Active Users:1070 Time:14/11/2024 06:00:59 AM
Back to Messageboard Post New Thread Search Help Stats Rules
No Bramhodoulos Send a noteboard - 12/05/2010 12:53:42 AM
Nor should it be, since that would be a credit to the convincer, which is entirely the wrong orientation.


Believe me, as a 5-point calvinist there is nothing in me that longs for crediting the convinced, but doesn't Paul say: "For you did not receive a spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the Spirit of adoption as sons by whom we cry, "Abba! Father!" The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God..." (Rom 8:15-16)

It is in Paul all over the place: "We know... therefor [we can be sure that]..." all building up to give security, building it on the promises of God. Not being convinced is, acc to Paul, inconcistent with the facts we know to be true thanks to the revealed truth by the Holy Spirit.

*Disclaimer, I do however believe that true believers can have honest doubts about their salvation and all, but I simply claim they don't have to*
Reply to message
Danae-Log: So. What makes life worth living? Danae al'Thor - 08/05/2010 05:04:26 PM 1525 Views
The good bits Camilla - 08/05/2010 05:17:37 PM 1143 Views
Re: There are cannibals out there who believe(d) that if you ate bits of your enemy/someone, Danae al'Thor - 08/05/2010 05:24:16 PM 1017 Views
Re: There are cannibals out there who believe(d) that if you ate bits of your enemy/someone, Camilla - 08/05/2010 05:27:27 PM 959 Views
Re: It's because the muscles haven't gotten all developed and stringy yet. Danae al'Thor - 08/05/2010 05:28:44 PM 1070 Views
Re: It's because the muscles haven't gotten all developed and stringy yet. Camilla - 08/05/2010 05:30:42 PM 901 Views
Re: I think lots of us had pre-construed that anyway. Sorry. Danae al'Thor - 08/05/2010 05:35:16 PM 1021 Views
Re: I think lots of us had pre-construed that anyway. Sorry. Camilla - 08/05/2010 05:45:35 PM 960 Views
Re: It said: Danae al'Thor - 08/05/2010 06:01:59 PM 967 Views
Re: It said: Camilla - 09/05/2010 12:04:37 AM 837 Views
Excellent reply *NM* ironclad - 10/05/2010 12:34:10 PM 596 Views
Try meditation. Just breathing exercises and relaxation. Tom - 08/05/2010 05:24:34 PM 1091 Views
Re: Um, I meditate. And I manage quote fine without CDs to do it. *NM* Danae al'Thor - 08/05/2010 05:27:28 PM 614 Views
I would posit you're not doing a good job if you're considering suicide. *NM* Tom - 09/05/2010 04:39:05 AM 612 Views
Re: I'm not considering suicide! It says so in my post! I'm so annoyed with people who assume I am! Danae al'Thor - 09/05/2010 05:23:37 AM 1083 Views
Why do you need to affirmatively say you're not considering suicide, then? Tom - 09/05/2010 05:41:50 AM 1095 Views
Re: Because I wanted to make clear my problem, and ask for a little help that wasn't about fixing me Danae al'Thor - 09/05/2010 05:50:27 AM 1034 Views
Suicide is scary A Deathwatch Guard - 08/05/2010 05:28:00 PM 1122 Views
Re: It's a self-propagating cycle, feeling bad. Danae al'Thor - 08/05/2010 05:34:13 PM 1001 Views
Dunno p hart - 08/05/2010 06:01:06 PM 1125 Views
Re: That's a never-ending line. *NM* Danae al'Thor - 08/05/2010 06:09:40 PM 524 Views
I can only think of one reason Bramhodoulos - 08/05/2010 06:43:11 PM 1158 Views
Re: I feel a little ignorant. Danae al'Thor - 08/05/2010 06:45:47 PM 919 Views
Yeah, that one (typos ) Bramhodoulos - 08/05/2010 06:46:37 PM 1071 Views
