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I find this line particularly interesting. everynametaken Send a noteboard - 13/10/2010 12:13:18 AM
A mortgage isn't a blood oath, it's a business contract—a collateralized loan. It isn't simply a promise to repay the lender. It's a promise to repay the lender or to forfeit the home. Isn't someone simply fulfilling their contract by handing over the keys when asked?

I have never really thought about it that way but technically a person walking away and handing the keys over is fulfilling the terms of the agreement. I don't know if that is "OK" or "moral" or not. I am not a homeowner and not in that position so I don't want to judge it too harshly.

I think a person should be reasonable in the sense that if he or she can pay the mortgage then he or she should try to do so until seeking good financial advice. Are there options to sell and take a loss but get out fro under it with less penalties than a straight up foreclosure? I think that is at least trying to be responsible whereas I am not sure a person who can pay just walking away is responsible.

As far as someone who simply cannot pay? I don't know what else he or she can do but walk away. I don't find that immoral or irresponsible at all. The person/family is going to pay in terms of their credit score, future financing options, etc. The penalties last a long time; the person in that situation should move on, pay the penalty but do so in a guilt free manner.

I don't want to sound like a wishy-washy relativist or anything but I do think each individual's situation is unique to some extent and that there isn't an easy one size fits all response.
But wine was the great assassin of both tradition and propriety...
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Is walking away from a mortgage immoral? - 12/10/2010 04:45:43 PM 1375 Views
Just as a contract is a two way street - - 12/10/2010 05:12:09 PM 875 Views
do we have a moral obligation to society? - 12/10/2010 06:00:17 PM 869 Views
It's a good question - 14/10/2010 02:41:21 AM 784 Views
Sort of have to disagree... - 13/10/2010 02:52:07 AM 820 Views
That's not true actually - 14/10/2010 02:35:43 AM 769 Views
Of course it's immoral. - 12/10/2010 05:13:16 PM 845 Views
But does one sided morality work? - 12/10/2010 05:38:56 PM 965 Views
That's the only kind of morality there is! What the hell is wrong with you? - 12/10/2010 08:15:55 PM 790 Views
nothing wrong with me but I think you are off your meds again - 12/10/2010 09:34:33 PM 785 Views
Re: nothing wrong with me but I think you are off your meds again - 15/10/2010 02:50:49 PM 1283 Views
well I really can't argue with the wrong is wrong end of story belief system - 15/10/2010 05:40:22 PM 986 Views
A contract isn't a promise; it's a legal agreement. *NM* - 12/10/2010 06:25:24 PM 407 Views
Which is why contracts have to be pages and pages long and combed over by bloodsucking lawyers. - 12/10/2010 06:39:18 PM 823 Views
I would agree with you if contracts didn't provide for breaking them. - 12/10/2010 07:33:15 PM 680 Views
Hrm. - 12/10/2010 07:35:38 PM 889 Views
It's not immoral to break the marriage contract. - 12/10/2010 08:19:50 PM 948 Views
I don't see that as the flaw in my logic. - 12/10/2010 08:37:52 PM 845 Views
Re: I don't see that as the flaw in my logic. - 12/10/2010 09:00:00 PM 941 Views
also - 12/10/2010 09:37:38 PM 793 Views
That makes no sense whatsoever. - 13/10/2010 11:38:06 PM 914 Views
That must be why they have you sign something called an agreementory note *NM* - 12/10/2010 07:33:32 PM 407 Views
Exactly *NM* - 12/10/2010 07:58:25 PM 390 Views
So, you think bankruptcy laws are immoral? - 13/10/2010 12:18:43 AM 832 Views
I don't think it's immoral at all. The contract usually specifies penalties for breach. - 12/10/2010 05:28:34 PM 920 Views
I thought the answer might be something like that. *NM* - 12/10/2010 05:35:35 PM 375 Views
