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I agree with your title. Vodalus Send a noteboard - 21/06/2010 03:21:59 AM
Additionally, while the US may have been right to not interfere too directly with the Green Movement in Iran, it is now clear that they have no ability to change the situation (at least for the time being). As such, I don't think we should base any Iran policy considerations on how the Green Movement will be affected. If bombing them will "kill" a movement that is impotent anyway, and bombing will set the regime back in its progress towards a bomb, then I say bomb. Bomb now. Bomb often. Keep bombing until we have been bombing Iran every day for ten years. Destroy every bridge, power station, barracks, factory and tank in the nation if need be, Green Movement be damned.

You're not thinking long term, the green movement is not a short-term revolutionary force you want it to be - it's in fact much more profound than that. The broad coalition of young people, merchants, intellectuals, and religious leaders that took to the streets to protest the reelection of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad a year ago has been spectacularly successful in achieving the one goal that they all had common: the de-legitimization of the Iranian regime. Put simply, the Green Movement, through its blood and sacrifice, has convinced almost all Iranians, regardless of their piety or their politics, that the Islamic Republic in its current iteration is neither Islamic nor a republic. The Regime itself is slowing dieing, it's not a question of IF, it's a question of WHEN.


The Green Movement morphed from Mousavi's platform to a protest movement and then to a civil rights movement. But I think the GM is pretty much moribund at this point. Any shake ups in the near-term will, I imagine, come in the form of individuals or perhaps factions, from Qom or from within the Abadgaran, being removed from positions of power.

70% of Iran's current population were children or were born after the Islamic revolution. They are the future of Iran and probably the most pro-western, pro-american population in the Middle east and Central Asia. And that population is the future of Iran. You're idea of "Bomb now. Bomb often." is a spectacular way of embittering that population of Iranians against the United States, and will only ensure that the regime will remain in power for generations to come. Iran is on the verge of the most significant social movement it has experienced in three decades. Whether for good or for bad, the Iran that ultimately rises out of the ashes of last summer’s uprising will be unlike the Iran we know today, and for that we can thank the Green Movement.
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