Frankly, I agree, but it's not something of which people can be really be "convinced. " Joel - 12/05/2010 12:43:29 AM 1134 Views
No Bramhodoulos - 12/05/2010 12:53:42 AM 1041 Views
Oh, I totally agree. Joel - 12/05/2010 01:05:29 AM 947 Views
Ah, so you used "convinced" as a verb and not as a participle *NM* Bramhodoulos - 12/05/2010 09:30:59 AM 594 Views
Right. Joel - 12/05/2010 12:17:59 PM 1307 Views
personally LadyLorraine - 08/05/2010 06:45:45 PM 1017 Views
Re: How many horses do you have? Danae al'Thor - 08/05/2010 06:48:27 PM 912 Views
I have two LadyLorraine - 08/05/2010 06:55:39 PM 1064 Views
That's an insanely hard question Danae SilverWarder - 08/05/2010 08:53:06 PM 1116 Views
Re: Danae al'Thor - 08/05/2010 08:58:50 PM 1184 Views
Ah, I see SilverWarder - 08/05/2010 09:19:22 PM 1054 Views
Re: I think the difference between you and me in some ways is... Danae al'Thor - 08/05/2010 09:27:17 PM 900 Views
Well - I'm glad it's of some help :-) SilverWarder - 09/05/2010 09:39:20 AM 964 Views
So what makes you think death is any better? *NM* Dark Knight - 08/05/2010 09:11:46 PM 565 Views
Re: Um, since I am not contemplating suicide, it's not an issue. Danae al'Thor - 08/05/2010 09:16:39 PM 1117 Views
Answers lie within Dark Knight - 08/05/2010 09:43:01 PM 1053 Views
Re: I rather like that idea myself. Danae al'Thor - 08/05/2010 10:02:34 PM 1028 Views
No easy answer. Beqi - 08/05/2010 09:26:52 PM 848 Views
Re: Dude, my new pills have cured my insomnia, it is awesome. I'd forgotten about that. Danae al'Thor - 08/05/2010 09:28:54 PM 996 Views
I'm probably not the right person to answer this question... damookster - 08/05/2010 09:34:35 PM 1245 Views
Re: Don't take this the wrong way... Danae al'Thor - 08/05/2010 09:36:21 PM 1098 Views
I'm praying for you right now... vandevere - 10/05/2010 10:08:32 PM 988 Views
I just wanna know what's next, 'cause it tends to be baffling. (beat.) - 08/05/2010 10:18:16 PM 1120 Views
Re: Do you believe in reincarnation? You might be able to! *NM* Danae al'Thor - 09/05/2010 05:24:17 AM 480 Views
That would be way awesome. (beat.) - 09/05/2010 11:53:40 PM 1072 Views
Re: I haven't read it. Or heard of it. Let us know what it's like! *NM* Danae al'Thor - 10/05/2010 08:36:41 AM 620 Views
It's small, sweet and related to all this stuff here. *NM* (beat.) - 10/05/2010 12:09:47 PM 529 Views
Experience Larry - 08/05/2010 10:44:08 PM 1115 Views
Re: You need to grow a beard, Larry. Danae al'Thor - 09/05/2010 05:25:20 AM 1041 Views
Who's to say I haven't? Larry - 09/05/2010 11:56:56 AM 874 Views
I'm fairly certain there isn't some magic "thing." nossy - 08/05/2010 10:45:34 PM 953 Views
Re: That's interesting. Danae al'Thor - 09/05/2010 05:26:34 AM 997 Views
Re: That's interesting. nossy - 09/05/2010 09:12:38 PM 931 Views
Because I can't be world dictator if I am dead random thoughts - 08/05/2010 10:47:37 PM 944 Views
Re: I think it's a RAFOnaut thing, to want to be world dictator. Danae al'Thor - 09/05/2010 05:28:01 AM 1049 Views
Helping other people. *NM* BlackAdder - 08/05/2010 10:51:28 PM 481 Views
Re: If you don't mind my asking, Danae al'Thor - 09/05/2010 05:31:22 AM 997 Views
Re: If you don't mind my asking, BlackAdder - 09/05/2010 10:11:43 PM 1006 Views
Can't help you there. jh - 08/05/2010 11:22:01 PM 988 Views
Re: When the theses are done they can be fun! *NM* Danae al'Thor - 09/05/2010 05:31:48 AM 531 Views
