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I admit, I don't know many (any) kiwis personally (in person that is)... Phelix Send a noteboard - 08/09/2010 09:52:45 PM
The word has so many other connotations in Australia and New Zealand that it's not surprising that the homosexual meaning didn't enter her head at the time.


but the people I do know from Europe, Africa and Australia all share the common definition that faggot, when used as an insult, is meant to be derogatory to queer folk.

The only time I can think of "faggot" being used in a non-offensive way is when you call a straight woman who hangs out with gay men a fag-hag, and even that is mildly offensive.

How else is it used? I don't think my experience is universal, but I simply haven't encountered a situation where faggot-as-insult did not refer to queer men.
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Interesting way to bring people together Sidious - 08/09/2010 04:36:19 PM 1714 Views
That is priceless. Go Stephanie Rice! *NM* Legolas - 08/09/2010 04:38:27 PM 422 Views
omigod....what a ridiculous overreaction LadyLorraine - 08/09/2010 04:55:55 PM 1047 Views
omigod....what a ridiculous overreaction LadyLorraine - 08/09/2010 04:55:55 PM 732 Views
1. That girl is an idiot who needs to do some soul searching... Phelix - 08/09/2010 07:07:47 PM 1020 Views
? not that her comment was excusable... LadyLorraine - 08/09/2010 07:45:59 PM 1086 Views
It's not a cardinal sin against humanity... Phelix - 08/09/2010 07:55:55 PM 1211 Views
or it just means... LadyLorraine - 08/09/2010 08:18:57 PM 1131 Views
Societal problems don't go away from the group level. Phelix - 08/09/2010 08:25:21 PM 968 Views
your soul is your being LadyLorraine - 08/09/2010 08:43:18 PM 1013 Views
Just because you search does not mean you re-evaluate. Phelix - 08/09/2010 08:45:31 PM 897 Views
You have an odd definition of homophobe (or at least that's what your last paragraph implies). Legolas - 08/09/2010 10:04:52 PM 975 Views
I was trying to use her words... Phelix - 08/09/2010 10:17:32 PM 1044 Views
Ah, okay. Her apology does seem rather clumsy, agreed there. Legolas - 08/09/2010 11:05:34 PM 932 Views
Glad to clear up that confusion. Phelix - 08/09/2010 11:11:35 PM 1117 Views
I don't think you should read too much in the exact wording of her apology. Legolas - 08/09/2010 11:24:21 PM 978 Views
I'm horrible for tearing into the meaning of words. Phelix - 08/09/2010 11:36:34 PM 967 Views
Entirely agree *NM* ironclad - 08/09/2010 10:46:12 PM 500 Views
You should watch that Southpark episode where they change the meaning of the word faggot. Helene - 08/09/2010 09:24:16 PM 868 Views
I've seen it, and it was funny. Phelix - 08/09/2010 09:40:43 PM 1061 Views
Suspect you need to consider the way the word is used in other countries. Rebekah - 08/09/2010 09:46:05 PM 934 Views
I admit, I don't know many (any) kiwis personally (in person that is)... Phelix - 08/09/2010 09:52:45 PM 923 Views
The insult word for homosexuals Downunder tends to be Fruit or Queer. Rebekah - 08/09/2010 09:58:04 PM 1113 Views
OK, I can see that. Phelix - 08/09/2010 10:09:16 PM 991 Views
I think it's unfair to people to assume that there's some underlying bad nature... Rebekah - 08/09/2010 10:18:29 PM 976 Views
I'm not assuming there's an underlying bad nature, I am saying she should look to see if it's there. Phelix - 08/09/2010 10:27:21 PM 1073 Views
And I'm saying that you're instantly looking on the negative side of things instead of Rebekah - 08/09/2010 10:46:11 PM 930 Views
I don't think I'm looking at the negative side of things, merely saying that she needs to look. Phelix - 08/09/2010 11:01:11 PM 972 Views
Or, she was replying to interview questions and thinking on her feet. Rebekah - 08/09/2010 11:10:26 PM 1048 Views
This is my first encounter with her. Phelix - 08/09/2010 11:24:42 PM 1168 Views
Don't forget Poofta!! LadyLorraine - 08/09/2010 10:57:00 PM 776 Views
Heh, I had forgotten that. Rebekah - 08/09/2010 10:58:53 PM 984 Views
She said she needs to learn to think before she tweets lol Sidious - 08/09/2010 08:14:38 PM 1173 Views
Yes, but that's just a surface change. Phelix - 08/09/2010 08:20:59 PM 1157 Views
Re: Yes, but that's just a surface change. Sidious - 08/09/2010 08:39:52 PM 1235 Views
Re: Yes, but that's just a surface change. Phelix - 08/09/2010 08:43:55 PM 999 Views
mm, i doubt that would make people shut up LadyLorraine - 08/09/2010 08:44:29 PM 862 Views
A concerted effort would do it... Phelix - 08/09/2010 08:47:50 PM 945 Views
heh, it's pretty cool that everyone came together like that BlackAdder - 08/09/2010 10:52:50 PM 762 Views
"Just because a person is gay, mayor, doesn't mean he is a fag" Delireus - 09/09/2010 05:27:50 AM 858 Views
It was a very good game though, wasn't it? *NM* Colonel Logain - 09/09/2010 12:56:33 PM 532 Views
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