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Oh, I dunno if you could translate the current numbers into Obamas defeat. Joel Send a noteboard - 18/08/2010 03:52:18 PM
the Democratic Senate Majority Leader has publicly disagreed. Which would tend to indicate that Democratic members of Congress facing re-election this fall are concerned.

For precisely the reason to which nossy alluded to in her response to you. Obama said, IMHO, exactly what he should've; I think the mosques location is a HORRIBLE mistake, but it wouldn't be American to deny them the right to build it on private property (if 911 is the deep and painful scar on Americas psyche that so many seem to think, should any part of the area(s) attacked that day BE private property rather than a national memorial? Is Disney still doing that "Gettysburg Battlefield Carnage and Kiddie Ride" thing...?) As President, of course, anything he says will about anything will be under multiple microscopes in nanoseconds, and this isn't great timing for him, but he said what he should've.

For one thing, it hasn't been that long since someone got re-elected a week after one poll showed him running behind "Somebod E. else" and a month after another showed him trailing "Anothercan D. Date. " For another, everything I said about Obamas disapproval numbers not being entirely from the right goes double for a Presidential election. As illustrated by the first point; a LOT of people (most, easily) disliked Bush in '04, but many of those people went out and voted for him anyway because the thought of KERRY as President was too horrifying.

Reid, however, is so inept I can't imagine how he got where he is today. His grasp of campaigning shouldn't be good enough to win a dog catchers election, and even if I give him a pass on that, how does a person so HORRIBLE at backroom armtwisting become Majority Leader for ANY party? Reids defeat may be the best thing for Dems; they'll almost certainly retain a Senate majority, and the way will be clear for a more capable majority leader, probably NOT from the spineless unctuous ranks that produced Reid. Talking down to the people and kissing up to the "loyal" opposition got him nothing but a terminated political career; hopefully someone was watching....

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Wait, wait WAIT! The location for the so-called "mosque at ground zero" is actually 2 blocks away?! - 17/08/2010 03:19:02 PM 2473 Views
it's still too close!! IT'S TOO CLOSE I SAY - 17/08/2010 03:23:12 PM 1466 Views
*NM* - 18/08/2010 11:40:26 AM 625 Views
Yes, it is. - 17/08/2010 03:23:33 PM 1459 Views
Another stupid question...is it even actually a mosque? - 17/08/2010 03:28:37 PM 1316 Views
I've heard the same. - 17/08/2010 03:30:36 PM 1238 Views
So - 17/08/2010 03:35:43 PM 1346 Views
blog link - 17/08/2010 03:41:43 PM 1418 Views
that's correct *NM* - 17/08/2010 03:51:38 PM 617 Views
it's both from what I've heard. - 17/08/2010 04:00:54 PM 1241 Views
sort of like most churches, mosques and temples? *NM* - 17/08/2010 04:04:12 PM 621 Views
mmm, i think more like... - 17/08/2010 04:08:55 PM 1208 Views
it is a community center with a mosque - 17/08/2010 04:28:08 PM 1100 Views
A memorial! - 17/08/2010 04:58:52 PM 1327 Views
