i don't think she's saying it's someone else's fault
moondog Send a noteboard - 30/05/2010 09:08:29 PM
It's a two-page article on how crippling college debt can be, and not ONCE does it talk about personal responsibility on the part of the student. Not ONCE does it mention that she should have expected she wasn't going to be making any more money than before college after graduating from college with a degree in "religious and women's studies". Yes, she went $100,000 (or more) in debt to get a totally worthless degree, and now she's saying it's someone else's fault.
she certainly turned a blind eye to the reality of the situation, but i don't see in the article where she's saying it's someone else's fault she's so far in debt. she does say she wishes someone would have "slapped her in the face" about how much debt she was accruing but to me, the article reads like she had a dim understanding of financial aid and chose to ignore it anyway, and now it's too late to reconsider. buyer's remorse, or whatever the education equivalent is.
but, one thing the article fails to mention although they do touch on it, is the way schools are in the business of partnering with the loan companies to push student loans over grants and scholarships. the loan company gets a lifetime interest payment and the schools get a big subsidy for playing along. so of course people go into debt for tens of thousands of dollars, because if you can't afford to go to school on your own dime, there are a host of loans you can qualify for so that you don't have to worry about how you will afford it.
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One of the stupidest New York Times articles I've ever read
30/05/2010 03:17:03 PM
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Added to which she sounds like a spoiled brat
30/05/2010 03:46:06 PM
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It's a column, not a real article... and it's more critical than you suggest.
30/05/2010 04:02:26 PM
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No it isn't.
30/05/2010 04:24:20 PM
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Re: No it isn't.
30/05/2010 04:56:42 PM
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Šertam aštakun
31/05/2010 04:14:28 AM
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Here's the saddest part ...
30/05/2010 06:10:48 PM
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Very bad life planning, and sadly, it's not an isolated case.
31/05/2010 04:01:46 AM
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Same. Humanities, while necessary, are something of a luxury given the numbers. *NM*
31/05/2010 07:35:25 AM
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i don't think she's saying it's someone else's fault
30/05/2010 09:08:29 PM
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Re: One of the stupidest New York Times articles I've ever read
30/05/2010 11:36:40 PM
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Don't get me started on the "everyone should go to college" mantra
31/05/2010 04:07:34 AM
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Re: Don't get me started on the "everyone should go to college" mantra
31/05/2010 04:23:54 AM
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I don't see the point in a humanities major if you aren't planning to get more than a bachelor's.
31/05/2010 07:41:40 AM
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I have a BA in English Literature.
31/05/2010 11:20:28 AM
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that's fair enough, since that's why you took it
31/05/2010 10:20:36 PM
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Heh.
01/06/2010 09:30:53 AM
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I think you mean "the government acts all brokenhearted about the amount of student debt." *NM*
01/06/2010 09:38:38 AM
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That's kind of a weak reason, though.
31/05/2010 11:11:49 PM
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I'm pretty sure I didn't use that as my reason...
31/05/2010 11:15:32 PM
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That's true, although I don't know how many jobs that's useful for.
01/06/2010 01:20:29 AM
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That's fine. And I didn't go to Uni to get a job. I went for the education.
01/06/2010 09:29:28 AM
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I want to make clear that I, as a humanities major, really do like the humanities.
01/06/2010 09:37:39 AM
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there is one more group that needs to take some of the blame
31/05/2010 01:58:39 AM
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Re: there is one more group that needs to take some of the blame
31/05/2010 02:39:14 AM
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Forget morale, the entire concept is immoral.
31/05/2010 02:52:08 AM
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Nonsense.
31/05/2010 03:01:32 AM
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that's not what you're talking about though.
31/05/2010 04:40:45 AM
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Korea has that policy and look what a nice place that is...er, wait a minute... *NM*
31/05/2010 06:08:14 AM
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So do many democratic countries across the world. And your point is what? *NM*
31/05/2010 06:36:14 AM
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We can put a man on the moon but looking at job number is too complicated?
31/05/2010 04:03:38 PM
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yeah, i probably would've rethought that physics degree if there were such a program in place
31/05/2010 03:27:14 AM
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Physics degrees have a variety of applications.
31/05/2010 07:02:57 PM
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Re: Physics degrees have a variety of applications.
31/05/2010 07:59:22 PM
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you are near Denver right?
02/06/2010 09:33:06 PM
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at the time i was in wisconsin, never lived in denver before
03/06/2010 02:01:23 AM
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ugh. stupid twat.
31/05/2010 02:21:27 AM
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See, you have a plan.
31/05/2010 04:08:24 AM
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yah. she's a stupid twat. and as you've pointed out, not the only one.
31/05/2010 04:42:20 AM
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What a useless leech.
31/05/2010 02:53:24 AM
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She works for a photographer.
31/05/2010 03:03:44 AM
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