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Well, my tripes with it are a little in line with that MalkierKnight Send a noteboard - 05/09/2010 01:26:56 AM
Whether or not you agree with such things, that is the case. Personally, I don't like it and I'm glad that it wasn't the school's decision as it seems she was important to the students, but she knew what she signed when she signed it and knew the risk she was taking. Once again, I do NOT like it, but I'm not going to get up in arms about it either. She took a job at a catholic institution--knowing the catholic stance on homosexuality--and made a "public" action against their stance, knowing it was against her contract. Of course, I'm so-so on how public a marriage is, but the qualifications in most places for a "common law" marriage tends to entail publicly behaving and ascribing to "being married", so I'm not going to get in a fuss over it.

The part I like the least is that they seemed to have pushed her to resign instead of be fired...you tend not to receive unemployment when you've resigned, although I'm not sure you would have for being fired due to a breech of contract either.


You see, I don't feel you should be able to draw a contract up like that at all. In my interpretation of the law (however lacking it may be) it is discriminatory to exclude someone's employment opportunity based on sexual preference.

Imagine if her contract stipulated that she couldn't marry an african-american? I can only begin to fathom the backlash, regardless of the contractual literature.

I'll admit that there is some gray area regarding how far religious institutions can go with their powers as a private entity. Should we look on them as a different type of private entity as, say, a McDonalds or Google? Or are they really no different?

It also seems like there's a veiled feeling of homophobia here. It wouldn't surprise me if there were other teachers who contradicted church doctrine and were allowed to stay on board. Of course, that's just my speculation, but you don't hear very often churches or religious schools kicking people out because they got divorced without an annulment or use contraceptives.

So why then this grave emphasis on marriage?

The importance with which people of various Christian denominations stress heterosexuality is shocking to me considering Christ himself never once mentioned homosexuals in all the writings we have on him.
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Gay Marriage and Religious Institutions - 04/09/2010 11:36:14 PM 1373 Views
Religion 100% aside, it's"okay" because she breached her contract - 05/09/2010 12:18:36 AM 961 Views
Well, my tripes with it are a little in line with that - 05/09/2010 01:26:56 AM 975 Views
Re: Well, my tripes with it are a little in line with that - 05/09/2010 01:41:34 AM 919 Views
goodness knows that the military sign their rights away ALL THE TIME - 05/09/2010 02:44:58 AM 778 Views
While I understand that view - 05/09/2010 04:05:29 AM 926 Views
There is a difference in the degree of the transgressions and the public nature of them as well. - 05/09/2010 02:30:06 AM 881 Views
agreed. There may be some hypocrisy in the church employment practices... - 05/09/2010 02:49:44 AM 837 Views
That's the crux of it. - 07/09/2010 11:24:44 AM 975 Views
Re: There is a difference in the degree of the transgressions and the public nature of them as well. - 09/09/2010 06:43:23 AM 1157 Views
I could not believe this post was serious. - 10/09/2010 02:04:10 AM 966 Views
Good god... - 10/09/2010 10:52:03 AM 938 Views
To recieve federal funds you can't discriminate - 05/09/2010 04:02:13 AM 978 Views
She chose to work for a Catholic institution. - 05/09/2010 05:54:23 PM 781 Views
what a stupid thing to say - 05/09/2010 07:38:16 PM 922 Views
Um... no? One can be excommunicated for any number of things. *NM* - 05/09/2010 08:22:29 PM 315 Views
yeah back in the time when there was no electricity *NM* - 05/09/2010 08:25:17 PM 357 Views
...um, no. I'm not sure where you're getting that from, but it's completely wrong. - 06/09/2010 01:06:49 AM 826 Views
You can't be excommunicated for being gay - 06/09/2010 02:51:21 AM 909 Views
No one here said you could. - 06/09/2010 03:00:07 AM 838 Views
I am not disagreeing with that, excommunications do happen - 06/09/2010 03:07:57 AM 922 Views
Wow! What an underwhelming argument. - 06/09/2010 04:24:32 AM 885 Views
Actually, the Pope has the right to say "sorry, you're not a Catholic anymore". - 05/09/2010 08:43:34 PM 1030 Views
See above post - 06/09/2010 02:52:25 AM 767 Views
What? - 06/09/2010 02:56:59 AM 778 Views
Nope - 06/09/2010 03:03:48 AM 808 Views
Inaction, like, for example, not saving lives where you could have is also grounds for expulsion. - 06/09/2010 06:35:31 PM 688 Views
Hmm, but I think that's a different type of inaction than the kind he's discussing - 06/09/2010 08:02:50 PM 1001 Views
I never infered that that was the case. - 06/09/2010 08:24:30 PM 704 Views
mmm, but your example isn't inaction ALONE - 06/09/2010 08:46:56 PM 806 Views
Hmm interesting question. - 06/09/2010 10:35:19 PM 890 Views
is excommunication about "use" though? - 06/09/2010 10:36:55 PM 926 Views
I don't know. - 07/09/2010 05:47:42 AM 764 Views
yah, I'd agree with that - 07/09/2010 11:59:01 AM 925 Views
Well thank god you aren't the pope - 07/09/2010 03:29:00 AM 887 Views
I would say the same for you. - 07/09/2010 05:50:55 AM 832 Views
Dismas is a Saint? - 07/09/2010 12:08:45 PM 905 Views
It's pretty hard to argue with that one. *NM* - 08/09/2010 04:18:41 AM 294 Views
Yeah, was just surprised they'd made it official is all. - 08/09/2010 04:36:28 AM 874 Views
You are purposefully trying to split hairs - 07/09/2010 03:15:08 AM 811 Views
Calling me an idiot... - 07/09/2010 05:52:39 AM 822 Views
My turn to split hairs: - 07/09/2010 12:10:33 PM 816 Views
does excommunication mean you are no longer Catholic? - 06/09/2010 08:52:58 PM 701 Views
i'm pretty sure we have this conversation on a weekly basis. *NM* - 06/09/2010 09:05:33 PM 334 Views
Yeah. - 06/09/2010 10:34:10 PM 682 Views
is being Catholic a belief system or a club? - 06/09/2010 11:03:00 PM 792 Views
Depends on who you ask - 07/09/2010 03:12:23 AM 940 Views
It's both. - 07/09/2010 05:54:13 AM 889 Views
I'm unsure about that. It doesn't invalidate baptism. - 07/09/2010 08:23:33 AM 765 Views
I thought conformation is what made you a member of the church *NM* - 07/09/2010 06:42:36 PM 304 Views
You're correct. - 08/09/2010 02:33:45 AM 802 Views
Hey I haven't brought up the last two times - 07/09/2010 03:30:18 AM 788 Views
My god people that cheat or divorce shouldn't be Catholic - 06/09/2010 02:26:23 AM 703 Views
I'm inclined to agree. - 07/09/2010 11:31:59 AM 764 Views
Re: I'm inclined to agree. - 10/09/2010 02:36:05 AM 886 Views

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