it is a community center with a mosque - 17/08/2010 04:28:09 PM 1285 Views
my wife's church has a play ground and community center - 17/08/2010 04:47:52 PM 1230 Views
okay, cool then - 17/08/2010 05:17:04 PM 1079 Views
I was just being nit picky - 17/08/2010 05:44:36 PM 1086 Views
Been hearing a lot on NPR - 17/08/2010 03:32:42 PM 1312 Views
I could see it being insensitive if it were actually where the towers used to be. - 17/08/2010 03:43:18 PM 1397 Views
Yeah. - 17/08/2010 03:51:13 PM 1297 Views
precisely. - 17/08/2010 04:02:44 PM 1183 Views
you should probably keep in mind.... - 17/08/2010 04:02:25 PM 1334 Views
So - 17/08/2010 04:06:18 PM 1386 Views
don't use that term at all. Say WTC. *NM* - 18/08/2010 12:27:32 AM 633 Views
I know. - 17/08/2010 04:26:19 PM 1242 Views
it certainly has turned into a political land mine for Obama... - 17/08/2010 03:54:03 PM 1243 Views
True - 17/08/2010 04:02:04 PM 1058 Views
unfortunately... - 17/08/2010 04:05:08 PM 1205 Views
That's because they are pussies. - 17/08/2010 04:10:59 PM 1349 Views
This is beginning to sound familiar. - 17/08/2010 05:18:37 PM 1416 Views
with the senate majority leader weighing it I don't believe it is all how it is mostly on the right - 17/08/2010 05:58:10 PM 1314 Views
Seems we disagree on that, then. - 17/08/2010 06:05:33 PM 1297 Views
hardly the first time - 17/08/2010 06:56:33 PM 1276 Views
Well, since day 1 of this whole debate alot of the opposition has come from the right. - 17/08/2010 10:50:49 PM 1269 Views
you assume it is pandering maybe they just agree with the majority - 18/08/2010 02:30:53 AM 1244 Views
I'm not saying it's a partisan issue, but it has turned political for all the wrong reasons. - 18/08/2010 04:18:49 AM 1391 Views
is the idea that it is not to close to ground zero the misinformation you are refering to? - 18/08/2010 03:09:17 PM 1241 Views
Well, it's not like they're literally on ground zero. - 18/08/2010 08:54:08 PM 1354 Views
ground zero is defined as where the old WTC complex was - 19/08/2010 12:23:32 PM 1229 Views
And anything within a 3 block radius apparently? - 20/08/2010 04:44:25 AM 1255 Views
Guess which of them will be out of a job in January? - 18/08/2010 01:22:49 PM 1249 Views
the only reason Obama won't be out of job is he isn't running - 18/08/2010 03:10:58 PM 1211 Views
Oh, I dunno if you could translate the current numbers into Obamas defeat. - 18/08/2010 03:52:18 PM 1278 Views
Bush's numbers were much better in 04 then Obama's are now - 18/08/2010 04:11:31 PM 1323 Views
Perhaps so then. - 19/08/2010 04:51:36 PM 1249 Views
it was a large event so two half blocks really is pretty damn close - 17/08/2010 04:03:17 PM 1349 Views
Here's a map of the site for perspective - 17/08/2010 04:08:41 PM 1380 Views
so 2 blocks from the superblock then? - 17/08/2010 04:13:03 PM 1386 Views
I guess, superblock is an obscure term to this country lad - 17/08/2010 04:41:11 PM 1229 Views
It may not necessarily matter to people who are aware of that fact. - 17/08/2010 05:13:12 PM 1203 Views
mk, well, to my mind (being from phoeni, 1 full city block is about 1 mile. - 17/08/2010 05:15:49 PM 1272 Views
A mile is a serious exaggeration, surely. - 17/08/2010 05:24:48 PM 1394 Views
Remember, I did say in Phoenix - 17/08/2010 05:27:43 PM 1290 Views
