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Well, my tripes with it are a little in line with that MalkierKnight Send a noteboard - 05/09/2010 01:26:56 AM
Whether or not you agree with such things, that is the case. Personally, I don't like it and I'm glad that it wasn't the school's decision as it seems she was important to the students, but she knew what she signed when she signed it and knew the risk she was taking. Once again, I do NOT like it, but I'm not going to get up in arms about it either. She took a job at a catholic institution--knowing the catholic stance on homosexuality--and made a "public" action against their stance, knowing it was against her contract. Of course, I'm so-so on how public a marriage is, but the qualifications in most places for a "common law" marriage tends to entail publicly behaving and ascribing to "being married", so I'm not going to get in a fuss over it.

The part I like the least is that they seemed to have pushed her to resign instead of be fired...you tend not to receive unemployment when you've resigned, although I'm not sure you would have for being fired due to a breech of contract either.


You see, I don't feel you should be able to draw a contract up like that at all. In my interpretation of the law (however lacking it may be) it is discriminatory to exclude someone's employment opportunity based on sexual preference.

Imagine if her contract stipulated that she couldn't marry an african-american? I can only begin to fathom the backlash, regardless of the contractual literature.

I'll admit that there is some gray area regarding how far religious institutions can go with their powers as a private entity. Should we look on them as a different type of private entity as, say, a McDonalds or Google? Or are they really no different?

It also seems like there's a veiled feeling of homophobia here. It wouldn't surprise me if there were other teachers who contradicted church doctrine and were allowed to stay on board. Of course, that's just my speculation, but you don't hear very often churches or religious schools kicking people out because they got divorced without an annulment or use contraceptives.

So why then this grave emphasis on marriage?

The importance with which people of various Christian denominations stress heterosexuality is shocking to me considering Christ himself never once mentioned homosexuals in all the writings we have on him.
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Gay Marriage and Religious Institutions - 04/09/2010 11:36:14 PM 1451 Views
Religion 100% aside, it's"okay" because she breached her contract - 05/09/2010 12:18:36 AM 1031 Views
Well, my tripes with it are a little in line with that - 05/09/2010 01:26:56 AM 1048 Views
Re: Well, my tripes with it are a little in line with that - 05/09/2010 01:41:34 AM 1009 Views
goodness knows that the military sign their rights away ALL THE TIME - 05/09/2010 02:44:58 AM 853 Views
While I understand that view - 05/09/2010 04:05:29 AM 970 Views
There is a difference in the degree of the transgressions and the public nature of them as well. - 05/09/2010 02:30:06 AM 947 Views
agreed. There may be some hypocrisy in the church employment practices... - 05/09/2010 02:49:44 AM 914 Views
That's the crux of it. - 07/09/2010 11:24:44 AM 1058 Views
Re: There is a difference in the degree of the transgressions and the public nature of them as well. - 09/09/2010 06:43:23 AM 1227 Views
I could not believe this post was serious. - 10/09/2010 02:04:10 AM 1049 Views
Good god... - 10/09/2010 10:52:03 AM 1021 Views
To recieve federal funds you can't discriminate - 05/09/2010 04:02:13 AM 1054 Views
She chose to work for a Catholic institution. - 05/09/2010 05:54:23 PM 857 Views
what a stupid thing to say - 05/09/2010 07:38:16 PM 991 Views
Um... no? One can be excommunicated for any number of things. *NM* - 05/09/2010 08:22:29 PM 347 Views
yeah back in the time when there was no electricity *NM* - 05/09/2010 08:25:17 PM 389 Views
...um, no. I'm not sure where you're getting that from, but it's completely wrong. - 06/09/2010 01:06:49 AM 903 Views
You can't be excommunicated for being gay - 06/09/2010 02:51:21 AM 985 Views
No one here said you could. - 06/09/2010 03:00:07 AM 921 Views
I am not disagreeing with that, excommunications do happen - 06/09/2010 03:07:57 AM 997 Views
Wow! What an underwhelming argument. - 06/09/2010 04:24:32 AM 966 Views
Actually, the Pope has the right to say "sorry, you're not a Catholic anymore". - 05/09/2010 08:43:34 PM 1108 Views
See above post - 06/09/2010 02:52:25 AM 841 Views
What? - 06/09/2010 02:56:59 AM 849 Views
Nope - 06/09/2010 03:03:48 AM 893 Views
Inaction, like, for example, not saving lives where you could have is also grounds for expulsion. - 06/09/2010 06:35:31 PM 761 Views
Hmm, but I think that's a different type of inaction than the kind he's discussing - 06/09/2010 08:02:50 PM 1077 Views
I never infered that that was the case. - 06/09/2010 08:24:30 PM 776 Views
mmm, but your example isn't inaction ALONE - 06/09/2010 08:46:56 PM 875 Views
Hmm interesting question. - 06/09/2010 10:35:19 PM 962 Views
is excommunication about "use" though? - 06/09/2010 10:36:55 PM 995 Views
I don't know. - 07/09/2010 05:47:42 AM 840 Views
yah, I'd agree with that - 07/09/2010 11:59:01 AM 1003 Views
Well thank god you aren't the pope - 07/09/2010 03:29:00 AM 962 Views
I would say the same for you. - 07/09/2010 05:50:55 AM 912 Views
Dismas is a Saint? - 07/09/2010 12:08:45 PM 988 Views
It's pretty hard to argue with that one. *NM* - 08/09/2010 04:18:41 AM 331 Views
Yeah, was just surprised they'd made it official is all. - 08/09/2010 04:36:28 AM 945 Views
You are purposefully trying to split hairs - 07/09/2010 03:15:08 AM 881 Views
Calling me an idiot... - 07/09/2010 05:52:39 AM 895 Views
My turn to split hairs: - 07/09/2010 12:10:33 PM 885 Views
does excommunication mean you are no longer Catholic? - 06/09/2010 08:52:58 PM 776 Views
i'm pretty sure we have this conversation on a weekly basis. *NM* - 06/09/2010 09:05:33 PM 370 Views
Yeah. - 06/09/2010 10:34:10 PM 765 Views
is being Catholic a belief system or a club? - 06/09/2010 11:03:00 PM 864 Views
Depends on who you ask - 07/09/2010 03:12:23 AM 1019 Views
It's both. - 07/09/2010 05:54:13 AM 973 Views
I'm unsure about that. It doesn't invalidate baptism. - 07/09/2010 08:23:33 AM 838 Views
I thought conformation is what made you a member of the church *NM* - 07/09/2010 06:42:36 PM 336 Views
You're correct. - 08/09/2010 02:33:45 AM 894 Views
Hey I haven't brought up the last two times - 07/09/2010 03:30:18 AM 873 Views
My god people that cheat or divorce shouldn't be Catholic - 06/09/2010 02:26:23 AM 785 Views
I'm inclined to agree. - 07/09/2010 11:31:59 AM 836 Views
Re: I'm inclined to agree. - 10/09/2010 02:36:05 AM 966 Views

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