From The Financial Times -
{quote}Discord stirs among Tory grass roots
By Jean Eaglesham, Chief Political Correspondent
David Cameron was urged to pay more attention to the “angry” grass roots of his party as recriminations flew in Tory ranks on Friday over what is seen as the failure of the leadership’s campaign.
Senior Conservatives were wheeled out to try to quash internal dissent over the prospect of an alliance with the Liberal Democrats.
Sir John Major, the former leader, said individual Tories “may not like” the leader’s overtures to the third party, but “that is absolutely subordinate to what is in the national interest”.
David Davis, a figurehead for the right and potential candidate to regain his old Home Office role, backed Mr Cameron’s “entirely right” initiative in a statement sent out by the party.
The public display of support reflected nervousness among the Tory high command about a possible rank-and-file backlash against the decision to seek common cause with the Lib Dems.
Any deal on proportional representation would be anathema to the Tory party, who would see it as a short-cut to political oblivion for the right. There are plenty of other Lib Dem policies that Tory MPs would reject outright, not least backing the euro, offering an amnesty to illegal immigrants and opposing a like-for-like replacement of Trident.
Mr Cameron sought to head off such concerns by setting out on Friday his red lines for any agreement. No government should give more powers to the European Union, be “weak or soft on the issue of immigration” or fail to keep the country’s defences strong, he said.
He also held back from making concrete promises to the Lib Dems on electoral reform, simply offering a cross-party committee – a mechanism past experience suggests is a recipe for kicking changes into the long grass.
But these assurances failed to quell dissent. “In entering coalition talks, Cameron tests his authority within the party. Inquiry into electoral reform? The Spectator cannot support this,” said Fraser Nelson, editor of the right-of-centre magazine. A month-long campaign that appeared to have reduced Tory support had left the party “looking very weak now”, he said.
The failure to gain a clear majority was seen as a vindication by traditionalists of their long-standing concerns over Mr Cameron’s modernising agenda of prioritising issues like the NHS over old-style Tory tax cut and immigration pledges.
Lord Tebbit, the Thatcherite former cabinet minister, said the failure to establish an election-winning lead was “the fault of the Conservatives themselves. I hope that if Mr Cameron becomes prime minister he will learn that lesson.”
“I told you so,” said one MP. “The party is angry. . . It’s all blame, blame, blame. The know-it-alls [Cameroons] haven’t delivered.”
Mr Cameron was under pressure on Friday night to reach beyond his inner circle of advisers and allies to consult with his party, particularly before signing any deal with the Lib Dems.
“It’s important he adopts a more collegiate style,” Tim Montgomerie, editor of the Conservativehome website for activists, said. “The grassroots wanted a very different campaign from the Tory leadership and the Tory leadership told us all they knew what they were doing.”
Mr Cameron sought on Friday to highlight the successes the Tories had achieved, pointing out that the gain of 97 seats – after 649 of 650 seats had declared – was the party’s best election result for 80 years, while its 36 per cent share of the vote was more than Labour achieved in winning the 2005 election.
But such context risked being lost on a party that expected to be wielding power, not locked in potentially messy negotiations with an old political rival.
Boris Johnson gave a characteristically succinct guide to the form of government the party expects to emerge from negotiations with the Lib Dems. “Whatever type of Walls sausage is contrived by this experiment, the dominant ingredient has got to be Conservativism,” the Tory mayor of London said. “The meat in the sausage has got to be Conservative.”{/quote}
Torygraph has got a piece up on the website blaming Cameron (and supporters, of course) as well.
Interesting times... on the one hand, it must make striking a deal with the Lib Dems harder if he's not to suffer internal revolt while also making some sort of deal that gets him into No 10 more vital if he is to survive his moment of victory.
{quote}Discord stirs among Tory grass roots
By Jean Eaglesham, Chief Political Correspondent
David Cameron was urged to pay more attention to the “angry” grass roots of his party as recriminations flew in Tory ranks on Friday over what is seen as the failure of the leadership’s campaign.
Senior Conservatives were wheeled out to try to quash internal dissent over the prospect of an alliance with the Liberal Democrats.
Sir John Major, the former leader, said individual Tories “may not like” the leader’s overtures to the third party, but “that is absolutely subordinate to what is in the national interest”.