I really need to see Phoenix some day. - 17/08/2010 05:32:40 PM 1300 Views
i still think houston is more spread out than phoenix - 18/08/2010 08:21:10 AM 1308 Views
unless you go far enough west of course - 18/08/2010 03:30:45 PM 1157 Views
most of california is pretty spread out, city-wise. - 19/08/2010 02:16:44 AM 1141 Views
true, I was think along the lines of San Fransico - 19/08/2010 03:47:12 AM 1225 Views
Absolutely. - 17/08/2010 05:28:38 PM 1282 Views
In NYC, generally 1 mile = 20 blocks *NM* - 17/08/2010 05:25:21 PM 671 Views
Okay. I guess i just forget how much larger Phoenix is *NM* - 17/08/2010 05:28:13 PM 563 Views
Google Earth says 500 feet between mosque and GZ *NM* - 17/08/2010 05:30:59 PM 583 Views
Clarify: 500 ft between the mosque and the border of the area on the map? *NM* - 17/08/2010 07:03:51 PM 593 Views
Probably, given my corner-to-corner result. *NM* - 17/08/2010 07:26:19 PM 602 Views
Yes, down West Broadway (contains old ground view from site) - 17/08/2010 07:31:58 PM 1424 Views
Personally, I think this supports Ave's point. - 17/08/2010 04:16:15 PM 1326 Views
yes... - 17/08/2010 04:29:51 PM 1333 Views
Right. - 17/08/2010 04:31:29 PM 1275 Views
Believe me, honey. - 17/08/2010 04:32:47 PM 1139 Views
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You know what else is on Park Place? A strip club. - 17/08/2010 11:58:56 PM 1173 Views
Really? I had no idea - 18/08/2010 12:06:27 AM 1268 Views
Re: Really? I had no idea - 18/08/2010 12:24:54 AM 1310 Views
Hmm... - 18/08/2010 01:23:14 AM 1245 Views
I didn't even know I was responding to you. - 18/08/2010 04:08:36 AM 1224 Views
Thanks - 18/08/2010 04:23:47 AM 1208 Views
It happens...? - 18/08/2010 01:29:44 PM 1033 Views
knowing there's a strip club and "walking those streets"; seems like you've "gotten around" - 18/08/2010 02:03:14 AM 1247 Views
*NM* - 18/08/2010 04:10:10 AM 593 Views
They're building on the hallowed ground of a Burlington Coat Factory! - 17/08/2010 04:13:06 PM 1315 Views
how so? - 17/08/2010 04:14:17 PM 1137 Views
Maybe it's got something to do with Cordoba, Spain? - 17/08/2010 04:16:38 PM 1150 Views
From when the Moors conquered Spain - 17/08/2010 04:18:18 PM 1378 Views
ah mk. fair enough then. *NM* - 17/08/2010 04:35:39 PM 710 Views
to clarify though - 17/08/2010 04:50:19 PM 1177 Views
in that respect, I rather like the name *NM* - 17/08/2010 05:23:18 PM 636 Views
Yes, but you have to remember the mindset of those protesting. - 17/08/2010 09:49:26 PM 1261 Views
Oh indeed - 18/08/2010 10:20:45 AM 1286 Views
Oh, yeah. I foolishly assumed people would know that part. *NM* - 18/08/2010 05:34:39 PM 602 Views
Sorry, but the card says it was "the Moops" so you must be wrong. - 18/08/2010 03:56:11 PM 1236 Views
Aaaaaaaaagh - 18/08/2010 04:13:17 PM 1219 Views
*NM* - 18/08/2010 05:31:20 PM 583 Views
Or a Christian conquest of Islam, surely. - 17/08/2010 05:07:53 PM 1336 Views
Right on the button. *NM* - 17/08/2010 04:19:39 PM 604 Views
Ezra Klein made a good point in the Washington Post... - 17/08/2010 04:33:31 PM 1152 Views
Re: Ezra Klein made a good point in the Washington Post... - 17/08/2010 04:34:47 PM 1182 Views
it was a rhetorical question in his column - 17/08/2010 04:43:25 PM 1294 Views
that is hardly the same thing - 17/08/2010 04:56:43 PM 1257 Views
