...is that these children should be forced to wear shirts that say "Christianity is of the Devil" on them. If they're such proponents for free speech, they should have no issue with this.
No law was broken. The only legal issue isn't about whether or not the people or their kids were in the wrong, it's whether the school had the right to ban the shirts, which they typically do, but usually this is cited under a 'no messages' rule. i.e. as far as the law is concerned wearing a John Edwards for Pres t-shirt, a islam is bad t-shirt, and a save the whales t-shirt are exactly the same, you ban all or you ban none. Your suggestion would be akin to making someone who wore a t-shirt saying 'We only have one planet' wear a t-shirts saying 'Torch the rain forests'.
Let's keep in mind that the first amendment is there to protect unpopular speech, popular speech has never needed protection, no one ever gets dragged away by secret police in the middle of the night for saying how much they like their dictator.
I think these parents are ignorant bigots, but my opinion, and yours, mean nadda. The t-shirts are totally legal, but schools can ban things as disruptive and for pretty much the same reason they can ban students from having cellphones. When they do they leave themselves open to legal action if they can be shown to have ignored equivalent offenses after being alerted to them. The shirt is simply no different than one saying 'Jesus saves' or 'Allah ackbar", neither of which I find offensive, since I consider them true statements, but morally and legally no different than ones which say 'Jesus doesn't save' or "God isn't great" Now, I wouldn't consider a parent bigoted, wicked or ignorant for letting their kid wear a shirt which said 'Jesus saves' to school, so where's the difference? The school has a right to ban things as distracting or disruptive, to do so they need only show reasonable evidence that something is either and enforce it with some degree of even-handedness.
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
- Albert Einstein
King of Cairhien 20-7-2
Chancellor of the Landsraad, Archduke of Is'Mod
- Albert Einstein
King of Cairhien 20-7-2
Chancellor of the Landsraad, Archduke of Is'Mod
Islam is of the Devil
06/09/2009 03:30:51 AM
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This statement got me:
06/09/2009 06:30:16 AM
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What you say about those places may be true
06/09/2009 02:16:30 PM
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Regardless...
07/09/2009 04:34:48 AM
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Re: Regardless...
07/09/2009 06:10:18 AM
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I'm not advocating the killing of Muslims.
08/09/2009 07:11:13 PM
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You are free to wear offensive clothing
08/09/2009 08:13:18 PM
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There is a difference between hatred and truth.
09/09/2009 04:04:02 PM
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You do know christans have done that as well don't you?
09/09/2009 06:04:28 PM
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The difference is...
09/09/2009 06:16:13 PM
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really have you actaully read the Qur'an
09/09/2009 06:33:38 PM
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Acrually No I don't.
09/09/2009 07:52:19 PM
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Someone should have told Jesus the OT was void
09/09/2009 10:31:39 PM
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Jesus was the one who voided it.
10/09/2009 12:25:18 AM
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Logicaly, this is a stupid post.
06/09/2009 03:58:43 PM
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As an Englishman, why are you even posting in this thread then? *NM*
07/09/2009 02:49:22 AM
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Because I can.
07/09/2009 10:15:57 AM
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So can he.
07/09/2009 07:54:56 PM
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Yes
08/09/2009 05:59:24 AM
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It means a lot in context to the situation
08/09/2009 07:14:50 PM
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No, it does not.
08/09/2009 07:20:49 PM
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So now you can tell me what I can and can't do with my children?
08/09/2009 11:31:16 PM
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I can tell you what you can't make your children do in school.
08/09/2009 11:59:21 PM
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Re: I can tell you what you can't make your children do in school.
09/09/2009 04:10:19 PM
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Re: I can tell you what you can't make your children do in school.
09/09/2009 04:27:32 PM
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Define "disruptive".
09/09/2009 06:19:36 PM
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The thing I think you are missing...
06/09/2009 07:18:45 PM
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Wait, what?
06/09/2009 08:29:14 PM
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That is why America is different than those countries. Duh. *NM*
06/09/2009 07:58:53 PM
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I don't think I understand your basic reasoning. You can't be saying what it sounds like.
08/09/2009 01:40:42 AM
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Re: I don't think I understand your basic reasoning. You can't be saying what it sounds like.
08/09/2009 07:18:00 PM
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"Their government" is the American government. *NM*
08/09/2009 07:36:27 PM
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And yet I don't see CAIR..
09/09/2009 04:07:05 PM
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Really?
08/09/2009 08:02:42 PM
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Re: I don't think I understand your basic reasoning. You can't be saying what it sounds like.
08/09/2009 11:49:48 PM
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I'm appalled that this was even worthy of note
06/09/2009 06:46:58 AM
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I believe the rest of the Church has done a horrible job explaining...
06/09/2009 08:02:25 PM
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The appropriate punishment...
07/09/2009 06:03:25 AM
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Punishment for what?
07/09/2009 09:51:57 AM
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When did I say anything about a law?
07/09/2009 10:48:09 AM
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Since were talking about the law, not your opinion of right an wrong, it's sort of a default
09/09/2009 05:01:08 PM
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Eh... I wish you were right, but I don't think you are.
10/09/2009 03:50:18 AM
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Morse isn't a bad example
10/09/2009 11:23:32 AM
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Fair enough. I'm just a little overzealous with what I see as infringements on civil liberties.
15/09/2009 01:14:48 AM
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That's the key point so many forget:
07/09/2009 11:42:12 PM
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It's not that they forget, they never 'get' to begin with
09/09/2009 07:18:09 PM
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