70% of the people in Arizona support the new law and 30% of the state is Hispanic
random thoughts Send a noteboard - 28/04/2010 10:51:08 PM
So either almost every single white person in the state supports that law or there are a fair number of Hispanics who support it as well. I think the most twisted bit of logic here is that illegal immigration has grown the Hispanic population to such a s size that it is no longer in our best interest to slow it down because they have become such a large voting block. I do wonder if democrats would feel the same way if Hispanics were voting 60% republican instead of the other way around. More poor uneducated people means more support for the democratic party.
I don't put much faith in studies done by liberal groups who are out to support and argument. Real science doesn’t have a political agenda and the group you sited does.
If all of the illegal immigrants were to leave Arizona at once it would upset the system and cause problems but that isn't going to happen. They could see a significant decrease and they would not suffer from it. Keep in mind one of the biggest problems and the one this law is aimed at is not the people who have been there for years and are contributing to the economy but the transits who are just passing through headed further north and the people involved in smuggling.
If Arizona can drive the new immigrants to New Mexico and California they can loose a lot of the problems that come with them and that should more then make up for the extra arrest.
Sorry but I call BS that this is going have a negative impact on Arizona tourism. If voting against MLK day didn’t hurt I don’t how this will. There may be people expressing concern but those people are concerned for living. I would want to see a real impact on tourism before I believed this has any real impact
You do need a certain number of low paid labors to keep an economy going but we can check that one off because the mob who run up to truck every time I pull into Loews leads me to believe there isn’t a shortage. As for property values that make me chuckle, can you point to an area where property values rose as the result of large numbers of Hispanics moving into the area?
I don't put much faith in studies done by liberal groups who are out to support and argument. Real science doesn’t have a political agenda and the group you sited does.
If all of the illegal immigrants were to leave Arizona at once it would upset the system and cause problems but that isn't going to happen. They could see a significant decrease and they would not suffer from it. Keep in mind one of the biggest problems and the one this law is aimed at is not the people who have been there for years and are contributing to the economy but the transits who are just passing through headed further north and the people involved in smuggling.
If Arizona can drive the new immigrants to New Mexico and California they can loose a lot of the problems that come with them and that should more then make up for the extra arrest.
Sorry but I call BS that this is going have a negative impact on Arizona tourism. If voting against MLK day didn’t hurt I don’t how this will. There may be people expressing concern but those people are concerned for living. I would want to see a real impact on tourism before I believed this has any real impact
You do need a certain number of low paid labors to keep an economy going but we can check that one off because the mob who run up to truck every time I pull into Loews leads me to believe there isn’t a shortage. As for property values that make me chuckle, can you point to an area where property values rose as the result of large numbers of Hispanics moving into the area?
The Arizona immigration bill thingy
- 26/04/2010 12:57:20 AM
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what do you expect from one of the last states to accept MLK day?
- 26/04/2010 01:19:03 AM
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Yes, well, at least you are in the 27% of Americans that have a Passport.
- 26/04/2010 01:48:44 AM
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It will only take a few times getting their asses sued off for detaining U.S. citizens against...
- 26/04/2010 05:54:49 AM
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Yeah, I can't wait 'til a Latino state representative is arrested for looking illegal.
- 26/04/2010 07:26:13 AM
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or even better, a celebrity. I choose Antonia Banderas (when he has the funky beard hobo look) *NM*
- 26/04/2010 12:32:18 PM
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Looks like no one knows how bad it is along the border
- 26/04/2010 06:19:24 AM
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Oh please! The immigration and drug problems don't justify bad legislation.
- 26/04/2010 07:02:54 AM
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Some thoughts
- 26/04/2010 06:42:02 AM
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It's not just outrageous; it's plain stupid. The latter is almost as offensive as the former.
- 26/04/2010 07:30:30 AM
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Sounds more like a bill to convince people they are doing something than to do something
- 26/04/2010 12:43:19 PM
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What I find interesting about all this...
