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Oh, it's a lot earlier. Legolas Send a noteboard - 14/05/2010 06:03:51 PM
The foreign school systems I'm familiar with separate the students by their abilities/test scores starting between elementary and junior high. The truly "elite" ones do it before pre-school by testing both the students and the mothers. It's not too difficult to predict who will and who won't have a shot at making it into a university right then and there.


The first separation happens at the transition from primary to secondary school, so halfway junior high by the American count - then one needs to choose a secondary school, obviously, and one of several tracks that may or may not exist in a given school. If you choose for a more technical or vocational-oriented track there, your odds of ending up in university grow rather small, even if it's technicallly possible to do it.
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So the list of countries using the euro will grow longer, not shorter... Estonia to join in 2011 - 12/05/2010 10:51:37 PM 1084 Views
Sounds like a winner - 12/05/2010 11:07:38 PM 702 Views
You Americans should like Estonia - they're rather neoliberal that way. - 12/05/2010 11:18:30 PM 898 Views
Apparently we do - 13/05/2010 05:34:41 PM 746 Views
I liked the remark one Estonian bankofficial made - 12/05/2010 11:38:26 PM 663 Views
Re: I liked the remark one Estonian bankofficial made - 12/05/2010 11:42:37 PM 729 Views
I stand corrected than - 12/05/2010 11:45:33 PM 617 Views
I do sometimes wish more Belgians would understand that. - 12/05/2010 11:52:41 PM 598 Views
Re: I do sometimes wish more Belgians would understand that. - 13/05/2010 12:05:03 AM 603 Views
That would be more convincing if universities promoted more social mobility. - 13/05/2010 12:11:37 AM 733 Views
Social attitudes take a very long time to change. - 13/05/2010 12:28:09 AM 750 Views
We have need-based scholarships. We could extend them. - 13/05/2010 12:38:31 AM 627 Views
I guess it depends on exactly what the fees are. - 13/05/2010 11:06:37 AM 717 Views
They're low. Too low. - 13/05/2010 12:12:29 PM 743 Views
American universities do have entrance exams. Sort of. - 13/05/2010 02:17:13 PM 738 Views
Those are really too lame to count. - 13/05/2010 02:21:23 PM 788 Views
Re: Those are really too lame to count. - 13/05/2010 05:04:25 PM 789 Views
typically the more specialized programs require that - 13/05/2010 05:53:20 PM 699 Views
Re: Those are really too lame to count. - 13/05/2010 07:32:19 PM 799 Views
Like I indicated, I'm not suggesting it in the American system. - 13/05/2010 07:53:15 PM 794 Views
meh. Most degrees are useless anyway. - 13/05/2010 01:14:54 AM 625 Views
Re: That would be more convincing if universities promoted more social mobility. - 13/05/2010 08:08:16 PM 709 Views
Buying a senator helps. - 14/05/2010 02:33:44 AM 664 Views
Re: That would be more convincing if universities promoted more social mobility. - 14/05/2010 11:48:22 AM 712 Views
Is it as late as university? Or is it a good bit earlier? EDIT: Nevermind. Answered elsewhere. - 14/05/2010 05:36:50 PM 812 Views
Oh, it's a lot earlier. - 14/05/2010 06:03:51 PM 767 Views
Come on. - 13/05/2010 10:13:29 AM 779 Views
You ever been to Estonia? If not, stop speaking. *NM* - 13/05/2010 10:29:17 AM 396 Views
your funny *NM* - 13/05/2010 02:01:06 PM 261 Views
Surely Sweden can say, or could have said, that they wouldn't join till they damn well felt like it? - 12/05/2010 11:39:57 PM 655 Views
Apparently Denmark only got the opt-out after rejecting the Maastricht treaty. - 12/05/2010 11:47:00 PM 695 Views
Good point: it seems to me no-one cares about being Belgian, only Flemish or Walloon . - 12/05/2010 11:51:27 PM 566 Views
It's slightly more subtle than that. - 13/05/2010 12:00:29 AM 733 Views
What do you think about this suggestion? - 13/05/2010 12:09:02 AM 717 Views
That has been suggested by many, yeah. - 13/05/2010 12:28:24 AM 732 Views
But before you make a decision like that... - 13/05/2010 08:36:07 AM 717 Views
We have a Flemish government, though. - 13/05/2010 12:22:57 PM 751 Views
There is one answer to most of those questions - 12/05/2010 11:49:46 PM 594 Views
I love that the rest of you have the euro. - 12/05/2010 11:53:10 PM 585 Views
*waits for the Pound to drop and the UK begging for the euro* *NM* - 12/05/2010 11:56:25 PM 339 Views
That would be the worst time to do it. - 13/05/2010 12:05:32 AM 686 Views
Well... that is true. But your exports would be really high. - 13/05/2010 12:11:50 AM 630 Views
Also the best time. - 13/05/2010 12:11:53 AM 683 Views
I WIN *NM* - 13/05/2010 12:12:51 AM 271 Views
Bah *NM* - 13/05/2010 12:18:48 AM 238 Views
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times... *NM* - 13/05/2010 12:19:32 AM 228 Views
There is a small problem with that... - 13/05/2010 10:21:44 AM 582 Views
I found the wikipedia article. - 13/05/2010 10:53:00 AM 775 Views
WOW WHEN DID THE UK CHANGE THEIR COINS - 13/05/2010 12:10:41 AM 682 Views
2008, apparently. Though I don't think we actually saw them until 2009. - 13/05/2010 12:17:46 AM 696 Views
I used to use a ten-pound note to inhale...things. - 13/05/2010 05:54:09 AM 643 Views
You have a thing for Charles Darwin? - 13/05/2010 10:45:14 AM 590 Views
From "Mean Mr. Mustard" - "keeps a ten-bob note up his nose...such a mean old man..." - 13/05/2010 02:36:34 PM 625 Views
In that case I'm going to have to disappoint you. - 13/05/2010 02:54:04 PM 751 Views
I knew that, but I had limited options. - 13/05/2010 03:15:07 PM 731 Views
You could try a €500 note. - 13/05/2010 03:18:11 PM 626 Views
In other news, the sky is blue. - 13/05/2010 03:33:25 PM 650 Views
I seem to remember reading something in 2002 about Germans paying their monthly rent in cash. - 13/05/2010 03:43:35 PM 727 Views
Hm. Possible. - 13/05/2010 03:50:31 PM 604 Views
Re: In other news, the sky is blue. - 13/05/2010 07:45:06 PM 727 Views
Sheesh...I was just using, not dealing. - 13/05/2010 03:47:05 PM 623 Views
The thrill of decadence? *NM* - 13/05/2010 03:51:21 PM 263 Views
Ooh...I'm sure THAT will shore up the eurozone... *laughs* - 13/05/2010 05:51:12 AM 677 Views
Agreed - 13/05/2010 12:20:12 PM 648 Views
Nobody said it would. - 13/05/2010 12:34:27 PM 654 Views
You know what will save the eurozone ? - 13/05/2010 04:55:06 PM 641 Views
You're a little ray of sunshine, aren't you? *NM* - 13/05/2010 05:10:48 PM 253 Views
Hey man, I don't want Europe to be the next Japan - 13/05/2010 05:42:26 PM 645 Views

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