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There was also the Gasdsen Purchase Isaac Send a noteboard - 17/08/2010 12:30:21 AM
I would agree that we didn't outright "take" the land, but it wasn't a friendly business transaction either.


I said purchased, I didn't say 'cheerful friendly deal' :P But let's be honest, Mexico controlled the Southwest as 'ink on a map' from 1821 on for a couple decades of almost non-stop civil war with the official president changing on a yearly (and often more often) basis. The Mexicans are certainly free to blame Santa Anna if they want, but by any reasonable standard the land is ours fair and square and more than fair, the natives might have gotten screwed, but not by us.
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At what point does it become ok to take over a country? Dark Knight - 16/08/2010 04:25:09 PM 1268 Views
why would we want to make Mexico our problem? *NM* random thoughts - 16/08/2010 04:30:48 PM 345 Views
Yeah that's why i don't want us to take over. I think the US is already too big as is *NM* Dark Knight - 16/08/2010 04:37:41 PM 319 Views
One might argue it already is. The other way around too, though. *NM* Legolas - 16/08/2010 04:44:19 PM 307 Views
Well, generally it's no longer seen as acceptable. Ghavrel - 16/08/2010 04:38:11 PM 909 Views
Revolución! *NM* Dark Knight - 16/08/2010 04:47:55 PM 321 Views
I'm fairly sure that yes, the majority of them have national pride. Legolas - 16/08/2010 04:51:38 PM 841 Views
Re: I'm fairly sure that yes, the majority of them have national pride. snoopcester - 16/08/2010 05:11:49 PM 676 Views
Actually, make that number 120 to 150. *NM* Legolas - 16/08/2010 05:14:15 PM 320 Views
We don't invade countries we can't locate on the map... Isaac - 16/08/2010 06:01:43 PM 901 Views
So that means there are only five or so countries you can invade, one of them yourself? Legolas - 16/08/2010 06:11:43 PM 634 Views
Re: So that means there are only five or so countries you can invade, one of them yourself? Isaac - 16/08/2010 06:30:56 PM 856 Views
Nah, they're willing to switch allegiances at the drop of a hat Brian - 16/08/2010 06:25:29 PM 705 Views
When it spills your pint and eyes up your woman? snoopcester - 16/08/2010 04:53:29 PM 781 Views
When they get on your nerves or have something you want, preferably both Isaac - 16/08/2010 05:04:10 PM 798 Views
I agree we should attack Canada instead random thoughts - 16/08/2010 05:19:48 PM 793 Views
Yeah, but they don't gouge us for the oil, cost the same as anyone else *NM* Isaac - 16/08/2010 05:49:38 PM 327 Views
I would legalize drugs ten times over before I would annex Mexico. Tom - 16/08/2010 05:36:37 PM 868 Views
"I would stop doing a bad thing 10 times over before I did a worse thing"? WTF? *NM* Cannoli - 16/08/2010 06:04:48 PM 405 Views
Read the original post. He proposes annexing Mexico due to the drug problem. Tom - 16/08/2010 06:28:54 PM 837 Views
He's just nitpicking on your phrasing in the subject line. I think. *NM* Legolas - 16/08/2010 06:37:17 PM 315 Views
that sounds like a much better immigration solution idea than "let's build a GIGANTIC FENCE!!!" *NM* LadyLorraine - 16/08/2010 06:33:46 PM 330 Views
Lol that rates right up there with the bridge to nowhere *NM* Dark Knight - 16/08/2010 06:49:19 PM 342 Views
Work Visas might help, but... Isaac - 16/08/2010 06:51:11 PM 993 Views
Oh i know it's not a complete solution and i have no problem with a fence LadyLorraine - 16/08/2010 07:43:26 PM 735 Views
Just so long as we're both on the 'multi-front solution' page Isaac - 16/08/2010 08:35:06 PM 644 Views
it's also worth noting that no one is proposing throwing out the Cubans LadyLorraine - 16/08/2010 08:54:46 PM 793 Views
When the US says so. We are the bosses of the World, are we not? *NM* Francie - 16/08/2010 08:06:08 PM 327 Views
west point? *NM* jh - 16/08/2010 08:56:58 PM 293 Views
Well take over and intervene are two totally different things Napoleon62 - 16/08/2010 09:00:50 PM 997 Views
