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Possibly a quibble, but just trying to clarify... Sareitha Sedai Send a noteboard - 11/09/2009 05:15:52 PM
I don't understand what all the gender tests entail, and I don't have an opinion on what should qualify as "male" and what "female." I've read a little bit about the various disorders and it sounds like it gets pretty confusing. If she IS male though, as determined by whoever the authorities are, then she definitely should not be allowed to keep her championship. It's not fair to take it from her when she didn't intentionally break the rules, but it's even less fair to the other competitors, the athletes holding the records (records that Semenya smashed, and likely will never be broken if allowed to stand), and so on.


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The issue isn't likely to be that they decide that she "is male", it's likely to be that they decide she "isn't female". I don't know if that changes your opinion or not. To me the issue hinges on whether or not she or her parents or coaches knew.
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Caster Semenya has male sex organs and no womb or ovaries everynametaken - 11/09/2009 12:24:30 PM 1468 Views
I think revoking the championship and a ban at this point would be plain wrong LadyLorraine - 11/09/2009 02:01:15 PM 827 Views
Well said. Lupine - 11/09/2009 02:10:31 PM 811 Views
agreed. *NM* Avendesora - 11/09/2009 02:36:06 PM 409 Views
I agree. *NM* @my - 11/09/2009 03:20:05 PM 399 Views
I agree it's not her fault, but she shouldn't keep her championship. Aemon - 11/09/2009 03:50:06 PM 787 Views
Possibly a quibble, but just trying to clarify... Sareitha Sedai - 11/09/2009 05:15:52 PM 885 Views
It makes sense StarEnight - 13/09/2009 05:04:23 PM 834 Views
I disagree Сталин - 11/09/2009 04:09:50 PM 1148 Views
As bad as if feel for the athlete, I agree. *NM* ironclad - 11/09/2009 04:46:57 PM 380 Views
Ditto. Assuming she never knew about it, which remains to be seen. *NM* Wibble - 11/09/2009 08:08:29 PM 363 Views
To the extent that LadyLorraine means "at this point", I do agree with her... Sareitha Sedai - 11/09/2009 05:03:34 PM 880 Views
Sounds like she/he is more dude than chick..... trzaska2000 - 11/09/2009 02:42:33 PM 883 Views
not really. it only takes ONE mistake to cause her problems. LadyLorraine - 12/09/2009 03:19:06 AM 820 Views
It's not that simple with DNA either. Legolas - 12/09/2009 10:38:28 AM 913 Views
no it's not as simple as "XX" and "XY" LadyLorraine - 12/09/2009 03:02:03 PM 843 Views
I think it is a sad story random thoughts - 11/09/2009 04:34:29 PM 889 Views
I agree. everynametaken - 11/09/2009 09:20:35 PM 928 Views
I like I said, tragic random thoughts - 11/09/2009 09:34:57 PM 777 Views
I can't believe this whole thing is public Monkey - 11/09/2009 07:03:59 PM 914 Views
That's a good idea! Floffe - 11/09/2009 07:17:20 PM 829 Views
Yeah, seems fair. Medal, no record. Legolas - 11/09/2009 07:57:38 PM 766 Views
How could she not know something was different? Not developing a period would be a major sign. *NM* everynametaken - 11/09/2009 09:21:54 PM 378 Views
Not necessarily, depending on the rigors of her athletic training. *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 11/09/2009 09:26:32 PM 353 Views
When do most girls get their first period? Around 12 or 13? everynametaken - 12/09/2009 07:34:23 AM 740 Views
Yes, but 14 or 15 isn't out of the ordinary *NM* Floffe - 12/09/2009 11:23:09 AM 373 Views
I didn't start until I was 17 *NM* LadyLorraine - 12/09/2009 03:02:28 PM 353 Views
That is a bit unusual. *shrugs* *NM* everynametaken - 13/09/2009 01:17:18 AM 369 Views
starting THAT late is, yes LadyLorraine - 13/09/2009 04:24:44 AM 1003 Views
There are plenty of runners who do hard training that keeps them from getting a regular period Floffe - 11/09/2009 09:29:24 PM 844 Views
I'd say so too. Periods have a lot to do with % body fat. Lupine - 12/09/2009 12:28:46 AM 926 Views
Not at the age when a girl first develops her period. everynametaken - 12/09/2009 07:36:24 AM 824 Views
You have an odd understanding of what's normal... Lupine - 12/09/2009 02:51:37 PM 837 Views
And you are still missing the point. everynametaken - 13/09/2009 01:18:54 AM 772 Views
And you're missing the point Sareitha Sedai - 13/09/2009 01:39:46 AM 803 Views
What Sareitha said. Lupine - 13/09/2009 03:50:05 AM 955 Views
people develop 30lb tumors and never go to get them checked out random thoughts - 11/09/2009 09:36:18 PM 866 Views
Well, now that you put it that way I guess I could see that. *NM* everynametaken - 12/09/2009 07:37:18 AM 357 Views
Not that rare in athletes. Tashmere - 12/09/2009 01:06:27 AM 767 Views
like i said in my first post LadyLorraine - 12/09/2009 03:25:04 AM 845 Views
I like that idea. That is the most sensible solution. *NM* Tashmere - 12/09/2009 01:07:42 AM 340 Views
This whole thing has been handled disgracefully Sidious - 12/09/2009 12:37:35 PM 942 Views
Considering that similar questions have arisen before Sareitha Sedai - 13/09/2009 01:43:18 AM 996 Views
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