David Davis, a figurehead for the right and potential candidate to regain his old Home Office role, backed Mr Cameron’s “entirely right” initiative in a statement sent out by the party.
The public display of support reflected nervousness among the Tory high command about a possible rank-and-file backlash against the decision to seek common cause with the Lib Dems.
Any deal on proportional representation would be anathema to the Tory party, who would see it as a short-cut to political oblivion for the right. There are plenty of other Lib Dem policies that Tory MPs would reject outright, not least backing the euro, offering an amnesty to illegal immigrants and opposing a like-for-like replacement of Trident.
Mr Cameron sought to head off such concerns by setting out on Friday his red lines for any agreement. No government should give more powers to the European Union, be “weak or soft on the issue of immigration” or fail to keep the country’s defences strong, he said.
He also held back from making concrete promises to the Lib Dems on electoral reform, simply offering a cross-party committee – a mechanism past experience suggests is a recipe for kicking changes into the long grass.
But these assurances failed to quell dissent. “In entering coalition talks, Cameron tests his authority within the party. Inquiry into electoral reform? The Spectator cannot support this,” said Fraser Nelson, editor of the right-of-centre magazine. A month-long campaign that appeared to have reduced Tory support had left the party “looking very weak now”, he said.
The failure to gain a clear majority was seen as a vindication by traditionalists of their long-standing concerns over Mr Cameron’s modernising agenda of prioritising issues like the NHS over old-style Tory tax cut and immigration pledges.
Lord Tebbit, the Thatcherite former cabinet minister, said the failure to establish an election-winning lead was “the fault of the Conservatives themselves. I hope that if Mr Cameron becomes prime minister he will learn that lesson.”
“I told you so,” said one MP. “The party is angry. . . It’s all blame, blame, blame. The know-it-alls [Cameroons] haven’t delivered.”
Mr Cameron was under pressure on Friday night to reach beyond his inner circle of advisers and allies to consult with his party, particularly before signing any deal with the Lib Dems.
“It’s important he adopts a more collegiate style,” Tim Montgomerie, editor of the Conservativehome website for activists, said. “The grassroots wanted a very different campaign from the Tory leadership and the Tory leadership told us all they knew what they were doing.”
Mr Cameron sought on Friday to highlight the successes the Tories had achieved, pointing out that the gain of 97 seats – after 649 of 650 seats had declared – was the party’s best election result for 80 years, while its 36 per cent share of the vote was more than Labour achieved in winning the 2005 election.
But such context risked being lost on a party that expected to be wielding power, not locked in potentially messy negotiations with an old political rival.
Boris Johnson gave a characteristically succinct guide to the form of government the party expects to emerge from negotiations with the Lib Dems. “Whatever type of Walls sausage is contrived by this experiment, the dominant ingredient has got to be Conservativism,” the Tory mayor of London said. “The meat in the sausage has got to be Conservative.”{/quote}
Torygraph has got a piece up on the website blaming Cameron (and supporters, of course) as well.
Interesting times... on the one hand, it must make striking a deal with the Lib Dems harder if he's not to suffer internal revolt while also making some sort of deal that gets him into No 10 more vital if he is to survive his moment of victory.
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Lib Dems: Up 1% of the vote, down 10% of the seats.
07/05/2010 09:29:03 AM
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So what would you move to?
07/05/2010 09:53:51 AM
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I imagine if the UK changes it will move to Proportional Representation
07/05/2010 10:04:38 AM
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God I hate the British system
07/05/2010 10:24:35 AM
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It's an excellent morning. Conservatives are at 301 right now. *NM*
07/05/2010 01:57:52 PM
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Indeed
07/05/2010 02:22:37 PM
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I love how they're calling that option "The Coalition of the Losers".
07/05/2010 02:27:56 PM
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They are? Where?
07/05/2010 02:38:01 PM
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On the lovely BBC. Paxman, Robinson, Dimbleby et al.
07/05/2010 02:52:01 PM
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Ah, we have it on but with the sound turned down - the subtitlers must be skipping that phrase
07/05/2010 03:13:57 PM
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The thing with PR is, the current vote results are a horrid predictor for PR vote results.
07/05/2010 03:45:58 PM
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Re: The thing with PR is, the current vote results are a horrid predictor for PR vote results.
