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You should Larry Send a noteboard - 13/10/2010 03:10:13 AM
Insularity stifles interaction and creativity. At times, the level of discussion at this site is in variety akin to three generations' worth of incestual unions gathering together for a country dance. If it weren't for say a half-dozen people (I'm maybe being too generous with that number), then how long would it take for the hoi polloi here to become aware of certain emerging trends in fiction? Since I never posted about it here, but I bet no more than 2-3 at this site even know that I'm up for an award that will be awarded at the Capclave Convention in two weeks and that is minor in comparison to knowing which are the "hottest" books of the past couple of years

I'm not sure that's a very fair criticism of the people of this site. I think it's a fair criticism of the activity, but there are a number of people who for whatever reason choose not to partake in the discussions about the emerging trends, etc, even though they are quite well versed in those subjects.


Most of those I've seen who are aware of discussions and "hot topics" elsewhere appear to be those who are only secondarily active at this site compared to others they initiate and/or participate. All I have to do is point to the anemic participation in the recent awards thread at the Books MB and the excuses given.

I suppose I might just be remembering the good old days on the OF boards. Maybe I should venture around those parts more often and join in the discussions. I might have something interesting to contribute from time to time.


For me, the "good old days" were 2002-2004. After that, some things happened (or rather, didn't happen) and stagnation set in. Some of it was my fault (changing jobs several times, other commitments), some of it was Mike's, and some was just a few key posters leaving in one form or the other. I remember thinking ten new posts a day was a slow day on a three day viewing setting. Now there are days when there aren't even ten active non-stickied threads at the three day setting
Illusions fall like the husk of a fruit, one after another, and the fruit is experience. - Narrator, Sylvie

