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There is a small problem with that... jh Send a noteboard - 13/05/2010 10:21:44 AM
Why didn't they? Did they not have the balls of us and Denmark?

(Incidentally, if every country in the Eurozone had had a binding referendum before joining, I wonder how big it would be... How was public opinion in Belgium in 2000-1?)


I think it was written in when Sweden joined the EU (or whatever it was called?) and that both the UK and Denmark were members before the plans of this reached that stage... So while it would undoubtedly be a question of balls if the issue arose, I doubt they judged it important enough during the negotiations for membership. Alcohol policy was much more important back then. :P
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So the list of countries using the euro will grow longer, not shorter... Estonia to join in 2011 Legolas - 12/05/2010 10:51:37 PM 1013 Views
Sounds like a winner Isaac - 12/05/2010 11:07:38 PM 634 Views
You Americans should like Estonia - they're rather neoliberal that way. Legolas - 12/05/2010 11:18:30 PM 831 Views
Apparently we do Isaac - 13/05/2010 05:34:41 PM 679 Views
I liked the remark one Estonian bankofficial made Bramhodoulos - 12/05/2010 11:38:26 PM 590 Views
Re: I liked the remark one Estonian bankofficial made BlackAdder - 12/05/2010 11:42:37 PM 661 Views
I stand corrected than Bramhodoulos - 12/05/2010 11:45:33 PM 546 Views
I do sometimes wish more Belgians would understand that. Legolas - 12/05/2010 11:52:41 PM 529 Views
Re: I do sometimes wish more Belgians would understand that. BlackAdder - 13/05/2010 12:05:03 AM 537 Views
That would be more convincing if universities promoted more social mobility. Legolas - 13/05/2010 12:11:37 AM 659 Views
Social attitudes take a very long time to change. Tim - 13/05/2010 12:28:09 AM 682 Views
We have need-based scholarships. We could extend them. Legolas - 13/05/2010 12:38:31 AM 565 Views
I guess it depends on exactly what the fees are. Tim - 13/05/2010 11:06:37 AM 652 Views
They're low. Too low. Legolas - 13/05/2010 12:12:29 PM 675 Views
American universities do have entrance exams. Sort of. Macharius - 13/05/2010 02:17:13 PM 698 Views
Those are really too lame to count. Legolas - 13/05/2010 02:21:23 PM 713 Views
Re: Those are really too lame to count. Macharius - 13/05/2010 05:04:25 PM 724 Views
typically the more specialized programs require that LadyLorraine - 13/05/2010 05:53:20 PM 630 Views
Re: Those are really too lame to count. BlackAdder - 13/05/2010 07:32:19 PM 720 Views
Like I indicated, I'm not suggesting it in the American system. Legolas - 13/05/2010 07:53:15 PM 714 Views
meh. Most degrees are useless anyway. AgentOrange - 13/05/2010 01:14:54 AM 555 Views
That could be fixed if there weren't such stigma attached to vocational schools. Ghavrel - 13/05/2010 02:18:40 AM 581 Views
Re: That would be more convincing if universities promoted more social mobility. BlackAdder - 13/05/2010 08:08:16 PM 633 Views
Buying a senator helps. Vodalus - 14/05/2010 02:33:44 AM 596 Views
Re: That would be more convincing if universities promoted more social mobility. Legolas - 14/05/2010 11:48:22 AM 651 Views
Is it as late as university? Or is it a good bit earlier? EDIT: Nevermind. Answered elsewhere. Vodalus - 14/05/2010 05:36:50 PM 742 Views
Oh, it's a lot earlier. Legolas - 14/05/2010 06:03:51 PM 694 Views
Re: Is it as late as university? Or is it a good bit earlier? EDIT: Nevermind. Answered elsewhere. BlackAdder - 14/05/2010 07:57:32 PM 573 Views
Re: That would be more convincing if universities promoted more social mobility. BlackAdder - 14/05/2010 08:02:58 PM 699 Views
Come on. jh - 13/05/2010 10:13:29 AM 708 Views
naw most of them are getting degrees in liberal arts because they like to read book more then work *NM* random thoughts - 13/05/2010 02:01:59 PM 247 Views
You ever been to Estonia? If not, stop speaking. *NM* Lordling - 13/05/2010 10:29:17 AM 371 Views
your funny *NM* random thoughts - 13/05/2010 02:01:06 PM 236 Views
