we are used to it.
Stop grumbling, people. It is all of £10 a year! That is about the same as four cups of coffee.
It's not like "this is just the way Mike always did it at wotmania" has been the prevailing driver of decisions around here Look, people who perceive added value in the premium account/can afford to purchase them will, and people who don't/can't won't. Just like at wotmania. I don't see anything wrong with taking this opportunity to question whether there might be a better way to fund the site. Seems to me to be rather in the spirit of things, actually, so I don't see it as "grumbling" at all.
It comes across as bitching.
When Mike took money for something he made years ago and didn't bother to update, nobody questioned it. When Ben wants money for something he has spent countless hours making for us, suddenly it should be free.
I don't see it as bitching. I don't know if it's true that nobody questioned it at wotmania. People bitched about everything at wotmania, so I find it impossible to believe nobody bitched about this I wasn't around back when premium accounts first started to be sold, but also those might have been features that weren't commonly found on free websites at that time. By the time I came around people were used to it (as you say) and then there was a system in place for people who wanted to have a premie but didn't want to spend the money on it, so less need to bitch about it I suppose.
There are plenty of genuinely good reasons for people to buy premium accounts. That Mike sold them at wotmania isn't one of them. There also might be better ways to fund the site (and there might not). Ben doesn't owe anyone an explanation, obviously, but I see nothing wrong with a little pushback about what else may or may not have been considered.
If you are from Betelgeuse, please have one of your Earth friends read what I've written before you respond. Or try concentrating harder.
"The trophy problem has become extreme."
"The trophy problem has become extreme."
EDIT: Remember folks, today's the last day of the free premium accounts!
06/07/2010 08:52:02 PM
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I see that you've also fixed the spelling of "received" in the noteboards.
06/07/2010 09:08:00 PM
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Throw in a pair of dinosaur socks and an Indiana Jones 'monkey-head' soup bowl and I'm sold.
06/07/2010 11:46:47 PM
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Just how much bandwidth is Read and Find out using per month?
11/07/2010 05:50:02 AM
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Oh Jing.
12/07/2010 08:05:31 PM
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While hosting can be had that cheap, I certainly wouldn't want to use it.
13/07/2010 12:04:55 AM
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You want to charge people for functionality every other forum on the web gives them for free?
14/07/2010 08:47:32 PM
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It is exactly the same stuff Mike asked money for
14/07/2010 09:00:55 PM
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Why can't people even ask the question(s)?
14/07/2010 09:22:11 PM
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The messageboards are perfectly functional without a premium account.
14/07/2010 09:17:43 PM
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I see it as a way of giving people something back for donations.
14/07/2010 10:09:08 PM
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He does have a point when it comes to hyperlinks.
15/07/2010 06:52:41 PM
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Viable alternatives
15/07/2010 01:16:39 AM
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Advertising makes a site look like shit.
16/07/2010 08:28:00 AM
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Only if you choose to let it.
16/07/2010 12:17:47 PM
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This is just the BBforum argument rehashed.
16/07/2010 06:07:20 PM
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But those are the very things being introduced by the premium accounts.
17/07/2010 12:44:05 PM
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As I've said above...
16/07/2010 01:49:37 PM
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Re: As I've said above...
16/07/2010 05:58:39 PM
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Premium Plus account does.
16/07/2010 06:05:07 PM
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What's the point if people can't see my obnoxious, animated avatar?!
16/07/2010 06:10:03 PM
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Good lord Ghavrel, you're just posting straw men. Don't put words in people's mouths. *NM*
16/07/2010 07:08:20 PM
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No, I'm mocking your arguments because they are dumb. Difference! :p *NM*
17/07/2010 02:21:43 AM
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That at least is not a problem, as the premium accounts are introducing them to the site.
17/07/2010 12:46:33 PM
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They aren't displayed, so I don't mind. But what is "far worse" than other SFF forums? *NM*
17/07/2010 10:08:47 PM
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Re: Premium Plus account does.
16/07/2010 06:13:17 PM
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It's a start
16/07/2010 06:37:44 PM
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Just signed up for Premium Plus.....and totally un-Britished the calendar/time zone
17/07/2010 05:48:39 AM
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Sounds like a bargain to me. This must have taken an unbelievable amount of work to set up.
26/07/2010 07:48:16 PM
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