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Re: Aragorn is so awesome... lyringlas Send a noteboard - 09/04/2010 08:37:12 PM
Which always made me SO CONFUSED about Arwen. Pllp. He can do so much better.


Arwen is very cool when you think about it. She is 2000 years old.


and she also has to live on after Elessar dies, by herself, watching all of her offspring die as she roams the land. It's sad that even if she had implemented her choice, as a descendant of Elwing and Earandil, and chosen mortality instead of her elven ancestry, 700+ years before she met Elessar, she still would have outlived him. After all, didn't Elrond's brother, Elros, live to be 900+ something in Numenor?

Edit: Correction, I just looked up her life after Aragorn dies, and it appears she gives up her life a year after his death. Sorry for the confusion.
This message last edited by lyringlas on 09/04/2010 at 08:44:06 PM
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The greatest King in Fantasy Dannymac - 09/04/2010 05:18:42 AM 1895 Views
King Arthur. Hands down. Ghavrel - 09/04/2010 06:40:15 AM 1275 Views
I would argue with you. Dannymac - 09/04/2010 06:54:53 AM 1240 Views
That's the point, though. Arthur's humanity is what makes him so admirable. Ghavrel - 09/04/2010 06:59:07 AM 1279 Views
I have to agree with Dannymac LadyLorraine - 09/04/2010 02:04:44 PM 1276 Views
But he's not in a modern fantasy novel. Ghavrel - 09/04/2010 07:37:14 PM 1292 Views
when I read the actual book... LadyLorraine - 10/04/2010 12:08:21 AM 1297 Views
"The actual character"? Which of the countless different ones? *NM* Legolas - 10/04/2010 12:21:00 AM 573 Views
i mean the actual character of Arthur in the actual book. LadyLorraine - 10/04/2010 12:51:44 AM 1372 Views
There isn't an "actual book." Le Morte d'Arthur is a relatively early compilation of legends. *NM* Ghavrel - 10/04/2010 03:09:40 AM 621 Views
Re: i mean the actual character of Arthur in the actual book. Camilla - 10/04/2010 08:17:12 AM 1287 Views
I'm going with the most likely historical version of King Arthur RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/04/2010 06:45:26 PM 1325 Views
My money is still on Aragorn Camilla - 09/04/2010 12:47:43 PM 1387 Views
Aragorn is so awesome... LadyLorraine - 09/04/2010 02:05:42 PM 1254 Views
Arwen's character is just never fleshed out, though. Legolas - 09/04/2010 02:18:30 PM 1219 Views
Re: Arwen's character is just never fleshed out, though. lyringlas - 09/04/2010 02:49:45 PM 1277 Views
Hm nossy - 09/04/2010 03:23:53 PM 1330 Views
Mostly, yes, but there are a few exceptions - Galadriel, Eowyn, and above all Luthien. Legolas - 09/04/2010 03:32:00 PM 1222 Views
Re: Mostly, yes, but there are a few exceptions - Galadriel, Eowyn, and above all Luthien. lyringlas - 09/04/2010 03:45:37 PM 1485 Views
I can't agree about the goddesses. Legolas - 09/04/2010 04:34:15 PM 1325 Views
Re: I can't agree about the goddesses. lyringlas - 09/04/2010 04:55:34 PM 1219 Views
If Tacitus and Graves were accurate imlad - 09/04/2010 05:09:20 PM 1313 Views
Re: If Tacitus and Graves were accurate lyringlas - 09/04/2010 05:26:43 PM 1230 Views
I rather liked her depiction in Rome. Legolas - 09/04/2010 05:34:37 PM 1314 Views
Re: I rather liked her depiction in Rome. lyringlas - 09/04/2010 05:45:06 PM 1381 Views
Re: I rather liked her depiction in Rome. Camilla - 10/04/2010 11:14:26 AM 1385 Views
I don't know if I'd call it bad, per se. Legolas - 10/04/2010 11:37:55 AM 1470 Views
Re: I can't agree about the goddesses. lyringlas - 09/04/2010 05:02:50 PM 1273 Views
Eh, the other Vala don't do much of anything either. Legolas - 09/04/2010 05:31:42 PM 1237 Views
Re: Eh, the other Vala don't do much of anything either. lyringlas - 09/04/2010 05:44:03 PM 1282 Views
Nienna, the Valier of Mercy, was single and a wanderer. She's not the most powerful, but... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/04/2010 06:55:23 PM 1289 Views
Re: Nienna, the Valier of Mercy, was single and a wanderer. She's not the most powerful, but... lyringlas - 09/04/2010 07:04:37 PM 1290 Views
thought of a better example: Arien the Maia of the Sun was single and far more powerful than Tilion RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/04/2010 09:17:34 PM 1524 Views