so suppose... - 17/08/2010 06:06:03 PM 1184 Views
I am sure it will I just don't see the relevance - 17/08/2010 06:57:41 PM 1298 Views
My question is, why would you want to put a mosque/community center/thing that close? - 17/08/2010 04:39:05 PM 1211 Views
angry New Yorkers? - 17/08/2010 04:45:01 PM 1323 Views
I was going to guess 4 protests to your earlier post. - 17/08/2010 04:50:08 PM 1292 Views
Re: angry New Yorkers? - 17/08/2010 04:53:58 PM 1207 Views
I was wondering about that. - 17/08/2010 04:56:28 PM 1324 Views
Re: I was wondering about that. - 17/08/2010 05:05:50 PM 1287 Views
interesting map, thanks for posting it. *NM* - 17/08/2010 05:55:06 PM 653 Views
That's a good point too and I didn't think about that. - 17/08/2010 05:39:53 PM 1399 Views
I think what this position misses - 17/08/2010 05:01:52 PM 1453 Views
Ok, sure. - 17/08/2010 06:09:33 PM 1315 Views
Hoboken? - 17/08/2010 09:06:07 PM 1133 Views
Indeed. Not a serious suggestion about putting it there. - 17/08/2010 09:13:35 PM 1126 Views
angry New Yorkers? Geez, we are more civilized than that, thank you. *NM* - 18/08/2010 12:01:12 AM 574 Views
not really *NM* - 18/08/2010 02:31:46 AM 486 Views
your opinion is noted. now go eff yourself. *NM* - 18/08/2010 04:11:25 AM 533 Views
that's pretty good - 18/08/2010 04:44:14 AM 1213 Views
and a heart fuck off to you but thanks for the ironic reply *NM* - 18/08/2010 03:18:25 PM 575 Views
How is it ironic? *NM* - 18/08/2010 03:43:50 PM 594 Views
How was his uncivilized response ironic? *NM* - 18/08/2010 04:18:17 PM 557 Views
Yes. Where is the irony? - 18/08/2010 04:20:57 PM 1162 Views
Re: How was his uncivilized response ironic? - 18/08/2010 04:23:25 PM 1163 Views
Aaah - 18/08/2010 04:31:02 PM 1225 Views
Re: Aaah - 18/08/2010 05:30:07 PM 1166 Views
Re: Aaah - 18/08/2010 05:38:47 PM 1237 Views
To both of you: her. And she. *NM* - 18/08/2010 05:44:03 PM 577 Views
I knew that. *NM* - 18/08/2010 05:45:21 PM 556 Views
I'm not a New Yorker. Not impuning your civility either. - 19/08/2010 02:45:55 AM 1410 Views
Something I'm confused on - 17/08/2010 04:59:41 PM 1483 Views
another thing to consider. - 17/08/2010 05:02:38 PM 1191 Views
You'll have to explain to me what that has to do with what I said - 17/08/2010 05:10:21 PM 1196 Views
I don't think anyone is saying it's not "near" ground zero. - 17/08/2010 05:12:52 PM 1262 Views
Of course you're confused. It was a tangental thought. - 17/08/2010 06:06:29 PM 1243 Views
On that tangent though, an interesting article - 17/08/2010 07:50:44 PM 1268 Views
I understand there's also a strip club and a xxx movie rental shop within that same 2 blocks radius. - 17/08/2010 05:09:26 PM 1244 Views
Looks like 2 or 3 blocks, I love Google Earth - 17/08/2010 05:17:01 PM 1292 Views
True but the buildings were not nocked down by radical strippers *NM* - 17/08/2010 05:52:04 PM 581 Views
Joss Whedon purchased the rights to this movie already. *NM* - 17/08/2010 06:29:34 PM 638 Views
*NM* - 17/08/2010 06:38:27 PM 565 Views
Yep. Is true. *NM* - 17/08/2010 11:59:31 PM 594 Views
What do strip clubs and dirty movies and gay bars have to do with 9/11? *NM* - 18/08/2010 12:33:59 AM 604 Views
Nothing, which is precisely the point. *NM* - 18/08/2010 12:37:52 AM 606 Views
