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Le sigh. The Shrike Send a noteboard - 21/04/2010 04:16:17 PM

After all, the protesters were wearing women's clothing, which is a violation of the domesticity and submissiveness for which that clothing stands.

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I'm in favor of repealing DADT, but this made me briefly reconsider beckstcw - 21/04/2010 05:29:45 AM 1268 Views
...did you read the article? They aren't in the military any more. *NM* Ghavrel - 21/04/2010 05:31:02 AM 371 Views
Really? A few months ago Lt. Choi was still in the military, I didn't realize he'd been discharged beckstcw - 21/04/2010 05:37:47 AM 770 Views
No, in or out it's a no-go Isaac - 21/04/2010 05:48:25 AM 768 Views
There needs to be a rule that stops soldiers from wearing uniforms in bars beetnemesis - 21/04/2010 06:55:37 AM 706 Views
But if you aren't wearing your uniform at the bar... beckstcw - 21/04/2010 06:58:33 AM 705 Views
You wear a big sign that says I'M AWESOME: ASK ME HOW *NM* beetnemesis - 21/04/2010 07:01:45 AM 328 Views
Grabbing a beer with the guys after work is a pretty normal thing Isaac - 21/04/2010 07:45:16 AM 736 Views
I've seen it. LadyLorraine - 21/04/2010 12:52:59 PM 709 Views
Not a very fair way to look at it Isaac - 21/04/2010 02:10:47 PM 749 Views
perhaps not on its own LadyLorraine - 21/04/2010 07:06:09 PM 675 Views
Sadly that's not that uncommon SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 07:27:45 PM 780 Views
to be honest, I've probably met plenty of wonderful military people in the bars LadyLorraine - 21/04/2010 07:41:30 PM 738 Views
Could be. SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 04:45:29 PM 708 Views
every think the problem might be the uptight college kids? *NM* random thoughts - 22/04/2010 05:10:08 PM 315 Views
Excepting possibly finals period, I'm pretty sure "uptight college kid" is an oxymoron. *NM* Ghavrel - 22/04/2010 07:07:58 PM 323 Views
uptight college kids don't go drink in Aggieville. LadyLorraine - 22/04/2010 07:17:17 PM 938 Views
maybe I should have said stuck up college kids random thoughts - 22/04/2010 08:29:18 PM 854 Views
Uhm, no, college towns can be quite different. LadyLorraine - 22/04/2010 10:13:41 PM 669 Views
The navy and Marine do have rules against it at least for working uniforms random thoughts - 21/04/2010 04:06:10 PM 745 Views
Like Buzz Aldrin wearing his on Dancing with the Stars. Ugh. *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 21/04/2010 02:37:59 PM 341 Views
I'll bet he got permission to do that though. SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 03:26:43 PM 731 Views
well that was an air force uniform so it really doesn't count as military random thoughts - 21/04/2010 04:00:27 PM 901 Views
I'll remind you of that next time you want air support ;-) SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 06:00:32 PM 765 Views
I am a Marine we have our own air support random thoughts - 21/04/2010 06:15:01 PM 681 Views
Yeah - some of it pretty good too but still all small stuff SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 07:26:12 PM 720 Views
The F/A18 does OK random thoughts - 21/04/2010 10:11:13 PM 652 Views
It's all right, but not the best choice SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 04:30:07 PM 719 Views
jack of all trades pretty much defines the Marines random thoughts - 22/04/2010 05:13:21 PM 1079 Views
Oh not entirely SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 09:54:21 PM 1002 Views
I second that UGH *NM* Aisha - 21/04/2010 10:30:35 PM 321 Views
Hm. That seems to violate some significant 1st Amendment rights. Ghavrel - 21/04/2010 07:00:59 PM 690 Views
you forget that the military sign away their rights. *NM* LadyLorraine - 21/04/2010 07:06:52 PM 345 Views
That's why I specified dishonorably discharged. They're no longer in the military. Ghavrel - 21/04/2010 08:43:22 PM 729 Views
*shrug* sorry, I'm a bit cynical over how much the military EVER lets go. LadyLorraine - 21/04/2010 10:13:51 PM 694 Views
Re: I'm in favor of repealing DADT, but this made me briefly reconsider Aisha - 21/04/2010 05:36:48 AM 710 Views
Not in uniform. beckstcw - 21/04/2010 05:38:50 AM 829 Views
oh puhlease Aisha - 21/04/2010 05:43:15 AM 775 Views
It's not a just a piece of clothing, but I guess we'll agree to disagree on that. beckstcw - 21/04/2010 05:45:52 AM 750 Views
