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I'd say most urban areas have few roads with speed limits above 50 km/h (30mph) Floffe Send a noteboard - 01/07/2010 10:35:20 AM
The point of my post was not that cyclists should get run over because they're annoying, only that they get run over because they put themselves in stupidly dangerous situations. You know how stupid it is to bike up a hill in a 45mph zone? Cars are driving by at at least 45mph and a bike is hobbling up at what? Maybe 15mph? Any decent human being will watch out for the cyclist going up a hill. They'll just be annoyed that they have to slow down, waste gas, and get to their destination a little later because Lance Wannabe can't take the bus or buy a treadmill. Now this source of annoyance isn't the source of the danger, it's only a SIGN that what Lance Wannabe is doing is DANGEROUS. Why is driver a annoyed? Because he has to put relatively considerable time and focus to looking out for Lance Wannabe (not that there's anything wrong with that, just stating the facts). The reason that he is annoyed is just why it's so dangerous. Because sooner or later, someone is going to make a mistake. Driver x will be talking on the phone, distracted by the kids in the back seat, driving drunk, fall asleep at the wheel, any number of things that can deprive them of the necessary focus to adapt to Lance Wannabe. In a perfect world, every driver could adapt and focus at all times. But humans are not perfect and neither is our world. Cyclists willfully put themselves in dangerous situations, then expect everyone else to adhere to a more perfect standard on their account. This is unfair, and plain stupid.

Get off your bike seat and wake up. You're endangering yourself by cycling in a busy, urban, roadway. That's a fact. Cars will do their best, but you don't own the road. Cars will make mistakes. They will kill you sometimes because either you or they inevitably makes a mistake. Getting mad at us drivers won't solve the problem. Getting on a stationary bike will.

