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my point was that the punishments for the similar crimes are so different. LadyLorraine Send a noteboard - 26/04/2010 04:23:08 PM
that if you don't happen to have your green card on you, you can be tossed in the officer's car and dragged off without being given the opportunity to produce it.

but if you don't happen to have your Driver's ID on you, you'll likely be let off the hook as long as you're in the system (in other words, if the officer can look up your name in his computer). At worst, you'll be written a ticket for a fine and will have only 24 hrs to produce your ID for the court. But I've never once heard of anyone being hauled off for not having their driver's ID.

It'll be hard to produce your green card from inside the local jail, if possible, but the fact is that the person should have a certain amount of time to produce it before being arrested. While there will probably be some officers and courts who do this, a large portion of Arizona cops are rather racist against the Latino population and it probably won't happen that way.
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The Arizona immigration bill thingy - 26/04/2010 12:57:20 AM 2032 Views
Such a wrongheaded law. - 26/04/2010 02:25:10 AM 860 Views
A lot of stuff makes me go "whuh?" legally. - 26/04/2010 03:38:12 AM 748 Views
Sounds like apartheid in SA... - 26/04/2010 02:36:52 AM 906 Views
As bad as the law is, that's an ignorant statement. *NM* - 26/04/2010 02:38:16 AM 431 Views
Re: Sounds like apartheid in SA... - 26/04/2010 05:13:17 AM 1011 Views
It shows that Arizona is already lost - 26/04/2010 03:09:24 AM 900 Views
Looks like no one knows how bad it is along the border - 26/04/2010 06:19:24 AM 867 Views
Oh please! The immigration and drug problems don't justify bad legislation. - 26/04/2010 07:02:54 AM 878 Views
I do. - 26/04/2010 07:11:10 AM 1036 Views
Re: I do. - 26/04/2010 07:45:21 AM 859 Views
Yeah, I saw an interview with a former U.S. Drug Czar - 26/04/2010 06:35:10 PM 829 Views
Okay, I grew up in Arizona. - 26/04/2010 12:41:21 PM 1053 Views
Re: Looks like no one knows how bad it is along the border - 26/04/2010 03:58:37 PM 928 Views
looks like somebody doesn't quite get the point - 29/04/2010 06:18:58 AM 1511 Views
Some thoughts - 26/04/2010 06:42:02 AM 962 Views
I wouldn't worry to much laws like that - 26/04/2010 03:03:16 PM 844 Views
patriot act gives that to any federal law enforcement officer - 29/04/2010 06:13:38 AM 942 Views
Re: Some thoughts - 26/04/2010 04:04:55 PM 839 Views
Sounds more like a bill to convince people they are doing something than to do something - 26/04/2010 12:43:19 PM 840 Views
What I find interesting about all this... - 26/04/2010 01:06:08 PM 936 Views
well you see, that IS part of the problem - 26/04/2010 01:13:19 PM 934 Views
Re: What I find interesting about all this... - 26/04/2010 03:52:09 PM 874 Views
Perhaps I'm wrong, but... - 26/04/2010 01:49:13 PM 831 Views
I don't know about the green cards - 26/04/2010 03:05:49 PM 871 Views
That last point doesn't really make any sense. - 26/04/2010 03:20:19 PM 858 Views
my point was that the punishments for the similar crimes are so different. - 26/04/2010 04:23:08 PM 807 Views
Hey, I think it's an appalling law. - 27/04/2010 02:24:30 PM 937 Views
Re: Perhaps I'm wrong, but... - 26/04/2010 03:41:47 PM 782 Views
The law will be overturned but it may help to get the federal government off their collective ass - 26/04/2010 02:59:11 PM 904 Views
The law will most likely not be overturned. - 26/04/2010 03:13:24 PM 842 Views
