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There was also the Gasdsen Purchase Isaac Send a noteboard - 17/08/2010 12:30:21 AM
I would agree that we didn't outright "take" the land, but it wasn't a friendly business transaction either.


I said purchased, I didn't say 'cheerful friendly deal' :P But let's be honest, Mexico controlled the Southwest as 'ink on a map' from 1821 on for a couple decades of almost non-stop civil war with the official president changing on a yearly (and often more often) basis. The Mexicans are certainly free to blame Santa Anna if they want, but by any reasonable standard the land is ours fair and square and more than fair, the natives might have gotten screwed, but not by us.
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At what point does it become ok to take over a country? Dark Knight - 16/08/2010 04:25:09 PM 1231 Views
why would we want to make Mexico our problem? *NM* random thoughts - 16/08/2010 04:30:48 PM 330 Views
Yeah that's why i don't want us to take over. I think the US is already too big as is *NM* Dark Knight - 16/08/2010 04:37:41 PM 303 Views
One might argue it already is. The other way around too, though. *NM* Legolas - 16/08/2010 04:44:19 PM 289 Views
Well, generally it's no longer seen as acceptable. Ghavrel - 16/08/2010 04:38:11 PM 865 Views
Revolución! *NM* Dark Knight - 16/08/2010 04:47:55 PM 303 Views
I'm fairly sure that yes, the majority of them have national pride. Legolas - 16/08/2010 04:51:38 PM 774 Views
Re: I'm fairly sure that yes, the majority of them have national pride. snoopcester - 16/08/2010 05:11:49 PM 637 Views
Actually, make that number 120 to 150. *NM* Legolas - 16/08/2010 05:14:15 PM 301 Views
We don't invade countries we can't locate on the map... Isaac - 16/08/2010 06:01:43 PM 849 Views
So that means there are only five or so countries you can invade, one of them yourself? Legolas - 16/08/2010 06:11:43 PM 595 Views
Re: So that means there are only five or so countries you can invade, one of them yourself? Isaac - 16/08/2010 06:30:56 PM 819 Views
Nah, they're willing to switch allegiances at the drop of a hat Brian - 16/08/2010 06:25:29 PM 665 Views
When it spills your pint and eyes up your woman? snoopcester - 16/08/2010 04:53:29 PM 744 Views
When they get on your nerves or have something you want, preferably both Isaac - 16/08/2010 05:04:10 PM 763 Views
I agree we should attack Canada instead random thoughts - 16/08/2010 05:19:48 PM 757 Views
Yeah, but they don't gouge us for the oil, cost the same as anyone else *NM* Isaac - 16/08/2010 05:49:38 PM 311 Views
I would legalize drugs ten times over before I would annex Mexico. Tom - 16/08/2010 05:36:37 PM 833 Views
"I would stop doing a bad thing 10 times over before I did a worse thing"? WTF? *NM* Cannoli - 16/08/2010 06:04:48 PM 384 Views
Read the original post. He proposes annexing Mexico due to the drug problem. Tom - 16/08/2010 06:28:54 PM 800 Views
He's just nitpicking on your phrasing in the subject line. I think. *NM* Legolas - 16/08/2010 06:37:17 PM 293 Views
that sounds like a much better immigration solution idea than "let's build a GIGANTIC FENCE!!!" *NM* LadyLorraine - 16/08/2010 06:33:46 PM 313 Views
Lol that rates right up there with the bridge to nowhere *NM* Dark Knight - 16/08/2010 06:49:19 PM 324 Views
Work Visas might help, but... Isaac - 16/08/2010 06:51:11 PM 951 Views
Oh i know it's not a complete solution and i have no problem with a fence LadyLorraine - 16/08/2010 07:43:26 PM 696 Views
Just so long as we're both on the 'multi-front solution' page Isaac - 16/08/2010 08:35:06 PM 610 Views
it's also worth noting that no one is proposing throwing out the Cubans LadyLorraine - 16/08/2010 08:54:46 PM 758 Views
When the US says so. We are the bosses of the World, are we not? *NM* Francie - 16/08/2010 08:06:08 PM 311 Views
west point? *NM* jh - 16/08/2010 08:56:58 PM 273 Views
Well take over and intervene are two totally different things Napoleon62 - 16/08/2010 09:00:50 PM 949 Views
