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But does one sided morality work? random thoughts Send a noteboard - 12/10/2010 05:38:56 PM
The banks will operate in what they consider their own best interest without regards to your wellbeing. They will argue that their first obligation is to their stock holders. Wouldn't a lean holder’s first obligation be to their family? You did not enter a blood oath you enter a legal contract. A legal contract that leaves you the legal right to walk away at the cost of the home and your credit rating. Is it immoral to exercise that legal right? Is it rational to act against your own best interest by behaving in a “moral” manner with and company that feels no obligations about treating you in a moral way or their own debts for that matter? If a bank has the ability to walk away from a huge amount of debt they would do so without thinking about. They do not feel constrained by any concept of a gentleman’s contract.
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Is walking away from a mortgage immoral? - 12/10/2010 04:45:43 PM 1367 Views
Just as a contract is a two way street - - 12/10/2010 05:12:09 PM 865 Views
do we have a moral obligation to society? - 12/10/2010 06:00:17 PM 861 Views
It's a good question - 14/10/2010 02:41:21 AM 774 Views
Sort of have to disagree... - 13/10/2010 02:52:07 AM 808 Views
That's not true actually - 14/10/2010 02:35:43 AM 758 Views
Of course it's immoral. - 12/10/2010 05:13:16 PM 839 Views
But does one sided morality work? - 12/10/2010 05:38:56 PM 955 Views
That's the only kind of morality there is! What the hell is wrong with you? - 12/10/2010 08:15:55 PM 781 Views
nothing wrong with me but I think you are off your meds again - 12/10/2010 09:34:33 PM 773 Views
Re: nothing wrong with me but I think you are off your meds again - 15/10/2010 02:50:49 PM 1276 Views
well I really can't argue with the wrong is wrong end of story belief system - 15/10/2010 05:40:22 PM 977 Views
A contract isn't a promise; it's a legal agreement. *NM* - 12/10/2010 06:25:24 PM 404 Views
Which is why contracts have to be pages and pages long and combed over by bloodsucking lawyers. - 12/10/2010 06:39:18 PM 813 Views
I would agree with you if contracts didn't provide for breaking them. - 12/10/2010 07:33:15 PM 672 Views
Hrm. - 12/10/2010 07:35:38 PM 879 Views
It's not immoral to break the marriage contract. - 12/10/2010 08:19:50 PM 938 Views
I don't see that as the flaw in my logic. - 12/10/2010 08:37:52 PM 836 Views
Re: I don't see that as the flaw in my logic. - 12/10/2010 09:00:00 PM 928 Views
also - 12/10/2010 09:37:38 PM 783 Views
That makes no sense whatsoever. - 13/10/2010 11:38:06 PM 904 Views
That must be why they have you sign something called an agreementory note *NM* - 12/10/2010 07:33:32 PM 404 Views
Exactly *NM* - 12/10/2010 07:58:25 PM 387 Views
So, you think bankruptcy laws are immoral? - 13/10/2010 12:18:43 AM 825 Views
I don't think it's immoral at all. The contract usually specifies penalties for breach. - 12/10/2010 05:28:34 PM 909 Views
I thought the answer might be something like that. *NM* - 12/10/2010 05:35:35 PM 372 Views
that is close to the way I see it - 12/10/2010 05:45:25 PM 769 Views
It's both legal and immoral. - 12/10/2010 06:37:49 PM 852 Views
You didn't mention the third party - 12/10/2010 08:26:56 PM 699 Views
in a way I did since I did mention society - 12/10/2010 08:54:07 PM 841 Views
Thus the edit - 12/10/2010 09:10:53 PM 869 Views
either way I think you made a good point *NM* - 12/10/2010 09:38:58 PM 370 Views