Can you explain your point to me then? Because I'm not following it. - 18/08/2010 01:21:13 AM 1176 Views
Pretty much what Greg said. - 18/08/2010 09:39:33 AM 1250 Views
then you are missing the point - 18/08/2010 04:02:49 PM 1306 Views
In all fairness... - 18/08/2010 09:46:26 PM 1257 Views
these guys are not babes in the woods - 19/08/2010 12:28:24 PM 1135 Views
I never said they were. - 20/08/2010 04:56:53 AM 1270 Views
Respond/Double post. *NM* - 20/08/2010 04:57:25 AM 521 Views
This whole debate disgusts me. - 17/08/2010 05:24:56 PM 1421 Views
I'm not going to ask why. *NM* - 17/08/2010 06:21:13 PM 564 Views
Agreed - 17/08/2010 08:10:34 PM 1372 Views
Yep, I see a lot of ugliness in this discussion - 18/08/2010 11:42:34 AM 1221 Views
Jon Stewart made good point last night - 17/08/2010 05:34:19 PM 1297 Views
but it's the CONCEPT!!! practical effect is not the POINT of political debate!! *NM* - 17/08/2010 05:53:30 PM 590 Views
which is why Obama was crazy to get anywhere this issue - 17/08/2010 06:01:44 PM 1164 Views
He's damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't - 17/08/2010 06:18:16 PM 1188 Views
that really isn't true - 17/08/2010 07:09:29 PM 1263 Views
yah he really should have just stayed mum about it - 17/08/2010 07:37:03 PM 1237 Views
Ye gods, I agree with you AND CELIA! - 18/08/2010 01:36:21 PM 1389 Views
double post - 17/08/2010 06:01:44 PM 1195 Views
Hatemongers gotta hate. - 17/08/2010 07:43:17 PM 1244 Views
More than anything, I see this being a sensitivity issue.... - 17/08/2010 07:43:45 PM 1219 Views
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Right on. - 17/08/2010 08:09:44 PM 1179 Views
yah, it sounds like the builders aren't being very thoughtful in their PR. - 17/08/2010 08:12:20 PM 972 Views
yah, it sounds like the builders aren't being very thoughtful in their PR. - 17/08/2010 08:12:21 PM 1244 Views
are you serious? - 17/08/2010 08:01:01 PM 1324 Views
I think you got the point right there. - 17/08/2010 08:08:21 PM 1239 Views
Yes, I am... - 17/08/2010 08:14:27 PM 1216 Views
The point is your analogy does not hold - 17/08/2010 08:19:29 PM 1212 Views
Plus - 17/08/2010 08:26:36 PM 1267 Views
Yes. That. *NM* - 17/08/2010 08:28:14 PM 1130 Views
we should all learn pool saftey from pigeons and sparrows. - 17/08/2010 08:37:37 PM 1147 Views
Sicko! - 17/08/2010 08:48:05 PM 1207 Views
Re: Yes, I am... - 17/08/2010 08:42:27 PM 1276 Views
Just to be a pain in the... - 17/08/2010 09:10:11 PM 1242 Views
Aren't they? - 17/08/2010 09:19:58 PM 1299 Views
You may be interested in... - 17/08/2010 09:23:48 PM 1387 Views
*nods* So I was right.... - 17/08/2010 09:26:59 PM 1103 Views
actually, it depends on the extent of the burning. - 17/08/2010 11:01:11 PM 1183 Views
That is probably not fair - 17/08/2010 11:12:22 PM 1205 Views
I know! - 18/08/2010 03:06:25 AM 1211 Views
it's all relative. - 18/08/2010 03:33:35 AM 1329 Views
Using a touch of hyperbole, perhaps? - 18/08/2010 10:18:36 AM 1238 Views
I'm so proud of you for noticing! - 18/08/2010 10:48:14 AM 1299 Views
Just making sure you knew I wasn't mistaking your reply for a constructive one - 18/08/2010 12:08:41 PM 1190 Views
I give constuctive replies where they are due - 18/08/2010 12:30:42 PM 1265 Views
- 18/08/2010 12:33:57 PM 1228 Views
- 18/08/2010 12:41:27 PM 1283 Views