Je suis méchant.
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>: [ So apparently none of us were good enough for wotmania.... LadyLorraine - 09/10/2010 08:33:46 PM 2146 Views
That's pretty rank. Rebekah - 09/10/2010 08:36:02 PM 1326 Views
I want to know more about this! Lord Gaidin - 09/10/2010 08:36:02 PM 1187 Views
I know! I don't understand why they're using the wotmania domain name for this... jiggy - 09/10/2010 09:45:26 PM 1231 Views
Re: I want to know more about this! TaskmasterJack - 09/10/2010 10:32:24 PM 1167 Views
What the hell ironclad - 09/10/2010 10:51:32 PM 1202 Views
wrong spot, sorry *NM* ironclad - 10/10/2010 12:57:07 AM 534 Views
I guess Jason offered a lot of money then? *NM* Stephen - 09/10/2010 08:41:09 PM 635 Views
We were told it was about the "trust" that the wotmania members had put in Mike by signing up. *NM* LiterateDog - 09/10/2010 08:46:11 PM 481 Views
Indeed. Imagine this has quashed any vestiges of good feeling towards the man. *NM* Rebekah - 09/10/2010 08:47:12 PM 673 Views
Yeah, I wasn't overly angry with Mike before, but that's changed *NM* Stephen - 09/10/2010 08:58:51 PM 636 Views
Someone had already pointed this out in the other thread from a while back. It's bullshit. LiterateDog - 09/10/2010 08:48:27 PM 1110 Views
Huh. I completely missed that. Rebekah - 09/10/2010 08:49:52 PM 1289 Views
I bet you say that a lot, Beks. *NM* LiterateDog - 09/10/2010 09:01:22 PM 681 Views
Are you saying I need glasses? Rebekah - 09/10/2010 09:02:28 PM 1111 Views
Sure....it's the lack of glasses.... *smirk* LiterateDog - 09/10/2010 09:23:12 PM 1159 Views
I'm glad you changed that. Rebekah - 09/10/2010 09:05:25 PM 1198 Views
I changed it right after I posted it! LiterateDog - 09/10/2010 09:22:38 PM 1213 Views
nonsense. I will indulge in my internet RIGHT to nerdrage!!! *NM* LadyLorraine - 09/10/2010 08:50:46 PM 650 Views
Oh, I'm not saying don't be mad over it and don't talk about it. LiterateDog - 09/10/2010 08:58:47 PM 1248 Views
yah, much as I don't like it, I can't be mad at Dragonmount. LadyLorraine - 09/10/2010 09:01:04 PM 1150 Views
I don't know; pretty sure a redirect page isn't terribly rough on the servers. *NM* Ghavrel - 09/10/2010 09:13:58 PM 562 Views
Of course it isn't, but he didn't have to do it. LiterateDog - 09/10/2010 09:21:14 PM 1155 Views
The dragonmount wotmania landing page with the redirect is still accesible if you google wotmania *NM* Stephen - 09/10/2010 09:37:16 PM 3706 Views
An orphan page isn't going to do us much good. *NM* LiterateDog - 09/10/2010 09:41:36 PM 623 Views
I like going over this again and again Camilla - 09/10/2010 10:37:43 PM 1198 Views
Truthfully (and I'm sure I've expressed some of this before at one point or another)... Mats Gambling Buddy - 11/10/2010 10:40:44 PM 1011 Views
That's a little bit bum! jiggy - 09/10/2010 09:01:21 PM 1011 Views
Yes snoopcester - 10/10/2010 12:23:08 AM 1243 Views
Dear Snoop. jiggy - 10/10/2010 08:56:06 AM 1305 Views
Dear Mr. J Jiggyson snoopcester - 10/10/2010 04:18:19 PM 1105 Views
For what it's worth, after A Memory of Light comes out Dragonmount will go down like a rock. Tom - 09/10/2010 09:44:27 PM 1238 Views
good point, but that doesn't make me feel better about Mike being an ass *NM* LadyLorraine - 09/10/2010 09:46:18 PM 553 Views
Oddly it makes me feel better. He has a point. "Read and Find Out" is a timeless name. Tashmere - 10/10/2010 12:14:29 AM 1030 Views
Right, like Planet Tolkien did after the Silmarillion. Joel - 10/10/2010 02:28:01 AM 1144 Views
I essentially totally disagree with everything you said and its underlying premises. *NM* Tom - 10/10/2010 05:36:01 AM 617 Views
I know. Joel - 10/10/2010 05:58:59 AM 975 Views
Amen! *NM* everynametaken - 10/10/2010 03:02:13 AM 657 Views
I hate capitalism! Gaps - 09/10/2010 11:38:38 PM 1146 Views
Has anyone asked Jason why he did this? Two Wongs - 09/10/2010 11:50:53 PM 1128 Views
Wait, I don't understand cmdjing - 10/10/2010 12:02:54 AM 1298 Views
Mike wanted to move on with his life Roland00 - 10/10/2010 04:17:45 AM 1179 Views
I just messaged dragonmount on twitter! Zeeb - 10/10/2010 12:02:56 AM 1036 Views
sure as hell fuckin' better. *NM* LadyLorraine - 10/10/2010 01:41:18 AM 690 Views
<3 Two Wongs - 10/10/2010 02:45:46 AM 1149 Views
But but but but! Sareitha Sedai - 10/10/2010 03:45:54 AM 1149 Views
Two Wongs - 10/10/2010 05:33:06 AM 1102 Views
I'm not a member of dragonmount or any of their extensions. LadyLorraine - 10/10/2010 08:40:08 AM 1119 Views
Bloody Hell! majander - 12/10/2010 08:52:14 AM 1216 Views