will those neighbors... - 14/10/2010 04:52:26 AM 972 Views
All depends where you get your morals from, really. - 12/10/2010 08:28:41 PM 829 Views
I guess what i was trying to ask, at least in part - 12/10/2010 09:48:24 PM 796 Views
What if you look at it from the other perspective? - 12/10/2010 09:00:20 PM 846 Views
do you think they would if they had a legal way to do it? - 12/10/2010 10:04:57 PM 822 Views
Good point. *NM* - 12/10/2010 11:10:26 PM 387 Views
Sure, you could do that. - 13/10/2010 01:54:55 AM 850 Views
Much like the concept of morality itself. - 12/10/2010 11:47:23 PM 766 Views
I find this line particularly interesting. - 13/10/2010 12:13:18 AM 784 Views
Dunno. - 13/10/2010 12:56:56 AM 892 Views
As a professional in financial services - no, it is not. - 13/10/2010 01:44:18 AM 796 Views
but almost nobody sees it that way - 13/10/2010 12:53:25 PM 800 Views
Is the deal that if you default, the bank gets the house and nothing else, though? - 13/10/2010 02:40:48 PM 793 Views
yes but the bank has a limited ability to collect - 13/10/2010 02:47:34 PM 709 Views
I think it's morally wrong to walk away from credit card debt. *NM* - 13/10/2010 09:43:11 PM 378 Views
I'm curious how you reconcile that - 13/10/2010 09:47:59 PM 822 Views
Collateral - 19/10/2010 07:21:14 PM 1315 Views
I agree, what do you think is different? - 13/10/2010 09:59:36 PM 818 Views
I lost sleep over it, but I did it anyway. - 13/10/2010 05:24:19 AM 884 Views
OK what if you take it a step further - 13/10/2010 03:44:30 PM 835 Views
Good question - 14/10/2010 05:13:41 AM 854 Views
I have some questions about this issue. - 13/10/2010 08:14:37 AM 811 Views
how do those questions affect the morality of the situation? - 13/10/2010 03:20:14 PM 768 Views
Obviously, the essential difference is can't pay versus won't pay. - 13/10/2010 02:16:07 PM 775 Views
are you socializing your debt when it is a private bank? - 13/10/2010 03:14:48 PM 826 Views
You are when said bank requires a bailout. And very many of them do. - 13/10/2010 03:22:59 PM 782 Views
it is the home fault that the banks have to be bailed out - 13/10/2010 03:49:37 PM 843 Views
I believe it immoral to do harm. - 13/10/2010 04:38:28 PM 859 Views
I really don't understand a system where this could be an advantage. - 13/10/2010 11:16:57 PM 802 Views
There's generally something like a 7 or 10 year limit on credit reporting here. - 13/10/2010 11:46:58 PM 818 Views
What's the use of suing someone who has no money? *NM* - 13/10/2010 11:48:47 PM 437 Views
You can garnish their wages. - 13/10/2010 11:49:36 PM 777 Views
With parsley? - 13/10/2010 11:51:37 PM 868 Views
No, "someone" most certainly did not, wicked young Miss! Hmph! *NM* - 13/10/2010 11:52:40 PM 429 Views
If they suddenly come into some, you're entitled to it. *NM* - 14/10/2010 12:07:34 AM 503 Views
Bit of a long shot. *NM* - 14/10/2010 12:09:12 AM 353 Views
Very. Best to cover your bases though. *NM* - 14/10/2010 10:04:25 PM 372 Views
Not if the doctrine of election applies. - 14/10/2010 10:14:07 PM 765 Views
Are we not talking about credit companies going after people who owe them money? - 14/10/2010 10:18:47 PM 813 Views
Yeah, I guess we are. - 14/10/2010 10:28:40 PM 854 Views
Re: - 14/10/2010 03:09:18 AM 800 Views
I am currently in that situation... - 14/10/2010 05:03:23 AM 896 Views
Re: I am currently in that situation... - 14/10/2010 05:49:24 PM 1140 Views
it is easy for me and others to be glib when it is just a theory *NM* - 14/10/2010 08:19:16 PM 376 Views

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