I meant by the courts - 27/04/2010 03:49:11 PM 737 Views
ah well. that'd be nice, then. *NM* - 27/04/2010 05:14:31 PM 405 Views
It's interesting how this sort of mirrors the Belgian issues. - 26/04/2010 03:34:59 PM 849 Views
the "overrunning" of culture and language is exaggerated, imo - 26/04/2010 04:34:56 PM 865 Views
I think the primary problem - in both cases - is language, yes. - 26/04/2010 04:54:55 PM 885 Views
*shrug* I don't know. I just think that people are way too uptight about the issue - 26/04/2010 05:02:30 PM 818 Views
I agree with you - 26/04/2010 05:26:47 PM 833 Views
that is also true - 26/04/2010 05:44:40 PM 782 Views
There is a difference between assimilating and being assimilated - 27/04/2010 04:09:19 PM 854 Views
the differences really are not that minor - 28/04/2010 06:49:33 PM 867 Views
hmm, see - 28/04/2010 07:10:42 PM 763 Views
I am from San Antonio I have always been able to buy burritos from my neighbors - 28/04/2010 08:28:45 PM 787 Views
mmmm Tamale. - 28/04/2010 08:53:13 PM 797 Views
a minor point.... - 29/04/2010 06:30:22 AM 884 Views
I'm going to take a common sense approach on this for a minute - 26/04/2010 09:05:21 PM 1076 Views
Re: I'm going to take a common sense approach on this for a minute - 26/04/2010 11:48:14 PM 1172 Views
you are correct - 29/04/2010 06:39:29 AM 1213 Views
Uhm, how is that "worst" case scenario? - 27/04/2010 01:28:28 PM 827 Views
Worst reasonable case scenario - 28/04/2010 06:48:29 PM 763 Views
Will the will of the people of Arizona be respected? - 27/04/2010 12:12:46 AM 931 Views
That's funny... - 27/04/2010 01:57:14 AM 1140 Views
echo chamber much? - 27/04/2010 04:14:53 PM 893 Views
there's also 53% of us who think this will lead to violating civil rights. - 27/04/2010 05:19:29 PM 775 Views
Re: there's also 53% of us who think this will lead to violating civil rights. - 28/04/2010 12:40:42 PM 835 Views
Those incidents are horrible - 28/04/2010 01:07:39 PM 807 Views
Re: That's funny... - 28/04/2010 12:30:41 PM 845 Views
And this law will not give them what they want - 28/04/2010 01:12:50 PM 854 Views
Also, the potential economic consequences of the law could be severe for Arizona. - 27/04/2010 01:03:54 AM 868 Views
now that's just crazy talk. - 27/04/2010 01:58:42 AM 797 Views
activist group liberal group claims it will cost money, what a shocker *NM* - 27/04/2010 04:23:11 PM 374 Views
It will cost money - 27/04/2010 09:16:31 PM 846 Views
but all of that ignores the long term savings - 28/04/2010 03:24:50 PM 778 Views
it's less a matter of american tourism - 28/04/2010 04:06:50 PM 827 Views
if they law is enforced it will decrease the number of illegals who go to Arizona - 28/04/2010 06:35:26 PM 894 Views
I will admit - 28/04/2010 07:01:55 PM 802 Views
there have always been bad cops and there always will be - 28/04/2010 08:53:50 PM 771 Views
I don't see any real long term savings coming from this. - 28/04/2010 10:17:26 PM 885 Views
70% of the people in Arizona support the new law and 30% of the state is Hispanic - 28/04/2010 10:51:08 PM 1043 Views
real science? - 28/04/2010 11:06:13 PM 820 Views
I linked to it further up the thread and you responded - 28/04/2010 11:19:51 PM 801 Views
ah, I think I missed it for some reason - 29/04/2010 12:18:13 AM 878 Views
who has time to read all of this crap *NM* - 29/04/2010 04:26:11 AM 353 Views
I'm familiar with the Rasmussen poll - 28/04/2010 11:31:30 PM 1123 Views
Here's Judge Napolitano's response to this - 27/04/2010 02:19:49 PM 816 Views

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