07/05/2010 03:52:19 PM
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I'm sure it would be a setup for new elections in a few months if they did. *NM*
07/05/2010 02:40:49 PM
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I suspect we'll get one of those anyway.
07/05/2010 02:52:32 PM
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What is the general consensus on who would win or lose from new elections?
07/05/2010 02:57:04 PM
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I've not heard any comment on this yet. I might have missed some.
07/05/2010 02:58:00 PM
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Not being talked about yet - I'd guess whoever is PM will lose though
07/05/2010 03:21:23 PM
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Re: Not being talked about yet - I'd guess whoever is PM will lose though
07/05/2010 03:29:37 PM
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Re: Not being talked about yet - I'd guess whoever is PM will lose though
07/05/2010 04:04:03 PM
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I suspect a great deal of the problem is George Osborn
07/05/2010 04:09:51 PM
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Re: I suspect a great deal of the problem is George Osborn
07/05/2010 04:24:56 PM
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I'm sure he is
07/05/2010 04:25:20 PM
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Heh.
07/05/2010 04:27:44 PM
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Re: Heh.
07/05/2010 04:43:18 PM
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His talking about "Portillo moments" was one of the best parts of the BBC's election broadcast. *NM*
07/05/2010 08:14:11 PM
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If they got PR as part of the deal it would be worth it
07/05/2010 02:42:36 PM
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Possibly.
07/05/2010 02:53:28 PM
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Re: Possibly.
07/05/2010 03:00:55 PM
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Sylvia Hermon the independent unionist would probably support them as well
07/05/2010 02:44:35 PM
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Re: Indeed
07/05/2010 03:45:00 PM
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Re: Indeed
07/05/2010 03:59:41 PM
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Well I'm fairly sure some Shinners have attended Tory conferences in the past
07/05/2010 04:05:56 PM
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The breakdown is pretty wack
07/05/2010 11:07:20 AM
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Tell me about it.
07/05/2010 11:14:44 AM
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I'm in the Cities of London and Westminster constituency.
07/05/2010 11:56:04 AM
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A simple change is all
07/05/2010 01:16:16 PM
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Not that simple
07/05/2010 02:45:00 PM
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Because my school was a polling station we used to get the day off every polling day
07/05/2010 02:51:18 PM
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Re: Not that simple
07/05/2010 03:04:57 PM
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PR is hardly too difficult to implement and is much more democratic
07/05/2010 02:48:01 PM
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What's amazing is that the exit polls are actually looking astonishingly correct, now. Huh. *NM*
07/05/2010 03:35:12 PM
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As soon as i turned on the TV, i was being told the Exit polls must be wrong
07/05/2010 03:47:15 PM
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Oh, and the other interesting thing will be seeing whether the Conservatives offer....
07/05/2010 03:57:52 PM
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Until you bring Lady Thatcher back, all of your elections are just pick-the-least-offensive anyway. *NM*
07/05/2010 04:08:32 PM
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Well her son is good at starting coups, so maybe he might be hired for her return. *NM*
07/05/2010 04:28:52 PM
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Whatever it takes. *NM*
07/05/2010 04:31:13 PM
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Please no, the milk stealer is still used to frighten children in Scotland
07/05/2010 04:47:26 PM
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OK here is the map of England by constituency, blue Tory, red NUlab
07/05/2010 05:00:20 PM
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So I'm just one of those upstart colonists....explain to me what is going on....
07/05/2010 05:26:59 PM
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Basically...
07/05/2010 06:43:10 PM
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And things are changing already
08/05/2010 04:08:47 PM
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I thought they weren't allowed to do that if Brown isn't Prime Minister?
08/05/2010 04:52:39 PM
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If i were the tories
07/05/2010 11:28:43 PM
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That is hilarious. Both Brown and Dimbleby have been around for a while, huh?
07/05/2010 11:59:58 PM
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Re: That is hilarious. Both Brown and Dimbleby have been around for a while, huh?
08/05/2010 06:11:38 PM
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Sounds like the pressure is on for Cameron
08/05/2010 02:01:49 PM
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Hmmm
13/05/2010 12:08:04 PM
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How was he supposed to know that at the time he made the post?
13/05/2010 09:52:24 PM
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Re: How was he supposed to know that at the time he made the post?
13/05/2010 10:59:35 PM
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