Fair enough. I misunderstood your position before.
everynametaken Send a noteboard - 26/05/2010 12:31:52 AM
In your post you said this is nothing new. In actuality it is somewhat new in that this is not a propaganda piece they can use to support themselves in the eyes of the North Koreans. They just sank a fucking ship and killed 46 sailors and injured more. There is probably not much more they can do to beg for war except maybe launch cross border attacks to kill more south Koreans.
This is not business as usual as you seem to assert. This is an escalation in aggression that is different form the North's usual shenanigans.
This is not business as usual as you seem to assert. This is an escalation in aggression that is different form the North's usual shenanigans.
What I'm saying is that they crave crisis. And the bigger the crisis, the better. And you've proved my point - the North's usual shenanigans aren't working anymore, precisely the reason why they need something bigger. This is probably the biggest act they can do short of having all out war on the peninsula.
In 1994, North Korea created a nuclear crisis and we signed an agreed framework, and then of course there were accusations about whether the US was fulfilling the agreed framework on time. North Korea blamed the U.S., but basically North Korea broke the agreed framework. They conducted two nuclear tests and many missile tests. So they found out that bluffing, or creating a crisis through resolute militant operation, is maybe the way to sustain global attention, get aid, get diplomatic recognition, put to the UN that North Korea is a country to be reckoned with. Is this ultimately a successful long-term strategy? I don't think so, because the South Koreans and Americans are getting smarter, and students of North Korean affairs are getting angry. But so far, with limited options, North Korea has been pursuing this and they have been gaining rather than losing. We also shouldn't forget that their might be an unstable power struggle going on, with Kim's ill health and his desire to pass power to his second son, I wouldn't be surprised if that was a factor as well.
I'm not saying we should treat this nonchalantly, I'm saying we should look at this calmly and with clear vision, without emotion. I like how President Lee has handled this crisis, after all his country and his people has the most to lose.
But wine was the great assassin of both tradition and propriety...
-Brandon Sanderson, The Way of Kings
-Brandon Sanderson, The Way of Kings
Oh, by the way...has anyone noticed how close the Korean peninsula is to war?
24/05/2010 02:04:12 PM
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I was wondering when something would be posted about this
24/05/2010 02:49:54 PM
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But does North Korea really listen to China that much anymore?
24/05/2010 02:55:04 PM
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that might well be a good point
24/05/2010 03:20:32 PM
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The explaination I have heard...
24/05/2010 09:05:40 PM
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Kim made one of his rare trips outside of North Korea about two weeks ago.
26/05/2010 07:49:18 AM
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yah, it doesn't look to be a good situation
24/05/2010 02:50:08 PM
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If there were a war with North Korea the US has the resources to deal with it.
24/05/2010 02:56:39 PM
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mm. well I don't much like that either, to be honest.
24/05/2010 03:00:29 PM
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Still scary and you know that using those would escalate everything.
24/05/2010 03:26:12 PM
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Korea is directly in our sphere of influence
24/05/2010 03:37:18 PM
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I meant "we" in a personal sense, not a national sense.
24/05/2010 05:36:40 PM
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In a personal sense, we could hijack a nuclear silo and shoot an ICBM at Pyongyang.
24/05/2010 05:50:52 PM
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That would totally blow my cover of being a nerdy little grandma.
24/05/2010 09:37:28 PM
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A part of me says just get it over with
24/05/2010 03:21:06 PM
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I agree that if war is inevitable, it is much better to start it at a time of our choosing.
24/05/2010 03:48:36 PM
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I'm trying not to. *NM*
24/05/2010 05:25:06 PM
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I try to block it out with thought's of a puppet singing "I'm So Ronery". *NM*
24/05/2010 10:59:23 PM
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No one wants to resume the Korean War.
24/05/2010 11:27:12 PM
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China does.
25/05/2010 12:29:11 AM
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No, they don't
25/05/2010 12:54:49 AM
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Well, it would be more accurate to say they want a conflict, yes.
25/05/2010 01:15:23 AM
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No, they don't
25/05/2010 01:24:17 AM
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I'm saying the Cold War isn't over, since it was never about capitalism vs. communism to begin.
25/05/2010 01:41:28 AM
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North Korea is not acting suicidal? Are you kidding?
25/05/2010 02:41:29 AM
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The internal political dynamic in North Korea is such that they constantly need a crisis.
25/05/2010 03:03:59 AM
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You are missing the main point.
25/05/2010 03:36:37 AM
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I'm not saying it's nothing new.
25/05/2010 03:57:40 AM
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Your response highlights the ultimate problem: the crisis will have to keep getting bigger.
25/05/2010 07:44:19 PM
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Fair enough. I misunderstood your position before.
26/05/2010 12:31:52 AM
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Yes, I've been watching with morbid curiosity and a little sick feeling in my stomach.
25/05/2010 02:47:53 AM
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