never *NM* Yunalesca - 16/08/2010 09:05:03 PM 327 Views
Not even Hitler's Germany? (if he never went to war but just stayed put) Reply to Yuna *NM* Dark Knight - 16/08/2010 09:24:41 PM 416 Views
If he had never gone to war, that would also have meant no Holocaust... *NM* Legolas - 16/08/2010 09:28:16 PM 320 Views
Really? Why is that? I'm not too terribly familiar with Hitler's reasons for mass genocide *NM* Dark Knight - 16/08/2010 09:30:48 PM 326 Views
Er, not enough Jews to be a problem, to put it crudely. Legolas - 16/08/2010 09:50:41 PM 882 Views
Dachau opened in '33, Nuremburg Laws were '35 Isaac - 16/08/2010 09:36:59 PM 724 Views
Ok that's what I was thinking Dark Knight - 16/08/2010 09:45:51 PM 756 Views
Uh, yeah, see, there's a difference between "blaming" and "exterminating". Legolas - 16/08/2010 09:52:37 PM 775 Views
Re: Uh, yeah, see, there's a difference between "blaming" and "exterminating". Camilla - 16/08/2010 09:54:29 PM 709 Views
I don't know if there's really anything to specifically compare it to... Legolas - 16/08/2010 10:00:59 PM 876 Views
Also, perhaps someone should just invoke the (variation of the) Godwin Law and stop this whole thing Legolas - 16/08/2010 10:02:23 PM 781 Views
Ah, snoopcester - 16/08/2010 10:04:39 PM 692 Views
Nah, more like, I know I shouldn't have done this, but I couldn't resist. *NM* Legolas - 16/08/2010 10:07:35 PM 341 Views
I second the motion to invoke Godwin's Law for closure... Isaac - 16/08/2010 10:11:22 PM 827 Views
Perhaps snoopcester - 16/08/2010 09:46:55 PM 684 Views
Well, you'll note I didn't make that causal relation you attribute to me. Legolas - 16/08/2010 09:55:39 PM 819 Views
The Dachau follow up was bookkeeping Isaac - 16/08/2010 10:05:35 PM 766 Views
I'm confused, but I'll take that as something I don't have to argue. Legolas - 16/08/2010 10:09:16 PM 829 Views
Re: I'm confused, but I'll take that as something I don't have to argue. Isaac - 16/08/2010 10:19:19 PM 739 Views
The US already took half of Mexico, so why not the other half? Bramhodoulos - 16/08/2010 09:57:56 PM 812 Views
"Took" is an unfriendly word, we purchased it *NM* Isaac - 16/08/2010 10:21:58 PM 331 Views
yes after a messy political and physical "conflict" LadyLorraine - 16/08/2010 10:53:22 PM 781 Views
There was also the Gasdsen Purchase Isaac - 17/08/2010 12:30:21 AM 728 Views
The Gadsden Purchase was a pittance and an afterthought, as I'm sure you're aware. Joel - 18/08/2010 12:36:24 PM 646 Views
It is fairly large, but yes Isaac - 18/08/2010 02:21:25 PM 721 Views
Well, yes, it WAS a purchase, but then, it would be. Joel - 18/08/2010 03:22:23 PM 1167 Views
and why did it belong to Mexico to begin with? *NM* random thoughts - 17/08/2010 01:28:28 AM 359 Views
same way it seems to be the way most people who own the Americas came to own it. LadyLorraine - 17/08/2010 01:46:49 AM 604 Views
At least we took the time to conquer it random thoughts - 18/08/2010 05:20:57 PM 947 Views
well they were not using it *NM* random thoughts - 17/08/2010 01:27:47 AM 307 Views
Once you solved all your own problems, I'm sure. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 16/08/2010 10:58:28 PM 319 Views
my best friend is an illegal and is going back to mexico in a few months Delireus - 16/08/2010 11:28:11 PM 782 Views
every issue is simpler when you don't have faces to represent it for you. *NM* LadyLorraine - 16/08/2010 11:29:38 PM 330 Views
We should seal our border and peform drone strikes on cartels. everynametaken - 17/08/2010 12:58:37 AM 627 Views
Re: We should seal our border and peform drone strikes on cartels. Isaac - 17/08/2010 02:39:11 AM 696 Views
Re: We should seal our border and peform drone strikes on cartels. everynametaken - 17/08/2010 03:34:59 AM 863 Views
I think maybe we've had enough of nation building for a while *NM* damookster - 17/08/2010 02:45:22 AM 310 Views
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