never *NM* Yunalesca - 16/08/2010 09:05:03 PM 309 Views
Not even Hitler's Germany? (if he never went to war but just stayed put) Reply to Yuna *NM* Dark Knight - 16/08/2010 09:24:41 PM 401 Views
If he had never gone to war, that would also have meant no Holocaust... *NM* Legolas - 16/08/2010 09:28:16 PM 304 Views
Really? Why is that? I'm not too terribly familiar with Hitler's reasons for mass genocide *NM* Dark Knight - 16/08/2010 09:30:48 PM 307 Views
Er, not enough Jews to be a problem, to put it crudely. Legolas - 16/08/2010 09:50:41 PM 837 Views
Dachau opened in '33, Nuremburg Laws were '35 Isaac - 16/08/2010 09:36:59 PM 689 Views
Ok that's what I was thinking Dark Knight - 16/08/2010 09:45:51 PM 697 Views
Uh, yeah, see, there's a difference between "blaming" and "exterminating". Legolas - 16/08/2010 09:52:37 PM 733 Views
Re: Uh, yeah, see, there's a difference between "blaming" and "exterminating". Camilla - 16/08/2010 09:54:29 PM 663 Views
I don't know if there's really anything to specifically compare it to... Legolas - 16/08/2010 10:00:59 PM 832 Views
Also, perhaps someone should just invoke the (variation of the) Godwin Law and stop this whole thing Legolas - 16/08/2010 10:02:23 PM 740 Views
Ah, snoopcester - 16/08/2010 10:04:39 PM 645 Views
Nah, more like, I know I shouldn't have done this, but I couldn't resist. *NM* Legolas - 16/08/2010 10:07:35 PM 326 Views
I second the motion to invoke Godwin's Law for closure... Isaac - 16/08/2010 10:11:22 PM 782 Views
Perhaps snoopcester - 16/08/2010 09:46:55 PM 647 Views
Well, you'll note I didn't make that causal relation you attribute to me. Legolas - 16/08/2010 09:55:39 PM 774 Views
The Dachau follow up was bookkeeping Isaac - 16/08/2010 10:05:35 PM 725 Views
I'm confused, but I'll take that as something I don't have to argue. Legolas - 16/08/2010 10:09:16 PM 786 Views
Re: I'm confused, but I'll take that as something I don't have to argue. Isaac - 16/08/2010 10:19:19 PM 702 Views
The US already took half of Mexico, so why not the other half? Bramhodoulos - 16/08/2010 09:57:56 PM 772 Views
"Took" is an unfriendly word, we purchased it *NM* Isaac - 16/08/2010 10:21:58 PM 311 Views
yes after a messy political and physical "conflict" LadyLorraine - 16/08/2010 10:53:22 PM 744 Views
There was also the Gasdsen Purchase Isaac - 17/08/2010 12:30:21 AM 687 Views
The Gadsden Purchase was a pittance and an afterthought, as I'm sure you're aware. Joel - 18/08/2010 12:36:24 PM 608 Views
It is fairly large, but yes Isaac - 18/08/2010 02:21:25 PM 683 Views
Well, yes, it WAS a purchase, but then, it would be. Joel - 18/08/2010 03:22:23 PM 1123 Views
and why did it belong to Mexico to begin with? *NM* random thoughts - 17/08/2010 01:28:28 AM 343 Views
same way it seems to be the way most people who own the Americas came to own it. LadyLorraine - 17/08/2010 01:46:49 AM 563 Views
At least we took the time to conquer it random thoughts - 18/08/2010 05:20:57 PM 883 Views
well they were not using it *NM* random thoughts - 17/08/2010 01:27:47 AM 288 Views
Once you solved all your own problems, I'm sure. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 16/08/2010 10:58:28 PM 302 Views
my best friend is an illegal and is going back to mexico in a few months Delireus - 16/08/2010 11:28:11 PM 738 Views
every issue is simpler when you don't have faces to represent it for you. *NM* LadyLorraine - 16/08/2010 11:29:38 PM 313 Views
We should seal our border and peform drone strikes on cartels. everynametaken - 17/08/2010 12:58:37 AM 586 Views
Re: We should seal our border and peform drone strikes on cartels. Isaac - 17/08/2010 02:39:11 AM 656 Views
Re: We should seal our border and peform drone strikes on cartels. everynametaken - 17/08/2010 03:34:59 AM 817 Views
I think maybe we've had enough of nation building for a while *NM* damookster - 17/08/2010 02:45:22 AM 293 Views
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