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"Round" includes "ovular" as well as "spherical. " Joel Send a noteboard - 02/07/2010 10:04:24 AM

It's football because you advance the ball by running; in rugby you can't throw it forward, and the same was long true in US gridiron also (you still can't throw it forward more than once, and there are a number of other significant restrictions on doing so even then. )


And that argument is, no offense, completely idiotic. In handball they advance the ball by running, too, but since they carry the ball in their hands and throw it into the goal with their hands, they went for the very logical name "handball". In basketball they advance the ball by running, too, but they called their sport after the most distinctive aspect of it, the basket.

Now obviously American football has *some* cases in which the feet are still used, though even less than in "rugby football" (where kicking the ball forward and then running to go catch it can be a valid tactic, as you're not allowed to be tackled when you don't have the ball). But considering that that's limited almost entirely to field goals, it's perfectly valid to make the point Floffe made: the name simply doesn't cover the content of the game.

Gridiron has changed over the years, but we retain the original name, in part because of traditionalists like those who never liked the forward pass and the modern ones who still wish it were used less. I, for example, like passing but think it's too much a part of the modern game; passing is a risky proposition (to quote the line attributed to every college coach since at least Woody Hayes, "only three things can happen when you throw a pass, and two of them are bad. " ) Unless there's a big payoff it's stupid to accept a big risk; if you're playing a ball control game where four or five yards on a single play is considered pretty good, and regular first downs with few turnovers are vital, running is the way to go. In my view, you should pass for scores and first downs; otherwise, you should throw just often enough that the defense doesn't take it for granted that you're running (in which case they'll stack eight or nine guys on the line of scrimmage and running will become very difficult very fast. ) Still and so, the recipe for winning once you gain the lead is still the same: run the ball, nearly certain to move it farther from your goal at least a little every time, taking time off the clock with little risk of a turnover, then count on your D and decent punting to win the field position battle. As recently as fifteen or twenty years ago a team that passed more than it ran was synonymous with a team that lost more than it won.

In the golden age of college ball, however, it was all about punting and field goal kicking, with a ton of running in the interim. 6-0 scores were common, both because TDs were rare and because extra points really were accomplishing something "extra. " It helped that the goalposts were still on the goal line instead of the back of the endzone; Jim Thorpe used to spend part of his pregame at midfield, drop kicking a ball over one goal post before turning around drop kicking one over the other. Which is why he accounted for a lot of 3-0 and 6-0 Canton wins. ;)

But, yeah, we'll stop calling it "football" about the same time we stop saying, "soccer. " I think the Moon landing was the last time America was really committed to the new, unprecedented and risky.
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So, soccer is actually a British term- who knew? - 02/07/2010 04:09:26 AM 753 Views
That doesn't change the fact that calling a game played with hands and an oval "football" is silly *NM* - 02/07/2010 07:22:33 AM 213 Views
You've been seeing too much John Cleese haven't you? - 02/07/2010 08:55:49 AM 602 Views
Wait, so "spherical" is implicit in the term "football"? - 02/07/2010 09:14:07 AM 475 Views
You must have missed the "ball" part. You know, round object? - 02/07/2010 09:38:15 AM 487 Views
"Round" includes "ovular" as well as "spherical. " - 02/07/2010 10:04:24 AM 649 Views
The objec used in rugby is called a ball. - 02/07/2010 12:35:17 PM 508 Views
It is called an egg - 02/07/2010 12:37:02 PM 499 Views
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It's round if you view it point on. *NM* - 03/07/2010 01:01:25 AM 193 Views
Soccer players use their hands and football players use their feet - 03/07/2010 12:57:18 AM 498 Views
That's really nitpicking and you know it. - 03/07/2010 01:41:31 AM 421 Views
I knew, and have pointed out much of this on several occasions. - 02/07/2010 09:11:38 AM 431 Views
Same. *NM* - 02/07/2010 09:51:16 AM 183 Views
Yes but only upper class rugger buggers use it - 02/07/2010 11:32:33 AM 473 Views
You can't be snide about being working class and upper class in the same thread *NM* - 02/07/2010 12:52:50 PM 191 Views
Yes I bally well can! - 02/07/2010 01:03:38 PM 466 Views
Two words: - 02/07/2010 02:34:25 PM 479 Views
Okay, to be serious - 02/07/2010 02:55:13 PM 489 Views
I don't think you understand. - 02/07/2010 02:59:56 PM 479 Views
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Re: I don't think you understand. - 02/07/2010 10:36:17 PM 415 Views
I knew, because Liam up there told me. Aqaaages ago *NM* - 03/07/2010 04:41:55 AM 275 Views

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