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all the loons say that and expect it to be true random thoughts Send a noteboard - 10/06/2010 04:15:33 PM
You do realize the CEO is elected by the board. Anything that the CEO wants to do has to be approved by the board. What would be the point of Obama calling Tony Hayward when there's already communication between BP and government officials? I think the President has better things to do with his time than to hear Tony complaining about how he want's "his life back"


You do realize that CEO stand for Chief Executive Officer which means he is in charge. Sorry if you see no value in talking to the guy who is in charge of stopping the oil. All Obama showed us with this silly excuse is that he really doesn’t even understand the concept of leadership.

not really sure what you are talking about here so I can only assume you are either projecting or grossly misunderstanding.


In your own words, http://www.readandfindout.com/community/messageboard/94363/


Like I assumed, you didn't understand. What I said was that if we are going to use oil there has to be wells and it is better to drill where we can control it. Something we need to do a better job and something Obama made a big deal out of his campaign then sort of forgot about when he came into office. If it was Mexico who had drilled this well do you believe we would be a better position? Would it be OK if this oil was washing up on the coast of Africa with a country that has almost no means to fight it?

I stand by my position that stopping domestic drilling without changing oil consumption does nothing to protect the environment and this situation in no way proves me wrong.

I thought you guys wanted the government to take over and run everything and then make everyone wear color coded jump suits.

Let's face it, at this point, they couldn't have done any worse than BP.


Yes they could. It can always get worse.

Not sure who you mean by "you guys" I support intelligent regulation and sorry it is the governments responsibility to ensure the companies with the leases follow the regulations. Of course candidate Obama believed the same thing but president Obama seems to have more in common with president Bush on this issue than with candidate Obama.

You can't enforce regulations when you have no regulators with teeth. MMS is filled with people from the oil industry. And considering it's conservatives who've been fighting tooth and nail against greater oversight of offshore drilling. I find it incredibly perverse they criticizing that government for lack of oversight.

Nice rant and I understand some some on the left are getting very worked up because they can't stand to see Obama being publicly criticized but you are wrong. Other companies have deep sea capabilities and they could have been brought in when it became apparent that BP couldn't handle it. I assume companies like Exxon and Shell might know something about the subject and may have some limited capability. The Dutch have the ability to help and offered it three days into this but they were turned down until just recently. This is not just BP's problem, it may be their fault but it is our problem and Obama is behind the wheel and just now seems to be getting the idea that it is his problem as well.

I'm not worked up that Obama is being criticized, but lets keep this honest. Criticize him for things he actually has power over, he doesn't have the power to stop oil leaking into gulf. After all, if we're suddenly going expect government to have technology and expertise to solve this, then what's the point of having private oil contractors?


Obama is responsible to do what he can to minimize the damage of any disaster no matter who is at fault and simply being personally engaged would be a big step. No he cannot personally stop the leak and short of using a nuke there is nothing the Navy can do to stop the leak. That doesn't mean it isn't his problem and he shouldn't be talking to people involved and ensuring that everything that can be done is being done.

I see you ignore the point we has done nothing to engage other private contractors but has instead thrown his hands in the air and spent most of energy trying to blame Bush instead.

As much fun as it is blame the evil oil companies doing so does nothing to close the damn hole. As for the anger that Obama would take the blame, it is national disaster and it is his watch. Bush took the blame for Katrina even though the really failing was with the state and local government. Like most issues has no only Obama has shown no leadership but doesn't even seem to be aware that he is supposed to.

The difference being, this is a man-made disaster caused by a private company. Katrina was a natural disaster, the government actually has expertise, experience, and the resources to provide food, water, shelter. Which is why it's falling was so apalling. Not to mention thousands of Americans died. It's fair to criticize government for not properly preparing for the oil cleanup, but to criticize it for not being able to plug a hole miles below the ocean, it simply not rational.


A disaster is a disaster no matter who caused it. I don't blame Obama for not being able to plug the hole I blame him for not showing leadership and treating this like he would any other disaster. If he had been fully engaged in this situation before it became a political issue I wouldn't have a problem. It seems that up until now he has pretty much left things to the Coast Guard and BP. He is the leader of the free world and has a lot of weight to throw around if he chooses. I simple meeting where brought in all the important people and explained to them in no uncertain terms that he was not taking any excuses but expected them to do any and everything possible to stop the leak and minimize the damage. I guess that would have interfered with his speeches and fund raising not to mention golf game.

If you look at what really went wrong with Katrina and the human suffer right after the storm it was mainly caused by failures at the state and local level. Bush is not the one who didn't evacuate the city or who shoved a bunch of people into a football stadium with almost no security or even enough food and water to last for the three days they are told it will take for federal resources to arrive. It was the state government who decided to put the priority on getting people out instead of getting supplies in. None of that makes up for the fact that the federal government failed to lead and didn’t step in when they were needed.

bad BP. Happy? BP is not answerable to the American people but it is answerable to our government and the government is answerable to the people. Solve the damn problem then figure out who to blame not the other way around. Obama has already started criminal investigation, does he really think that will make it easier to fix the immediate problem. Even a community organizer with no leadership skills should understand BP is going circle the wagons when the prosecutors show up and start threatening to throw people in prison.

Oh please, BP and Transocean were lawyering up well before that. You do realize that government is going to need to build a case against BP or Transocean whether to prove negligence (to get around the 75 million cap) or possibly criminal charges, so why not get started on that now? 11 workers are dead for heavens sake, why should their not be criminal investigation? Considering it can take years to build a case. I think that's important, it would add more pressure to BP and put their feet to the fire.


Gather papers and evidence by all means. When you start trying to put people in prison stopping the leak begins to take a backseat to not going to prison. Some of them may be to pretty for prison. This is about politics not about solving the problem. Again a failure of leadership.
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