Cor blimey! Two Wongs - 12/10/2010 11:31:47 AM 1433 Views
Why would he name his movie site wotmania? *NM* Tashmere - 10/10/2010 12:12:09 AM 608 Views
He might have picked it as it has some recognition in the area he is making films snoopcester - 10/10/2010 12:25:52 AM 1049 Views
He didn't, it just redirects there. And judging by the Twitter comment that wasn't on purpose. *NM* Legolas - 10/10/2010 12:57:04 AM 651 Views
Never mind me. *NM* everynametaken - 10/10/2010 03:04:38 AM 733 Views
Hm. That's special. nossy - 10/10/2010 01:38:58 AM 1057 Views
I'm not angry at anyone. Wotmania died aug 2009. StarrBecca - 10/10/2010 02:04:57 AM 998 Views
It doesn't matter *why* it was wrong, it just was Two Wongs - 10/10/2010 02:54:07 AM 1063 Views
Point taken. And I am sorry for the loss of Wotmania, the way it used to be. StarrBecca - 10/10/2010 08:15:59 AM 1071 Views
*throws chocolate fudge at you* Two Wongs - 10/10/2010 11:34:42 AM 1033 Views
*returns fire w/ Marshmallow shooter!!* StarrBecca - 10/10/2010 01:32:10 PM 1134 Views
*opens mouth* Two Wongs - 12/10/2010 01:51:51 PM 1071 Views
Um, sure that's a good idea...? Morambar - 16/10/2010 01:08:57 PM 1088 Views
This is how I feel. Avendesora - 10/10/2010 03:30:30 PM 1107 Views
Amen. *NM* StarrBecca - 10/10/2010 03:34:38 PM 543 Views
Hahahaha it's fixed Zeeb - 10/10/2010 04:00:11 AM 1221 Views
Reply posted from my iPhone! *NM* Avendesora - 10/10/2010 12:56:22 PM 668 Views
Re: >: [ So apparently none of us were good enough for wotmania.... Jason - 10/10/2010 05:33:00 AM 1226 Views
Hi guys. *NM* Jason - 10/10/2010 05:33:25 AM 509 Views
Ugh. Apparently I have no idea how to use this forum. LOL. *NM* Jason - 10/10/2010 05:33:57 AM 618 Views
Thanks for fixing it Jason *NM* @my - 10/10/2010 05:47:31 AM 681 Views
Too much bitterness yet. Joel - 10/10/2010 06:11:42 AM 1100 Views
Well... Larry - 10/10/2010 06:47:49 AM 1209 Views
I guess maybe that's fair. Joel - 10/10/2010 06:55:07 AM 1110 Views
Insularity has been a problem for years now Larry - 10/10/2010 07:23:10 AM 1102 Views
Re: Insularity has been a problem for years now Brian - 10/10/2010 05:44:27 PM 1123 Views
I don't think most are well-versed, unfortunately Larry - 10/10/2010 06:52:49 PM 908 Views
Fair enough Brian - 10/10/2010 08:03:19 PM 1024 Views
Hah! Rebekah - 10/10/2010 08:04:24 PM 1087 Views
You should Larry - 13/10/2010 03:10:13 AM 981 Views
Attraction and Retention Two Wongs - 14/10/2010 08:40:34 AM 1347 Views
*reads this with her seven eyes on her five heads* Two Wongs - 14/10/2010 08:29:51 AM 1026 Views
With apologies for the delay. Joel - 16/10/2010 12:22:44 PM 986 Views
Re: Well... Camilla - 10/10/2010 11:05:57 AM 1039 Views
Please hurry. Joel - 16/10/2010 12:43:09 PM 1033 Views
Dear Jason: LadyLorraine - 10/10/2010 08:44:47 AM 1068 Views
This. Camilla - 10/10/2010 11:27:36 AM 1471 Views
I don't agree. Two Wongs - 10/10/2010 11:40:25 AM 1146 Views
Re: I don't agree. Camilla - 10/10/2010 11:44:05 AM 1166 Views
There is email... Or the Dragonmount forums... Two Wongs - 10/10/2010 11:53:42 AM 990 Views
Agreed. Joel - 16/10/2010 01:21:50 PM 1133 Views
You agree with sense, sir Two Wongs - 17/10/2010 06:33:48 AM 1391 Views
Always, wise Wongers, always. Joel - 17/10/2010 06:35:33 PM 1256 Views
this is why I did not. LadyLorraine - 10/10/2010 04:42:04 PM 975 Views
I agree. nossy - 10/10/2010 01:52:27 PM 945 Views
And now Jason is free to make his own choices with the domain... *NM* Two Wongs - 12/10/2010 11:30:54 AM 599 Views
Yes. nossy - 13/10/2010 12:14:07 AM 1115 Views
Never fear WONGERS is here!! Two Wongs - 14/10/2010 09:07:44 AM 1235 Views
awesome smiley nossy - 14/10/2010 02:17:08 PM 1102 Views
Thanks for the explanation, Jason! jiggy - 10/10/2010 08:50:40 AM 1268 Views
Hi Two Wongs - 10/10/2010 11:38:13 AM 1238 Views
Re: Hi jiggy - 10/10/2010 01:29:48 PM 1298 Views
Unless someone is willing to buy the domain or he's willing to sell it, it's his. Avendesora - 10/10/2010 03:35:23 PM 996 Views
Stupid browser cache! Two Wongs - 11/10/2010 03:01:09 PM 1213 Views
Frankly, I agree, but having heard the arguments the other way, I can see that side. Joel - 16/10/2010 02:08:08 PM 1354 Views
Thank you for coming here and clearing things up snoopcester - 10/10/2010 04:50:03 PM 1167 Views
Very well said. Joel - 16/10/2010 02:11:09 PM 1116 Views
Classy response, Jason. Thank you for taking the time to let us know what was happening. Tashmere - 10/10/2010 06:46:32 PM 1018 Views
I second what both LadyLorraine and jiggy said above. *NM* Tim - 10/10/2010 11:09:21 AM 659 Views
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