Also, a stationary bike will not fit the purpose of transportation.
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I got screamed at by a motorist while riding my bicycle today - 28/06/2010 05:44:45 AM 1663 Views
Ummm - 28/06/2010 06:01:19 AM 1279 Views
Let me guess. You live in an American suburb. *NM* - 28/06/2010 06:12:24 AM 547 Views
Sorry, but no. - 28/06/2010 06:17:20 AM 1080 Views
I think you missed the part... - 28/06/2010 06:22:35 AM 1030 Views
Now that I've calmed down a bit, I'm going to actually address your points. - 28/06/2010 12:16:10 PM 1402 Views
hey now! - 28/06/2010 01:18:16 PM 936 Views
See apology below. *NM* - 29/06/2010 08:34:17 AM 567 Views
it's okay dude i was just giving you a hard time *NM* - 29/06/2010 09:24:56 AM 554 Views
I understand that what he said offended you - 28/06/2010 04:11:57 PM 1164 Views
My social capital at this site is pretty low, so I don't mind admitting that I agree with MK. - 28/06/2010 04:12:42 PM 1036 Views
This point: - 28/06/2010 06:37:32 PM 1141 Views
Not in the United States. - 28/06/2010 07:25:56 PM 1131 Views
Highways are, of course, a different matter. - 28/06/2010 07:32:50 PM 1091 Views
I know - 28/06/2010 07:34:04 PM 1199 Views
Re: I know - 28/06/2010 08:27:04 PM 1052 Views
Re: I know - 28/06/2010 08:38:14 PM 1179 Views
That makes me mad. - 28/06/2010 08:46:58 PM 1162 Views
Don't be mad - 28/06/2010 08:52:47 PM 999 Views
Re: I know - 28/06/2010 09:15:22 PM 1140 Views
To your last question: Arlington County, VA - 30/06/2010 03:29:55 AM 972 Views
It is illegal to drive on the shoulder. - 29/06/2010 09:43:40 AM 1170 Views
Maybe I should have said "modern roads." - 28/06/2010 08:20:55 PM 1142 Views
Perhaps. - 28/06/2010 08:36:15 PM 1193 Views
I think we just disagree on the necessity is all. - 28/06/2010 09:00:44 PM 966 Views
Matters of degree, I suppose. - 28/06/2010 09:07:40 PM 979 Views
Yes, because that cyclist is SUCH a hazard to you in your car. - 29/06/2010 01:03:05 AM 1119 Views
The central issue is people. - 29/06/2010 09:52:22 AM 1097 Views
you keep talking about cyclists on highways as if it applied to all roads. - 29/06/2010 02:37:31 PM 1156 Views
There are TWO equally important points there: - 30/06/2010 01:15:17 AM 1158 Views
Re: I think we just disagree on the necessity is all. - 02/07/2010 09:19:13 PM 1105 Views
Two words: Public Transportation - 30/06/2010 03:32:05 AM 1127 Views
three words: share the road - 30/06/2010 04:08:28 AM 1148 Views
Re: three words: share the road - 01/07/2010 08:03:54 AM 1201 Views
Re: Two words: Public Transportation - 30/06/2010 08:43:51 AM 1305 Views
Re: Two words: Public Transportation - 01/07/2010 08:05:37 AM 1133 Views
Re: Two words: Public Transportation - 01/07/2010 08:40:10 AM 1068 Views
How the hell is a 7,000 person town Urban? - 01/07/2010 08:52:45 AM 1144 Views
Re: How the hell is a 7,000 person town Urban? - 04/07/2010 12:30:43 AM 1083 Views
Re: How the hell is a 7,000 person town Urban? - 05/07/2010 09:03:03 AM 1157 Views
I'd say you have it exactly the wrong way round. - 01/07/2010 09:41:27 AM 1215 Views
You can't be serious. If you do think that's always (not just sometimes) a viable option, then... - 30/06/2010 09:20:03 AM 1080 Views
Really? - 01/07/2010 08:07:29 AM 884 Views
Have you heard of Britain? - 01/07/2010 08:38:11 AM 1116 Views
My city doesn't have ANY. not even shuttle buses. *NM* - 01/07/2010 06:00:22 AM 629 Views
My city doesn't have anything eather. *NM* - 04/07/2010 12:32:52 AM 715 Views
You do realize that... - 28/06/2010 08:38:39 PM 1111 Views
Bikers can be equally as rude, I agree. - 29/06/2010 03:00:18 AM 1127 Views
heh - 29/06/2010 04:45:46 AM 1086 Views
Despite your subject line, I'm glad to see that we agree with each other more than MK and I do. - 29/06/2010 10:13:29 AM 1188 Views
Get your head on straight, you silly cyclist - 01/07/2010 08:02:58 AM 983 Views
I'd say most urban areas have few roads with speed limits above 50 km/h (30mph) - 01/07/2010 10:35:20 AM 1032 Views
Now now, there's no need to be rude. - 02/07/2010 12:04:16 AM 1200 Views
Re: Now now, there's no need to be rude. - 04/07/2010 05:53:01 PM 983 Views
What part of "there are no alternatives" don't you understand? - 04/07/2010 09:10:23 PM 1055 Views
What part of my post did you not read...? - 05/07/2010 09:01:32 AM 1226 Views
I agree entirely. - 28/06/2010 05:27:36 PM 1237 Views
Really???? - 28/06/2010 04:59:12 PM 1111 Views
that's always really annoying - 28/06/2010 06:27:07 AM 1261 Views
Re: I got screamed at by a motorist while riding my bicycle today - 28/06/2010 03:25:22 PM 941 Views
Are they supposed to use sidewalks anywhere? *NM* - 28/06/2010 04:58:50 PM 528 Views
I doubt it. *NM* - 28/06/2010 05:32:17 PM 476 Views
my daughter rides her bike on the sidewalk all the time - 28/06/2010 06:07:01 PM 1087 Views
Not sure, but - 28/06/2010 06:53:14 PM 986 Views
That all depends on what kind of road, I guess. - 28/06/2010 07:09:52 PM 1118 Views
we actually have a lot of cyclists on one of our 50mph roads - 29/06/2010 01:08:31 AM 999 Views
I would - 28/06/2010 07:25:22 PM 997 Views
You've alluded to that a few times now. - 28/06/2010 07:42:05 PM 979 Views
a lot of the time they do in smaller cities - 29/06/2010 01:05:38 AM 901 Views
Of course. Most bikers not in the mid-size to larger cities do. - 29/06/2010 03:06:03 AM 956 Views
Re: Are they supposed to use sidewalks anywhere? - 02/07/2010 09:57:46 PM 996 Views
That sucks - 28/06/2010 04:34:35 PM 933 Views
You have every right to be on the road. The guy was an ass. - 28/06/2010 07:30:23 PM 1052 Views
I'm so glad I actually READ what you said before responding. - 29/06/2010 09:16:25 AM 1116 Views
?? I thought it was matter of COURSE that bikes weren't allowed on the highway - 29/06/2010 09:27:06 AM 1068 Views
Should be, but it's not. - 29/06/2010 09:59:35 AM 1060 Views
Question for you. - 29/06/2010 10:22:13 AM 909 Views
and i haven't said that anywhere. - 29/06/2010 02:39:06 PM 942 Views
That is what you get for living in Austin *NM* - 29/06/2010 02:38:20 PM 596 Views
about the driving on the shoulder thing - 29/06/2010 02:49:29 PM 1146 Views

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