that is close to the way I see it - 12/10/2010 05:45:25 PM 776 Views
It's both legal and immoral. - 12/10/2010 06:37:49 PM 859 Views
You didn't mention the third party - 12/10/2010 08:26:56 PM 706 Views
in a way I did since I did mention society - 12/10/2010 08:54:07 PM 851 Views
Thus the edit - 12/10/2010 09:10:53 PM 878 Views
either way I think you made a good point *NM* - 12/10/2010 09:38:58 PM 374 Views
will those neighbors... - 14/10/2010 04:52:26 AM 981 Views
All depends where you get your morals from, really. - 12/10/2010 08:28:41 PM 837 Views
I guess what i was trying to ask, at least in part - 12/10/2010 09:48:24 PM 803 Views
What if you look at it from the other perspective? - 12/10/2010 09:00:20 PM 857 Views
do you think they would if they had a legal way to do it? - 12/10/2010 10:04:57 PM 831 Views
Good point. *NM* - 12/10/2010 11:10:26 PM 391 Views
Sure, you could do that. - 13/10/2010 01:54:55 AM 859 Views
Much like the concept of morality itself. - 12/10/2010 11:47:23 PM 773 Views
I find this line particularly interesting. - 13/10/2010 12:13:18 AM 794 Views
Dunno. - 13/10/2010 12:56:56 AM 900 Views
As a professional in financial services - no, it is not. - 13/10/2010 01:44:18 AM 808 Views
but almost nobody sees it that way - 13/10/2010 12:53:25 PM 809 Views
Is the deal that if you default, the bank gets the house and nothing else, though? - 13/10/2010 02:40:48 PM 802 Views
yes but the bank has a limited ability to collect - 13/10/2010 02:47:34 PM 716 Views
I think it's morally wrong to walk away from credit card debt. *NM* - 13/10/2010 09:43:11 PM 382 Views
I'm curious how you reconcile that - 13/10/2010 09:47:59 PM 831 Views
Collateral - 19/10/2010 07:21:14 PM 1327 Views
I agree, what do you think is different? - 13/10/2010 09:59:36 PM 833 Views
I lost sleep over it, but I did it anyway. - 13/10/2010 05:24:19 AM 893 Views
OK what if you take it a step further - 13/10/2010 03:44:30 PM 847 Views
Good question - 14/10/2010 05:13:41 AM 864 Views
I have some questions about this issue. - 13/10/2010 08:14:37 AM 818 Views
how do those questions affect the morality of the situation? - 13/10/2010 03:20:14 PM 777 Views
Obviously, the essential difference is can't pay versus won't pay. - 13/10/2010 02:16:07 PM 781 Views
are you socializing your debt when it is a private bank? - 13/10/2010 03:14:48 PM 835 Views
You are when said bank requires a bailout. And very many of them do. - 13/10/2010 03:22:59 PM 794 Views
it is the home fault that the banks have to be bailed out - 13/10/2010 03:49:37 PM 855 Views
I believe it immoral to do harm. - 13/10/2010 04:38:28 PM 868 Views
I really don't understand a system where this could be an advantage. - 13/10/2010 11:16:57 PM 812 Views
There's generally something like a 7 or 10 year limit on credit reporting here. - 13/10/2010 11:46:58 PM 828 Views
What's the use of suing someone who has no money? *NM* - 13/10/2010 11:48:47 PM 440 Views
You can garnish their wages. - 13/10/2010 11:49:36 PM 790 Views
With parsley? - 13/10/2010 11:51:37 PM 878 Views
No, "someone" most certainly did not, wicked young Miss! Hmph! *NM* - 13/10/2010 11:52:40 PM 432 Views
If they suddenly come into some, you're entitled to it. *NM* - 14/10/2010 12:07:34 AM 507 Views
Bit of a long shot. *NM* - 14/10/2010 12:09:12 AM 357 Views
Very. Best to cover your bases though. *NM* - 14/10/2010 10:04:25 PM 378 Views
Not if the doctrine of election applies. - 14/10/2010 10:14:07 PM 776 Views
Are we not talking about credit companies going after people who owe them money? - 14/10/2010 10:18:47 PM 823 Views
Yeah, I guess we are. - 14/10/2010 10:28:40 PM 860 Views
Re: - 14/10/2010 03:09:18 AM 809 Views
I am currently in that situation... - 14/10/2010 05:03:23 AM 908 Views
Re: I am currently in that situation... - 14/10/2010 05:49:24 PM 1147 Views
it is easy for me and others to be glib when it is just a theory *NM* - 14/10/2010 08:19:16 PM 379 Views

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