Hmmm. No. jh - 09/05/2010 04:44:44 PM 1067 Views
Some days it just boils down to duty. Tashmere - 09/05/2010 12:52:06 AM 1115 Views
Re: The no expectations thing is HARD. To do on a moment-to-moment basis. Danae al'Thor - 09/05/2010 05:43:00 AM 1076 Views
I was in a slightly bleak mood when I wrote the first reply. I need to amend it. Tashmere - 13/05/2010 12:59:09 AM 1151 Views
That there will be a sixth season of Supernatural? Sophy - 09/05/2010 06:30:34 AM 1077 Views
Re: I actually haven't watched anything since xxx released ddd and told aaa he'd say ssss. Danae al'Thor - 09/05/2010 10:28:03 AM 881 Views
love, connection with others, the awe of being alive in the world temeraire - 09/05/2010 07:17:34 AM 878 Views
Re: You don't have to find stuff for me! Danae al'Thor - 09/05/2010 10:31:00 AM 972 Views
Love is all that keeps me sane. rebelaessedai - 09/05/2010 07:31:44 AM 1001 Views
Re: *NM* Danae al'Thor - 09/05/2010 10:31:18 AM 453 Views
Whatever you decide it does smaug - 09/05/2010 10:17:09 AM 996 Views
Re: I have not seen that, that is KICKASS. Danae al'Thor - 09/05/2010 10:38:34 AM 1020 Views
*flourishes hat* smaug - 09/05/2010 08:44:33 PM 1161 Views
That video is excellent, thanks! *NM* SilverWarder - 09/05/2010 05:52:11 PM 456 Views
Bad dancing is too awesome to not be shared *NM* smaug - 09/05/2010 08:46:27 PM 512 Views
Yep, it's one of those clips that makes you think mankind isn't that bad after all *NM* ironclad - 11/05/2010 09:20:38 AM 570 Views
The small things. Rebekah - 09/05/2010 10:45:46 AM 1096 Views
Re: Dammit, Rebekah, now I have a song playing in my head. Danae al'Thor - 09/05/2010 11:06:46 AM 846 Views
waitwaitwait Camilla - 09/05/2010 12:18:13 PM 867 Views
Re: Read the review when I post it! Danae al'Thor - 09/05/2010 03:19:14 PM 1071 Views
Carnal bliss, hydrocodone and brownies Vodalus - 09/05/2010 10:47:24 AM 1131 Views
Re: hydrocodone = pain meds? Paracetamol? Danae al'Thor - 09/05/2010 11:10:22 AM 954 Views
It's an opiod often combined with paracetamol. Vodalus - 09/05/2010 05:46:50 PM 1158 Views
To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you... TaskmasterJack - 10/05/2010 01:40:14 AM 961 Views
Re: Make sure your dentures are in. *NM* Danae al'Thor - 10/05/2010 08:35:49 AM 444 Views
Hmm. I'm trying to seriously consider your question. Nate - 10/05/2010 02:21:32 AM 1002 Views
Re: As a neutral third party, I hate that girl. Danae al'Thor - 10/05/2010 04:47:06 PM 1047 Views
Spring-time forests with flowers *NM* Floffe - 10/05/2010 05:59:46 AM 461 Views
Re: *NM* Danae al'Thor - 10/05/2010 08:41:19 AM 450 Views
I stick around for updates to the Danae-Log! Avendesora - 10/05/2010 12:14:43 PM 1101 Views
Re: Dude. Danae al'Thor - 10/05/2010 04:44:24 PM 910 Views
Heh. click the link. Avendesora - 10/05/2010 05:45:53 PM 1053 Views
Re: <whistles> Bayyyyybeee. Danae al'Thor - 10/05/2010 06:04:51 PM 953 Views
Perv. *NM* Avendesora - 11/05/2010 02:00:43 AM 556 Views
Re: Danae-Log: So. What makes life worth living? lyringlas - 11/05/2010 09:28:09 PM 972 Views
Love and the people who share it still seem the best answer. Joel - 12/05/2010 01:01:51 AM 974 Views
I don't think it's a question to ask, but a decision to make Helene - 14/05/2010 07:38:46 PM 1120 Views
Back to Messageboard Post New Thread Search Help Stats Rules

Reply to Message

Block Quote Paragraph Quote
Formatting
Smiley Codes