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so we have reached the point of no return... damookster Send a noteboard - 22/08/2010 04:18:46 PM
bottom line time.

Your argument, reduced to its bottom line boils down to this:

Critics of Obama's speech and subsequent remarks are either...

1. Not bright enough to get it

2. Deliberately misconstruing his intent to advance their own agenda


So, Tash, here's the true bottom line:

Which of the above applies to me?


p.s. Unless your coworkers are also holders of national office, their ability to either speak with enough clarity to be understood or get what another is saying without slanting or misunderstanding is somewhat irrelevant to what the President doid or didn't do. Unless it is to establish that as a pet peeve of yours, you may not be very impartial in your assessments.
Mook

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"Bustin' makes me feel good!"

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