Surely Sweden can say, or could have said, that they wouldn't join till they damn well felt like it? Tim - 12/05/2010 11:39:57 PM 590 Views
Apparently Denmark only got the opt-out after rejecting the Maastricht treaty. Legolas - 12/05/2010 11:47:00 PM 623 Views
Good point: it seems to me no-one cares about being Belgian, only Flemish or Walloon . Tim - 12/05/2010 11:51:27 PM 498 Views
It's slightly more subtle than that. Legolas - 13/05/2010 12:00:29 AM 655 Views
What do you think about this suggestion? Tim - 13/05/2010 12:09:02 AM 644 Views
That has been suggested by many, yeah. Legolas - 13/05/2010 12:28:24 AM 653 Views
But before you make a decision like that... Bramhodoulos - 13/05/2010 08:36:07 AM 654 Views
They can export him to another country which needs a king. Wouldn't be the first time. Tim - 13/05/2010 10:57:59 AM 588 Views
We have a Flemish government, though. Legolas - 13/05/2010 12:22:57 PM 679 Views
Hmm, a pan-European entity getting too big and splitting into Eastern and Western administrations... Tim - 13/05/2010 11:09:51 AM 555 Views
That wasn't entirely what I meant. Legolas - 13/05/2010 12:15:14 PM 600 Views
There is one answer to most of those questions Bramhodoulos - 12/05/2010 11:49:46 PM 525 Views
I love that the rest of you have the euro. Tim - 12/05/2010 11:53:10 PM 507 Views
*waits for the Pound to drop and the UK begging for the euro* *NM* Bramhodoulos - 12/05/2010 11:56:25 PM 309 Views
That would be the worst time to do it. Tim - 13/05/2010 12:05:32 AM 617 Views
Well... that is true. But your exports would be really high. Ghavrel - 13/05/2010 12:11:50 AM 562 Views
Also the best time. snoopcester - 13/05/2010 12:11:53 AM 608 Views
I WIN *NM* Ghavrel - 13/05/2010 12:12:51 AM 243 Views
Bah *NM* snoopcester - 13/05/2010 12:18:48 AM 208 Views
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times... *NM* Tim - 13/05/2010 12:19:32 AM 201 Views
I think on the balance, that's probably better than the opposite, but yeah, neither is ideal. *NM* Legolas - 13/05/2010 12:14:23 AM 286 Views
There is a small problem with that... jh - 13/05/2010 10:21:44 AM 521 Views
I found the wikipedia article. Tim - 13/05/2010 10:53:00 AM 706 Views
WOW WHEN DID THE UK CHANGE THEIR COINS Ghavrel - 13/05/2010 12:10:41 AM 611 Views
2008, apparently. Though I don't think we actually saw them until 2009. Tim - 13/05/2010 12:17:46 AM 632 Views
Oh. Okay. I guess the black is just a reflective thing they're doing for the photo. Ghavrel - 13/05/2010 12:37:24 AM 563 Views
I used to use a ten-pound note to inhale...things. Tom - 13/05/2010 05:54:09 AM 568 Views
You have a thing for Charles Darwin? Tim - 13/05/2010 10:45:14 AM 518 Views
From "Mean Mr. Mustard" - "keeps a ten-bob note up his nose...such a mean old man..." Tom - 13/05/2010 02:36:34 PM 544 Views
In that case I'm going to have to disappoint you. Tim - 13/05/2010 02:54:04 PM 686 Views
I knew that, but I had limited options. Tom - 13/05/2010 03:15:07 PM 658 Views
You could try a €500 note. Tim - 13/05/2010 03:18:11 PM 553 Views
In other news, the sky is blue. Legolas - 13/05/2010 03:33:25 PM 585 Views
I seem to remember reading something in 2002 about Germans paying their monthly rent in cash. Tim - 13/05/2010 03:43:35 PM 651 Views
Hm. Possible. Legolas - 13/05/2010 03:50:31 PM 533 Views
Re: In other news, the sky is blue. BlackAdder - 13/05/2010 07:45:06 PM 662 Views
Sheesh...I was just using, not dealing. Tom - 13/05/2010 03:47:05 PM 546 Views
The thrill of decadence? *NM* Tim - 13/05/2010 03:51:21 PM 240 Views
Ooh...I'm sure THAT will shore up the eurozone... *laughs* Tom - 13/05/2010 05:51:12 AM 604 Views
Agreed Balwer - 13/05/2010 12:20:12 PM 581 Views
Nobody said it would. Legolas - 13/05/2010 12:34:27 PM 581 Views
You know what will save the eurozone ? AgentOrange - 13/05/2010 04:55:06 PM 570 Views
You're a little ray of sunshine, aren't you? *NM* Legolas - 13/05/2010 05:10:48 PM 225 Views
Hey man, I don't want Europe to be the next Japan AgentOrange - 13/05/2010 05:42:26 PM 576 Views
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