I agree with you, Aisha. The Shrike - 21/04/2010 02:15:30 PM 896 Views
and another thing Aisha - 21/04/2010 05:38:53 AM 740 Views
I'm on their side, BUT beckstcw - 21/04/2010 05:44:00 AM 721 Views
Re: I'm on their side, BUT Aisha - 21/04/2010 05:57:50 AM 787 Views
Like I said, we simply disagree *NM* beckstcw - 21/04/2010 06:35:27 AM 365 Views
Thing is though SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 03:31:05 PM 823 Views
Well... it's a military policy. If they were protesting animal cruelty while wearing it, I'd agree beetnemesis - 21/04/2010 06:53:36 AM 921 Views
What beetnemesis said. They're not talking about rights for all gays, but rights for gay soldiers. Tim - 21/04/2010 09:54:09 AM 692 Views
Sounds a bit like they are damned either way snoopcester - 21/04/2010 11:01:36 AM 729 Views
It's peaceful and non-violent. I see nothing wrong with them making their point in this in addition The Shrike - 21/04/2010 02:12:54 PM 685 Views
A soldier protesting a military doctrine has the right. Dannymac - 21/04/2010 02:28:40 PM 793 Views
Re: A soldier protesting a military doctrine has the right. Aisha - 21/04/2010 02:34:34 PM 718 Views
they don't have the right to use the uniform to make that free expression *NM* random thoughts - 21/04/2010 02:39:45 PM 310 Views
Take it up with congress, the regulations are clear, no such right exists, it is expressly banned *NM* Isaac - 21/04/2010 02:46:14 PM 282 Views
The uniform isn't just handed to you after Basic with no strings attached. beckstcw - 21/04/2010 03:04:32 PM 777 Views
The funny thing about it is SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 03:35:51 PM 825 Views
Re: The funny thing about it is Bored - 21/04/2010 10:12:57 PM 693 Views
Actually -the question isn't right SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 04:38:03 PM 592 Views
What's bugging me is that Choi is still in Isaac - 22/04/2010 04:44:50 PM 655 Views
Is he? SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 04:47:37 PM 773 Views
Apparently Isaac - 22/04/2010 05:12:44 PM 829 Views
I think your attitude is likely to be common among active duty and vets alike. Sareitha Sedai - 21/04/2010 02:44:29 PM 712 Views
Actually, darlin', we don't have to convince them. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 03:34:49 PM 700 Views
very true random thoughts - 21/04/2010 03:51:49 PM 734 Views
But these men didn't disrespect anything. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 04:09:20 PM 774 Views
the problem is uniforms are about more than everyone dressing the same random thoughts - 21/04/2010 05:55:31 PM 791 Views
The statistics show that nearly 70% of Americans think gay men and women should serve openly. The Shrike - 21/04/2010 04:14:33 PM 671 Views
And going back to the Truman example, he doesn't even have to show Truman's courage. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 04:17:02 PM 708 Views
Re: And going back to the Truman example, he doesn't even have to show Truman's courage. The Shrike - 21/04/2010 04:25:46 PM 727 Views
That dude is all talk about everything. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 04:27:07 PM 828 Views
Well he wasn't all talk about Health care SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 04:44:39 PM 783 Views
Yes, the main thing he has followed through on is the most disastrous. LiterateDog - 22/04/2010 04:59:45 PM 589 Views
Well, I'm not convinced on that SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 10:02:58 PM 1045 Views
and I think they will get it random thoughts - 21/04/2010 06:05:07 PM 840 Views
Civil disobedience against immoral government action often involves breaking the rules. *NM* LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 03:37:36 PM 339 Views
Wow, The Shrike - 21/04/2010 04:04:42 PM 707 Views
I'm sure female protesters made a lot of people reconsider the suffrage movement. Dreaded Anomaly - 21/04/2010 04:09:37 PM 865 Views
Le sigh. The Shrike - 21/04/2010 04:16:17 PM 658 Views
The bravey of those men is exactly what that 'clothing' stands for. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 04:20:19 PM 786 Views
The above post was sarcasm, in case that wasn't clear... Dreaded Anomaly - 21/04/2010 04:43:44 PM 765 Views
I knew it was sarcasm. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 04:54:11 PM 691 Views
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