Re: I can't agree about the goddesses. imlad - 09/04/2010 05:06:49 PM 1388 Views
That was my first assumption too, but evidently not. *NM* Legolas - 09/04/2010 05:22:39 PM 555 Views
I changed it to Livia Augusta Sheesh, you people-- a guy mistypes one time!! *NM* lyringlas - 09/04/2010 05:29:03 PM 619 Views
I call bullshit Camilla - 09/04/2010 08:09:49 PM 1221 Views
Re: I call bullshit lyringlas - 09/04/2010 08:31:16 PM 1242 Views
Re: I call bullshit Camilla - 10/04/2010 08:04:15 AM 1327 Views
I didn't realize it was fashionable to call Tolkien sexist. lyringlas - 10/04/2010 05:12:07 PM 1320 Views
Re: I didn't realize it was fashionable to call Tolkien sexist. Camilla - 12/04/2010 11:00:23 AM 1193 Views
Exactly. Comet Sedai - 13/04/2010 03:08:46 AM 1302 Views
Re: Exactly. Camilla - 13/04/2010 08:54:01 AM 1364 Views
I was going to say something similar. nossy - 09/04/2010 03:21:45 PM 1243 Views
Re: Aragorn is so awesome... Camilla - 09/04/2010 08:00:25 PM 1237 Views
Re: Aragorn is so awesome... lyringlas - 09/04/2010 08:37:12 PM 1247 Views
He's good, but then he just doesn't have to face so many things. Legolas - 09/04/2010 02:22:04 PM 1524 Views
Doesn't have to face many things? Camilla - 09/04/2010 07:59:27 PM 1293 Views
As in, there are many important aspects of being king he doesn't have to face. Legolas - 09/04/2010 08:07:16 PM 1270 Views
well technically speaking he WAS the king when he did all those things. LadyLorraine - 10/04/2010 12:15:26 AM 1282 Views
Re: Doesn't have to face many things? lyringlas - 09/04/2010 08:38:51 PM 1131 Views
Re: Doesn't have to face many things? Camilla - 10/04/2010 08:24:33 AM 1227 Views
Re: Doesn't have to face many things? lyringlas - 10/04/2010 05:08:42 PM 1391 Views
Re: Doesn't have to face many things? Camilla - 12/04/2010 10:55:12 AM 1189 Views
He really wasn't a king in majority of the story though random thoughts - 12/04/2010 05:54:23 PM 1187 Views
I'm sure there are many, but one coming to mind is Prince Josua from Memory, Sorrow and Thorn Legolas - 09/04/2010 02:23:57 PM 1241 Views
Oh yeah I liked him a lot *NM* ironclad - 09/04/2010 04:09:59 PM 590 Views
Josua Lackhand is a great fantasy King! imlad - 09/04/2010 05:14:39 PM 1303 Views
Arutha was never King. *NM* Myrdhyn - 09/04/2010 07:18:30 PM 559 Views
I'm going to go with a tie... Myrdhyn - 09/04/2010 04:22:42 PM 1259 Views
Rohan was a whiny hypocritical bitch who failed at the only real test of rulership he ever faced. Cannoli - 10/04/2010 02:51:34 AM 1299 Views
That actually slipped my mind. I can't believe that. Myrdhyn - 16/04/2010 04:44:46 PM 1335 Views
Joffrey and the Stag! *NM* Kotagg - 09/04/2010 09:53:56 PM 562 Views
ROFL *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/04/2010 11:39:36 PM 540 Views
Artur Hawkwing Cannoli - 10/04/2010 03:34:02 AM 1399 Views
Alexander the Great? *NM* Ghavrel - 10/04/2010 05:08:25 AM 588 Views
AH conquered more, did better, & was not a huge d-bag. Alex would have commissioned that big statue *NM* Cannoli - 12/04/2010 03:00:39 PM 569 Views
And both managed to have their so-called "empires" crumble within a year of their death. *NM* Ghavrel - 12/04/2010 06:12:20 PM 575 Views
Which just reinforces how awesome AH was - no one else could do what he did Cannoli - 13/04/2010 11:50:54 AM 1334 Views
??? Sidious - 10/04/2010 10:30:13 AM 1649 Views
Ta'veren is not a power, it is an accomodation with what the Pattern demands of certain people Cannoli - 12/04/2010 02:56:57 PM 1230 Views
Simba *NM* BlackAdder - 10/04/2010 08:40:38 AM 611 Views
Manwe Sidious - 10/04/2010 10:31:54 AM 1552 Views
Bah. He's hardly a character. *NM* AgentOrange - 12/04/2010 01:07:29 AM 690 Views
Arutha, the Prince of Krondor AgentOrange - 12/04/2010 01:06:14 AM 1303 Views
Westley Comet Sedai - 13/04/2010 02:59:36 AM 1239 Views
Leto Atreides II random thoughts - 13/04/2010 05:07:29 AM 1195 Views
I'll agree with that! *NM* imlad - 13/04/2010 11:33:10 AM 562 Views
What's the name of the Lemur-thing that's the King in "the penguins of madagascar"? He gets my vote! *NM* Mjolner - 14/04/2010 04:46:42 AM 622 Views
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