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The wisest thing to do, in my mind, is to force the issue now. Tom Send a noteboard - 25/05/2010 07:49:56 PM
We need to let China know that the issue needs to be resolved now to avoid war. We should start with voluntary evacuations of old people and young children from Seoul and, if the situation does not get resolved, mandatory evacuations of all non-workers, followed by a plan of immediate evacuation of everyone else if needed. THAT would get peoples' attention in Beijing (along with the movement of a few extra carriers and putting all US troops in Japan on high alert).

We then let China know that we find three options acceptable:

(a) the regime signs a peace treaty, unilaterally dismantles its nuclear stockpile and finds some way of reforming itself

(b) China takes over direct control of North Korea and helps to reform its economy, with any Chinese troops leaving at the same time as US troops leave South Korea to permit the North to be absorbed by the South

OR

(c) we impose a complete blockade on North Korea and let the regime collapse on its own or, if need be, we destroy the regime militarily
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

*MySmiley*
This message last edited by Tom on 25/05/2010 at 07:51:09 PM
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Oh, by the way...has anyone noticed how close the Korean peninsula is to war? - 24/05/2010 02:04:12 PM 1071 Views
I was wondering when something would be posted about this - 24/05/2010 02:49:54 PM 773 Views
haha. I love that mental image - 24/05/2010 02:51:53 PM 682 Views
But does North Korea really listen to China that much anymore? - 24/05/2010 02:55:04 PM 708 Views
that might well be a good point - 24/05/2010 03:20:32 PM 679 Views
Very interesting point. That is a wild card. *NM* - 24/05/2010 03:27:53 PM 242 Views
The explaination I have heard... - 24/05/2010 09:05:40 PM 714 Views
I don't know... - 24/05/2010 09:49:25 PM 632 Views
No, because China doesn't want us in the region. - 25/05/2010 12:20:47 AM 670 Views
Um, wasn't that pretty much always understood? - 25/05/2010 12:08:12 AM 627 Views
yah, it doesn't look to be a good situation - 24/05/2010 02:50:08 PM 679 Views
If there were a war with North Korea the US has the resources to deal with it. - 24/05/2010 02:56:39 PM 699 Views
mm. well I don't much like that either, to be honest. - 24/05/2010 03:00:29 PM 694 Views
Wikipedia is your friend. - 24/05/2010 03:08:33 PM 856 Views
ah mk. Thanks!! - 24/05/2010 04:39:49 PM 642 Views
Still scary and you know that using those would escalate everything. - 24/05/2010 03:26:12 PM 651 Views
Korea is directly in our sphere of influence - 24/05/2010 03:37:18 PM 603 Views
I meant "we" in a personal sense, not a national sense. - 24/05/2010 05:36:40 PM 754 Views
In a personal sense, we could hijack a nuclear silo and shoot an ICBM at Pyongyang. - 24/05/2010 05:50:52 PM 580 Views
Oh yuck - there are far better ways. - 24/05/2010 06:01:44 PM 621 Views
yah... - 24/05/2010 06:27:37 PM 657 Views
Re: yah... - 24/05/2010 06:34:13 PM 640 Views
That would totally blow my cover of being a nerdy little grandma. - 24/05/2010 09:37:28 PM 604 Views
I don't think the US could, if China decided to get involved - 24/05/2010 08:45:23 PM 587 Views
A part of me says just get it over with - 24/05/2010 03:21:06 PM 588 Views
I agree that if war is inevitable, it is much better to start it at a time of our choosing. - 24/05/2010 03:48:36 PM 747 Views
I agree - 24/05/2010 04:17:19 PM 759 Views
Pretty much agree with all of that. *NM* - 24/05/2010 05:17:27 PM 271 Views
I'm trying not to. *NM* - 24/05/2010 05:25:06 PM 243 Views
This. *NM* - 24/05/2010 05:28:20 PM 268 Views
I understand - 24/05/2010 06:00:09 PM 597 Views
Yes - 24/05/2010 06:05:25 PM 607 Views
i agree - 24/05/2010 06:28:37 PM 628 Views
This has disaster written all over it *NM* - 24/05/2010 08:39:37 PM 256 Views
Technically, weren't we always? - 24/05/2010 08:51:29 PM 603 Views
Exactly. - 25/05/2010 12:07:32 AM 654 Views
I try to block it out with thought's of a puppet singing "I'm So Ronery". *NM* - 24/05/2010 10:59:23 PM 255 Views
No one wants to resume the Korean War. - 24/05/2010 11:27:12 PM 712 Views
China does. - 25/05/2010 12:29:11 AM 655 Views
No, they don't - 25/05/2010 12:54:49 AM 684 Views
Well, it would be more accurate to say they want a conflict, yes. - 25/05/2010 01:15:23 AM 679 Views
No, they don't - 25/05/2010 01:24:17 AM 666 Views
North Korea is not acting suicidal? Are you kidding? - 25/05/2010 02:41:29 AM 635 Views
The internal political dynamic in North Korea is such that they constantly need a crisis. - 25/05/2010 03:03:59 AM 655 Views
You are missing the main point. - 25/05/2010 03:36:37 AM 695 Views
I'm not saying it's nothing new. - 25/05/2010 03:57:40 AM 672 Views
Your response highlights the ultimate problem: the crisis will have to keep getting bigger. - 25/05/2010 07:44:19 PM 612 Views
Yes, that is the danger. - 26/05/2010 09:04:36 PM 754 Views
Fair enough. I misunderstood your position before. - 26/05/2010 12:31:52 AM 640 Views
Yes, I've been watching with morbid curiosity and a little sick feeling in my stomach. - 25/05/2010 02:47:53 AM 714 Views
The wisest thing to do, in my mind, is to force the issue now. - 25/05/2010 07:49:56 PM 692 Views

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