Hey Snoop... - 18/08/2010 12:47:13 PM 1288 Views
What the hell were these people smoking? - 18/08/2010 02:14:44 PM 1389 Views
COMPLETELY unrelated point that I don't blame you for ignoring... - 19/08/2010 04:25:31 AM 1140 Views
And yet that's very close to what MADD and SADD do. - 18/08/2010 01:56:51 PM 1361 Views
you are right of course - 17/08/2010 08:22:23 PM 1185 Views
Re: you are right of course - 17/08/2010 08:34:31 PM 1368 Views
I agree. - 17/08/2010 08:46:07 PM 1147 Views
you could be correct but it still shows a lack of sensitivity - 17/08/2010 09:34:46 PM 1378 Views
I don't disagree that it's a sensitivity thing - 17/08/2010 08:10:01 PM 1339 Views
Re: I don't disagree that it's a sensitivity thing *NM* - 17/08/2010 08:29:59 PM 533 Views
This. - 17/08/2010 08:31:17 PM 1239 Views
So, you're saying muslims should leave nyc to show their sensitivity, right? - 17/08/2010 10:31:55 PM 1147 Views
so your saying you always speak in over the top rhetoric? - 18/08/2010 03:22:20 PM 1048 Views
Well explain what the difference is, then - 18/08/2010 07:14:46 PM 1197 Views
not really sure how to start - 18/08/2010 08:23:34 PM 1243 Views
THANK YOU - 18/08/2010 01:13:16 AM 1295 Views
Take deep breaths.. - 18/08/2010 05:25:16 AM 1192 Views
Typing a post didn't really require all that much effort - 18/08/2010 06:13:15 AM 1279 Views
There are more important things in the world to worry about - 18/08/2010 08:51:35 AM 1264 Views
I do get angry over other things, you know - 18/08/2010 10:02:02 AM 1255 Views
Pretty much, yeah. - 18/08/2010 09:00:09 PM 1238 Views
: - 18/08/2010 02:52:51 PM 1347 Views
So what, the Americans supporting this mosque are "arrogant European pricks"? - 18/08/2010 10:12:51 AM 1088 Views
Kind of a stretch for you to make that assumption - 18/08/2010 11:31:16 AM 1273 Views
I hadn't read that other exchange yet, it made more sense after that. - 18/08/2010 12:35:18 PM 1300 Views
A mosque was built in the Pentagon months after 9/11 - 18/08/2010 01:23:11 AM 1283 Views
Here comes the "xenophobia card." - 18/08/2010 01:27:50 AM 1281 Views
Which is why there was a bombing at another mosque earlier this year - 18/08/2010 01:31:51 AM 1213 Views
So? - 18/08/2010 01:39:49 AM 1302 Views
Re: A mosque was built in the Pentagon months after 9/11 - 18/08/2010 01:28:44 AM 1345 Views
Re: A mosque was built in the Pentagon months after 9/11 - 18/08/2010 01:34:22 AM 1288 Views
A guy on CNN made a really good point about this - 17/08/2010 08:46:54 PM 1331 Views
hmm yes but that black man hadn't killed his dog - 17/08/2010 09:22:15 PM 1263 Views
Re: hmm yes but that black man hadn't killed his dog - 17/08/2010 10:32:24 PM 1398 Views
precisely. - 17/08/2010 11:20:06 PM 1123 Views
Re: precisely. - 18/08/2010 01:32:09 AM 1226 Views
Re: precisely. - 18/08/2010 09:10:33 AM 1237 Views
not surprising that a guy on CNN made that point - 17/08/2010 09:38:16 PM 1321 Views
Yeah this whole debate is pretty pointless to be completely honest - 17/08/2010 10:28:13 PM 1276 Views
An interesting point - 18/08/2010 03:44:52 AM 1294 Views
In fairness, it's extremely hard to draw that line sometimes. - 18/08/2010 10:27:24 AM 1200 Views
well we have been shot at from enough mosque to make it hard to tell at times - 18/08/2010 08:25:58 PM 1266 Views
