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Not much of a price, I suspect snoopcester Send a noteboard - 11/05/2010 08:49:38 PM
There is only one party with the funds to campaign right now and it isn't the Lib Dems and all the talk up to this is that the Tories would campaign against it in the referendum (for very obvious reasons). AV is a pretty poor form of reform anyway, more like fiddling with the current system than any real change... still, the right wing press (which is a lot of the UK press) are going to try and bury it all the same.
If the Lib Dems have sold out for a referendum on AV, they will lose a huge amount of votes until the current leadership are gone - they've sold out the party principles for a chance to play at being big boys in Parliament.
Of course I could be wrong and they may have got better terms on the deal than that. Early reports do say it is going to be their tax plans not the Tory ones that go through but that is a sop compared to real electoral reform.

And surely the Tories can't renege on their policy of starting to make cuts this year already, either.


Great, the Lib Dems have signed up to take a chunk of the hate on that - massive cuts aren't going to win elections over here, not once they bite in;)
*MySmiley*

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Britain has a new Prime Minister - 11/05/2010 08:12:50 PM 911 Views
Oh, right, I had totally forgotten that... - 11/05/2010 08:14:31 PM 650 Views
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But at the price of PR, no doubt. - 11/05/2010 08:32:02 PM 638 Views
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Indeed. - 11/05/2010 09:20:27 PM 724 Views
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The new cabinet is starting to come together. - 11/05/2010 09:46:03 PM 631 Views
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It is a pat on the head. - 11/05/2010 10:19:14 PM 516 Views
The Tory half is depressing already - 11/05/2010 10:13:58 PM 583 Views
Defence is now updated to Fox according to Sky - 11/05/2010 10:54:58 PM 528 Views
Yeah, just saw that coming through. - 11/05/2010 11:00:25 PM 678 Views
That one is a surprise to me, I expected Clegg to get it in some form - 11/05/2010 11:06:36 PM 583 Views
They're back to talking about Gove as Home Secretary. - 12/05/2010 12:01:44 AM 592 Views
Heh, he has at least been barely caught up in the expenses scandal - 12/05/2010 12:20:46 AM 594 Views
*Raises hand* - 11/05/2010 10:00:22 PM 603 Views
Tories = Conservatives - 11/05/2010 10:06:35 PM 612 Views
Re: Tories = Conservatives - 11/05/2010 10:17:33 PM 626 Views
Ick. - 11/05/2010 10:15:13 PM 520 Views
When will you realise that I am always right? - 12/05/2010 02:12:04 AM 615 Views
Re: When will you realise that I am always right? - 12/05/2010 09:14:07 AM 495 Views
How utterly delightful. - 11/05/2010 10:17:15 PM 598 Views
it does make for fine entertainment *NM* - 12/05/2010 04:39:50 AM 373 Views
Indeed it does *NM* - 12/05/2010 01:34:45 PM 260 Views
Re: How utterly delightful. - 13/05/2010 12:03:08 PM 473 Views
If you want to smile some more, - 13/05/2010 07:10:46 PM 527 Views
hes cute. *NM* - 12/05/2010 12:11:58 AM 448 Views
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No mention of it so far. - 12/05/2010 12:42:10 AM 829 Views
Indeed - 12/05/2010 01:02:01 AM 601 Views
What would you have them do? - 12/05/2010 09:32:57 AM 712 Views
What about Northern Ireland? For the love of God, what about Northern Ireland?!?!?! *NM* - 12/05/2010 05:00:37 AM 264 Views
What about it? Their parties won't be in the government. - 12/05/2010 10:27:50 AM 492 Views
Well some very interesting things happened - 12/05/2010 11:45:36 AM 618 Views
That they did, but it's still largely symbolic. - 12/05/2010 01:03:31 PM 679 Views
Oh it's important to him - 12/05/2010 03:00:54 PM 573 Views
I think what he means is that saying "Britain" instead of "the UK" technically excludes NI. *NM* - 12/05/2010 01:06:56 PM 245 Views
Oh, right. Good point, then. *NM* - 12/05/2010 01:17:51 PM 245 Views
Exactly. *NM* - 12/05/2010 08:07:06 PM 233 Views
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Re: Nick Clegg is the first ever Deputy PM without an actual ministerial role. Yet - 12/05/2010 01:41:12 PM 554 Views
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It would make a snappy title - 12/05/2010 02:04:55 PM 474 Views
Well, he's now Lord President of the Council. - 12/05/2010 08:05:33 PM 661 Views

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