- 26/04/2010 01:06:08 PM
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It is interesting to see how it contrasts with your take on it, being from a country with them
- 26/04/2010 02:11:18 PM
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Perhaps I'm wrong, but...
- 26/04/2010 01:49:13 PM
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I don't know about the green cards
- 26/04/2010 03:05:49 PM
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That last point doesn't really make any sense.
- 26/04/2010 03:20:19 PM
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my point was that the punishments for the similar crimes are so different.
- 26/04/2010 04:23:08 PM
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The law will be overturned but it may help to get the federal government off their collective ass
- 26/04/2010 02:59:11 PM
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The law will most likely not be overturned.
- 26/04/2010 03:13:24 PM
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The law will be overturned but it may help to get the federal government off their collective ass *NM*
- 26/04/2010 03:20:45 PM
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The law will be overturned but it may help to get the federal government off their collective ass *NM*
- 26/04/2010 06:53:32 PM
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The law will be overturned but it may help to get the federal government off their collective ass *NM*
- 26/04/2010 08:33:04 PM
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The federal government will be collective ass but it may help to get the law off their overturned *NM*
- 27/04/2010 05:33:42 AM
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Their collective ass will be overturned but it may help to get the law off the federal government *NM*
- 27/04/2010 09:18:02 AM
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It's interesting how this sort of mirrors the Belgian issues.
- 26/04/2010 03:34:59 PM
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the "overrunning" of culture and language is exaggerated, imo
- 26/04/2010 04:34:56 PM
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I think the primary problem - in both cases - is language, yes.
- 26/04/2010 04:54:55 PM
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*shrug* I don't know. I just think that people are way too uptight about the issue
- 26/04/2010 05:02:30 PM
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the differences really are not that minor
- 28/04/2010 06:49:33 PM
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hmm, see
- 28/04/2010 07:10:42 PM
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I am from San Antonio I have always been able to buy burritos from my neighbors
- 28/04/2010 08:28:45 PM
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When I say relatively minor, it's because I'm thinking of those *other* assimilation problems here
- 28/04/2010 10:30:04 PM
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It should rattle anyone who lives in a democracy and who likes their way of life
- 28/04/2010 11:15:18 PM
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More power to the government! and We took that land fair and square! *NM*
- 26/04/2010 04:43:15 PM
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I'm going to take a common sense approach on this for a minute
- 26/04/2010 09:05:21 PM
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Re: I'm going to take a common sense approach on this for a minute
- 26/04/2010 11:48:14 PM
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Will the will of the people of Arizona be respected?
- 27/04/2010 12:12:46 AM
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That's funny...
- 27/04/2010 01:57:14 AM
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echo chamber much?
- 27/04/2010 04:14:53 PM
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there's also 53% of us who think this will lead to violating civil rights.
- 27/04/2010 05:19:29 PM
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Re: there's also 53% of us who think this will lead to violating civil rights.
- 28/04/2010 12:40:42 PM
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Also, the potential economic consequences of the law could be severe for Arizona.
- 27/04/2010 01:03:54 AM
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activist group liberal group claims it will cost money, what a shocker *NM*
- 27/04/2010 04:23:11 PM
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It will cost money
- 27/04/2010 09:16:31 PM
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but all of that ignores the long term savings
- 28/04/2010 03:24:50 PM
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it's less a matter of american tourism
- 28/04/2010 04:06:50 PM
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if they law is enforced it will decrease the number of illegals who go to Arizona
- 28/04/2010 06:35:26 PM
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I don't see any real long term savings coming from this.
- 28/04/2010 10:17:26 PM
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70% of the people in Arizona support the new law and 30% of the state is Hispanic
- 28/04/2010 10:51:08 PM
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real science?
- 28/04/2010 11:06:13 PM
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I linked to it further up the thread and you responded
- 28/04/2010 11:19:51 PM
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*NM*