I think this whole debate has made American look bad. - 17/08/2010 10:58:23 PM 1177 Views
So what? - 18/08/2010 12:28:40 AM 1243 Views
Okay, so we're no longer the land of religous tolerance. - 18/08/2010 04:09:24 AM 1432 Views
Were we ever? - 18/08/2010 04:18:16 AM 1388 Views
I guess not. - 18/08/2010 04:25:03 AM 1363 Views
Re: I guess not. - 18/08/2010 05:56:49 AM 1212 Views
Re: I guess not. - 18/08/2010 10:43:05 AM 1219 Views
Re: I guess not. - 18/08/2010 12:13:37 PM 1046 Views
Re: I guess not. - 18/08/2010 09:30:21 PM 1162 Views
Yes, we were. - 18/08/2010 02:34:39 PM 1213 Views
Olberman's Special Comment on this one hits the nail on the head - 18/08/2010 01:29:45 AM 1282 Views
love that the Olberman video, but Jon Stewart did an awesome job too. *NM* - 18/08/2010 01:32:59 AM 525 Views
Olbermann and Stewart are possibly the two best people alive *NM* - 18/08/2010 02:39:48 AM 620 Views
they make the top of my list for people I wnat to catch an STD *NM* - 18/08/2010 08:27:27 PM 560 Views
Let me just say... - 18/08/2010 09:20:38 PM 1258 Views
Re: Let me just say... - 18/08/2010 09:22:12 PM 1231 Views
I didn't watch that particular video, so maybe, yeah. *NM* - 18/08/2010 10:11:22 PM 599 Views
Re: I didn't watch that particular video, so maybe, yeah. - 18/08/2010 10:45:54 PM 1284 Views
O'Reilly isn't as bad as he's made out to be. (edit) - 18/08/2010 11:10:33 PM 1267 Views
I'm pretty sure I agree with you. - 18/08/2010 10:48:09 PM 1168 Views
Why is it weird? - 18/08/2010 11:00:20 PM 1236 Views
dayum! thats like the ultimate insult *NM* - 19/08/2010 03:37:53 AM 547 Views
Stewart is great, but Olberman? You can't be serious. *NM* - 18/08/2010 11:23:17 PM 633 Views
I love that poem - 18/08/2010 12:26:58 PM 1369 Views
I used to be so Idealistic to think this was AMERICA. - 18/08/2010 01:44:38 AM 1322 Views
It is America - 18/08/2010 01:49:35 AM 1318 Views
the key phrase is "congress shall make no law...." - 18/08/2010 02:23:53 AM 1341 Views
14th ammendment changed that *NM* - 18/08/2010 04:51:08 AM 565 Views
14th ammendment established a state religion? - 18/08/2010 08:14:11 AM 1158 Views
No, but the Equal Protection Clause extended much of the BoR to the states. - 18/08/2010 02:50:31 PM 1283 Views
did you go the the Huffington Post school of law? - 18/08/2010 03:29:14 PM 1204 Views
No, but I've spent more time around lawyers than I care to admit. - 18/08/2010 03:45:36 PM 1301 Views
the defendent doesn't always get a complete picture *NM* - 18/08/2010 04:25:36 PM 567 Views
The only time I was ever in a courtroom was as a spectator. - 19/08/2010 04:33:56 PM 1285 Views
It was meant to be a short comment - 19/08/2010 01:13:39 AM 1317 Views
we also have freedom of speech - 18/08/2010 03:25:52 PM 1159 Views
The connection is inevitable and, I think, deliberate. - 18/08/2010 01:15:41 PM 1323 Views
Hmm - 18/08/2010 02:26:17 PM 1169 Views
Bottom line is it may be in everyones interest to DISassociate Islam from 911. - 18/08/2010 02:58:17 PM 1215 Views
No, bottom line is people need to be able to keep to thoughts in their brains at any given time *NM* - 18/08/2010 03:31:03 PM 559 Views
You mean retain both "I want to promote Islam" AND "Dude, Ground Zero is right THERE! *points*" - 18/08/2010 03:36:34 PM 1205 Views
No - 18/08/2010 03:43:08 PM 1233 Views
