
Ah, that Ghandi quote sure does get around. (which is funny, since he wasn't a Christian) - 13/10/2010 05:07:42 PM 776 Views
I'm not sure that is true - 13/10/2010 05:16:30 PM 661 Views
I think you are missing his point - 13/10/2010 05:45:45 PM 742 Views
Question (and this one actually is asking for information )... - 13/10/2010 06:42:17 PM 575 Views
Yes and no - 13/10/2010 06:53:26 PM 836 Views
Okay, fair enough. *NM* - 13/10/2010 07:48:21 PM 303 Views
I would think... - 14/10/2010 04:35:31 AM 732 Views
I have seen gays be bullied before - 13/10/2010 07:02:35 PM 768 Views
You just didn't listen to a thing I said *NM* - 13/10/2010 07:09:29 PM 302 Views
I think there's truth in this as well. - 13/10/2010 07:55:00 PM 711 Views
churches tend to refelect society as much if not more then they influence it - 14/10/2010 07:15:35 PM 683 Views
Re: I think you are missing his point - 13/10/2010 08:30:42 PM 742 Views
Re: I think you are missing his point - 13/10/2010 09:55:52 PM 750 Views
Re: I think you are missing his point - 14/10/2010 03:49:14 PM 736 Views
Actually you can very much debate whether homosexuality is a sin on a textual level - 14/10/2010 05:49:22 PM 768 Views
Re: Actually you can very much debate whether homosexuality is a sin on a textual level - 14/10/2010 08:52:24 PM 778 Views
Do you know greek or hebrew? - 14/10/2010 08:57:32 PM 636 Views
I know a few words here and there, but not really. Do you? - 14/10/2010 10:46:36 PM 763 Views
I don't look to Christianity for my answers - 15/10/2010 03:02:16 PM 742 Views
Re: I don't look to Christianity for my answers - 15/10/2010 04:27:25 PM 780 Views
You're kind of sidestepping a large part of his point - 13/10/2010 05:51:53 PM 786 Views
so should Christians abandon other religious conviction to stop bullying? - 13/10/2010 07:39:54 PM 686 Views
Re: You're kind of sidestepping a large part of his point - 13/10/2010 08:23:07 PM 706 Views
That seems a little myopic to me. - 14/10/2010 09:16:27 AM 698 Views
I think he is jackass that does not believe other's can have apoint of view - 13/10/2010 06:48:12 PM 680 Views
That's right, bullying would go away if we didn't have Christians to make moral judgements on things - 13/10/2010 08:11:27 PM 769 Views
I mostly agree - 13/10/2010 08:19:00 PM 836 Views
most of the bullies I remember from school were not known for their regular church attendance - 14/10/2010 07:24:06 PM 647 Views
I thought I pretty much agreed with you on that point - 14/10/2010 07:44:07 PM 709 Views
Interesting - 13/10/2010 08:56:46 PM 1001 Views
Sometime rants do work and change people's mind - 13/10/2010 09:23:39 PM 596 Views
and sometoimes they are just rants *NM* - 13/10/2010 10:01:55 PM 282 Views
Okay my response now - 14/10/2010 06:04:02 PM 736 Views
He becomes what he hates. - 14/10/2010 02:40:19 AM 861 Views
Good stuff. *NM* - 14/10/2010 02:56:44 AM 304 Views
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I think Chora has dibs on that bumper sticker. - 14/10/2010 09:35:02 AM 818 Views
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It's nothing at all like cultural relativism. - 15/10/2010 01:16:10 AM 663 Views
Re: It's nothing at all like cultural relativism. - 16/10/2010 05:20:56 AM 778 Views
Re: It's nothing at all like cultural relativism. - 16/10/2010 07:16:21 AM 693 Views
I don't think there is any question... - 14/10/2010 04:42:45 AM 714 Views
If I may quibble: - 14/10/2010 05:22:22 AM 541 Views
He's bullying Christians - 14/10/2010 04:47:13 AM 694 Views
I agree - 14/10/2010 04:09:23 PM 792 Views
Two seperate things are mingled here - 14/10/2010 09:50:42 AM 896 Views

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