They clearly are tied to it. - 18/08/2010 03:59:45 PM 1269 Views
How long ago were the Crusades? - 18/08/2010 03:48:53 PM 1166 Views
Re: How long ago were the Crusades? - 18/08/2010 03:52:23 PM 1198 Views
So wait... - 18/08/2010 04:09:10 PM 1135 Views
Yes, Jerodam. Christians are good. All the rest are bad. I see it now. - 18/08/2010 04:10:47 PM 1233 Views
Stop freaking out Camilla. You are such a drama queen some times. - 18/08/2010 04:15:06 PM 1186 Views
That is not drama. That is fed up. *NM* - 18/08/2010 04:16:32 PM 628 Views
You're not the only one who is fed up.... - 18/08/2010 04:24:27 PM 1065 Views
*giggle* - 18/08/2010 04:29:03 PM 1241 Views
We don't know that.... - 18/08/2010 05:40:25 PM 1237 Views
We do - 18/08/2010 05:49:33 PM 1333 Views
Re: You're not the only one who is fed up.... - 18/08/2010 04:38:04 PM 1260 Views
This may be nitpicking, but I'll do it anyway because it's a widespread misconception... - 18/08/2010 04:30:20 PM 1179 Views
THANK YOU! - 18/08/2010 06:11:52 PM 1121 Views
Re: So wait... - 18/08/2010 04:45:53 PM 1141 Views
maybe it is actions that led to the crusades that never ended - 19/08/2010 12:25:20 PM 1068 Views
I have to agree with Jeo that that's unfair. - 19/08/2010 02:47:23 PM 1405 Views
The Crusades were by Christendom as a whole*, 9-11 isn't similar for Islam by some way - 18/08/2010 04:04:54 PM 1215 Views
Depends whom you ask, when and where. - 19/08/2010 03:06:18 PM 1152 Views
Right - 20/08/2010 10:31:21 AM 1212 Views
Some people will always wonder about such things; we're still accused of "Crusading" today. - 18/08/2010 04:07:02 PM 1203 Views
I don't disagree about the outreach, as such, but a remark... - 18/08/2010 04:37:52 PM 1085 Views
It's as much a local issue as the theme park Disney wanted to build at Gettysburg. - 19/08/2010 03:15:03 PM 1132 Views
Have you ever BEEN to Gettysburg? - 19/08/2010 05:21:18 PM 1064 Views
A bit more background information - 18/08/2010 05:30:04 PM 1360 Views
That's informative, thanks, but I'm not sure it really changes anything. - 19/08/2010 03:27:05 PM 1138 Views
Step One: Manufacture controversey by means of misinformation (i.e. Mosque at Ground Zero) - 19/08/2010 06:40:49 PM 1349 Views
To be fair - 20/08/2010 10:38:01 AM 1287 Views
The location of this mosque is a horrid idea. - 21/08/2010 05:34:58 PM 1140 Views
"Think of it as a center for muslim hippies." - 18/08/2010 09:30:55 PM 1247 Views
Can I just say... - 19/08/2010 01:45:38 AM 1111 Views
i have a side bar *NM* - 19/08/2010 03:36:10 AM 484 Views
you must have a teeny screen or a bad resolution - 19/08/2010 05:03:57 AM 1191 Views
I know. - 19/08/2010 12:20:11 PM 1266 Views
Roughly 2 football fields, yes. And around a corner - 19/08/2010 03:17:24 PM 1222 Views
Two hundred yards is nothing. - 19/08/2010 04:44:34 PM 1174 Views
Sure it is - it's two large city blocks - 19/08/2010 05:15:46 PM 1233 Views
It's two fairly average city blocks, and not even that some places. - 21/08/2010 06:07:33 PM 1193 Views
Well you can not like it if you choose - 25/08/2010 03:39:49 PM 1593 Views
You keep stating that this isn't about Islam. - 20/08/2010 11:06:10 AM 1280 Views
That's because it's not. - 21/08/2010 06:17:29 PM 1304 Views

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